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Insights Into the Future of the Laptop 142

An anonymous reader writes "ThinkPad founder Arimasa Naitoh sat down for a chat with CNET.com.au about the future of the laptop. The article includes a few concept design images, as well as details on why Lenovo believes that fuel-cell technology is poor and that Origami will never succeed as a primary device." From the article: "Although Lenovo has traditionally targeted the business crowd, it recently released the consumer-targeted Lenovo 3000 series, as 'many people want to have a ThinkPad that is not black'. Naitoh shuns the use of aluminium in laptop manufacturing, calling it 'weak', instead praising titanium (used in the construction of the 3000) for its light-weight and scratch-resistant properties. Naitoh also showed off a number of ThinkPad concept designs with innovations such as raising displays and removable keyboards. He didn't give any word on whether these would be incorporated into official ThinkPad models, but we've snagged some pictures for you anyway."
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Insights Into the Future of the Laptop

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  • by Sam Haine '95 ( 918696 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @06:41AM (#15815998)
    If somebody made an ARM powered laptop with solid state storage then I'd be very happy. No moving parts, silent, incredible battery life.
  • What I want... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pr0nbot ( 313417 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @06:50AM (#15816026)
    What I want is something small that I can plug a keyboard and monitor into for desktop use but also use on the move. Not a laptop - much smaller.

    The closest I've seen is this thing:

        http://www.dualcor.com/ [dualcor.com]

    But it looks like it's not aimed at the general market, and has a corresponding "business class" price tag.

  • by The Mutant ( 167716 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @07:08AM (#15816066) Homepage
    "...praising titanium (used in the construction of the 3000) for its light-weight and scratch-resistant properties..."

    So what did Apple get wrong then? My TiBook was looking pretty ragged after two years of use. By contrast, my 15" Aluminum G4 PowerBook doesn't have a scratch on it....

  • by steve_l ( 109732 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @07:44AM (#15816166) Homepage
    My Compaq nc6000 (disclaimer, I work for hp) has
    1. 1GB ram
    2. 1.8GHZ single core.
    3. 6+ hours battery life when I pull out the DVD drive and stick in the extension pack. Three hours otherwise.
    4. The more ram you have, the worse the resume from hibernate, and there is too much corporate security junk (firewall, VPN, Symantec) to take up memory and battery life. The extra battery pack is very good for conferences, as I dont need to sit glued to power cords all day long.

      The problem with long-life laptops is most people prefer performance over battery life. And with reason -most people don't go that far without a recharge. The most definitive data gathering on this topic was actually an experiment I did in 1999, logging how different people used a laptop for six months, in a paper called "the secret life of laptops" [hp.com]

      The conclusion we came to then was that power at home and work was unimportant, compared to the wide variation in network state. Getting consistent networking mattered much more to people.

      Now that we have near-universal, WLAN, maybe being unwired matters more. I should rerun the experiment, but first I need to finish the analysis of my ongoing experiment, that of capturing the bluetooth ID of every discoverable mobile phone that goes past my house. Embrace experimental computer science!

  • Screens in sunlight (Score:5, Interesting)

    by teh kurisu ( 701097 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @07:51AM (#15816188) Homepage
    It would be nice if laptops used displays that could be read in sunlight. I'm working at home at the moment, it's a beautiful day outside, I have a laptop and a wireless network... the only reason I'm not working outside is because I wouldn't be able to see the screen.
  • by CFD339 ( 795926 ) <.moc.htroneht. .ta. .pwerdna.> on Monday July 31, 2006 @07:52AM (#15816193) Homepage Journal
    The wide aspect screens offer two key benfits. One of course is that movies are now shownin that aspect. The other turns out to be space. A short wide screen opens on an airplane much better than a taller one. The laptop requires significantly less room between you and the guy ahead leaning back so far you could do dental work on him.
  • by vhogemann ( 797994 ) <`victor' `at' `hogemann.com'> on Monday July 31, 2006 @07:57AM (#15816209) Homepage
    Well,

    I was recently given an old Psion Revo, and I can tell you that it's quite capable of surfing the web, since you can use Opera 5 on it. Of course it has some glitches, but for reading Slashdot and searching something on Google it's ok.

    IMHO, EPOC is a much more capable OS than PalmOS or WinCE. While not rock solid, it's pretty stable and has plenty of usefull features and applications. For those who may not know, EPOC is now called Symbian... and boy, I wish Nokia offered a Symbian-enabled version of the i770!
  • by laffer1 ( 701823 ) <luke&foolishgames,com> on Monday July 31, 2006 @08:02AM (#15816228) Homepage Journal
    At first I thought your idea was silly and then I realized you are absolutely right. I put the dock on the left side on my iBook with autohide so that i don't trigger it but gain the added space when surfing.

    I wish laptop vendors would figure out a few things.

    1. vertical space is more important than ever. Digital paper! Let me see a webpage. I still don't feel like going beyond 1024 x 768 when designing a page. I looked at my sites on my new cell phone the other day and realized how bad that is.

    2. Not everyone wants a 17 inch display. Yes many of you exist, but there are a few of us that like 12 inch displays! I like a small laptop which is portable over a big bulky thing. I'm a student and I have books to carry too! My wife also prefers 12 inch displays. This means don't just offer a 12 inch, but a fast 12 inch as well. I don't consider a 17 inch MacBook Pro better than a 13 inch MacBook in terms of the screen. I want the faster cpus but a small screen! It may even help with battery life. What happened to the idea that that sale of products would be completely custom? Dell does it to some degree. Apple get with it.

    3. Battery life is more important than anything else. If the battery dies, the computer is useless. I need to get through a 2 hour lecture while taking notes! Business people go on site, have meetings all day, etc. IT people might need to haul their laptop around server rooms, meetings, lunch, etc. Don't people at HP, IBM, and apple use laptops at work? Figure it out people!

    Finally, I'd like to say that it appears video cards are the largest culpret now. Every review i've read that includes power consumption makes comments about the heat and power requirements of ati/nvidia hardware. I'd like to see ATI (amd) and nvidia go through the intel fast, low power, low heat transition. I mean they want us to run two of these things concurrently now. Could we at least get something energy efficient. The progress intel has made is useless if we put in a new ATI card.
  • by youngerpants ( 255314 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @08:25AM (#15816318)
    Kinda off topic, but... in the last couple of years I bought myself a new watch. I spent a bit more than I wanted to, but I really wanted a Breitling Aerospace. Specifically the one made from Titanium & Gold.



    With a christmas bonus in my pocket, I walked into Sefridges jewellery department, tried on the watch I wanted (still wearing it) as the salesmans pitch started;


    Salesman: Now this watch is made from titanium, are you aware of the properties of titanium


    Me: Yes, very light and very strong, this its why its used in the aerospace industries


    Salesman: Thats correct, and its also a self healing metal


    Me: Excuse me?


    Salesman: thats correct, if you scratch titanium, it will heal the scratch like your body will with a scar


    Me:


    Salesman: I know, amazing stuff


    Me: sooooo, you wouldnt mind if I took a serrated knife to this breitling then


    Salesman:


    Me: I think someones been telling lies to you, but I am going to buy this watch anyway.



    Not a great story, but some people areally are gullable.

  • Re:SHOCKER! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by tambo ( 310170 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @09:29AM (#15816684)
    origami is mostly software, MS is relying on partners such as lenovo to build them. MS and lenovo are not competitors per se.

    Not really.

    The UMPC (formerly known as Origami) is a hardware/software specification set by Microsoft for this new class of devices. The software specification contains exactly one requirement: Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005.

    The hardware, on the other hand, has several requirements:

    • Screen: Approximately 7" LCD, with a resolution of at least 800x480
    • Weight: Approximately 1kg (2lb)
    • Integrated touch screen
    • Integrated 802.11b
    • Integrated Bluetooth
    That's it - anything with those specifications can be considered (and labeled) a UMPC.

    Now here's the important question: Who would ever consider a machine with those specifications their primary device? The minimum specification doesn't include any kind of drive, speakers, or even a keyboard. As a standalone device, the UMPC is really cripped - without a drive, how do you load software?

    But that's the point. Please, please repeat after me: THE UMPC IS NOT MEANT TO BE A PRIMARY OR STANDALONE PC. That is not its intended niche. It is a companion PC - a souped-up version of a PDA that runs all of the software you'd expect, and with a screen large enough to do actual work. (The tiny screen was the primary factor that limited the PDA to "address-book" status.)

    It irritates me to see so many tech rags criticizing the UMPC as underpowered for primary computer use. They're just not understanding its purpose. I'm an ardent supporter of the platform (and I have no attachment to Microsoft, any UMPC manufacturer, the project, etc.) - I think it will be an excellent new device, with novel computing applications.

    - David Stein

  • by neo ( 4625 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @10:05AM (#15816890)
    The main thing missing from the Laptop market is Modularity. He addresses this slightly by showing a model that has a detachable keyboard. What is really needed are inter-operable components that can be mixed and matched to fit both budget and requirements. For example, allowing users to choose screen size from several different screens, and let them all attach to the same connector on the motherboard. Allow different motherboard configurations. Allow for different sized keyboards, some with or without number pads, and some with or withough touch pads.

    This is clearly the next step, but Laptop creators aren't getting the hint that desktop creators learned a long time ago. Don't put it all in one machine unless that's the low end model. Let us choose which pieces we want for our laptop and have them work together seamlessly.

    Personally I want:

    Full sized keyboard
    15 inch screen
    No touchpad
    No battery
    Wireless mouse
    2-3 GHZ processor
    3 gigs RAM
    Detachable 10 gig drives

    What do you want in your laptop?
  • by Prof.Phreak ( 584152 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @10:56AM (#15817241) Homepage
    What's so damn great about a large touch screen, when you could have a keyboard to go with it and it would be the perfect device for surfing, writign and communicating?!

    Think of the millions of computers users who cannot type (well, with more than 1 finger at a time).

    For a time, I was seriously considering getting a portable keyboard for my PDA---but nearly all of them are crappily small, one might as well just peck with that pointer thingie than type with 1 finger on them small keyboards.

    Why can't a PDA come with -standard- keyboard/mouse interfaces? (ie: like a PDA with 5 USB ports to plugin whatever, as well as a VGA out port---in case you need to plug it into a monitor, or projector).
  • Re:RetroPad (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Cederic ( 9623 ) on Monday July 31, 2006 @11:44AM (#15817575) Journal

    I want that, but I also don't want to carry a separate computing device and mobile phone.

    So I bought a Nokia E70. I need to upgrade the mini-SD card to a decent capacity, and I need to find/write a decent shell for it, but I can already use Putty over wifi and it's quite fantastic.

    The keyboard isn't touch-type, but it is two-finger-touch-type, which is adequate, and I don't even notice the device in my pocket.

    Anything larger would need specifically carrying - I'd need a bag or a coat (with large pocket) or spare hand. This doesn't.

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