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Why gay marriage is a study in the worst of conformity- posted especially for a certain troll of these parts.
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Why Libertarians should be against gay marriage
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EXACTLY! If it isn't for financial reasons, there is nothing the government can add, and the only reason the government can add financial benefits for the extreme elites is because it already regulates the lives of the extreme elites. All marriage brings to your average labor or consumer class person is shared work benefits and thus one more way your boss can oppress you (oh, and the lawyer bills with the eventual divorce- gay divorce WILL happen).
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Why is marriage any of the government's business.
Because property is transferred via marriage, that is the original intention of it. It is a merger, and the government serves to protect property rights and resolve disputes as peacefully as possible.
Do married people have more or less legal rights than unmarried people that wish to share their lives but are not legally married?
Yes. That is why equality under the law is important in this matter.
What can married people do that unmarried people can not?
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It is a merger, and the government serves to protect property rights and resolve disputes as peacefully as possible.
But that requires conformity to the government's vision.
None of these should be rights, and the government should have NO say in what marriage is.
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Well, as long as we are to have a government, and while it does have this authority over who can sign a marriage contract and distributes related benefits, I will insist that it treats everybody equally until all such legislation is off the books. It's not complicated.
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It's rank conformism to an ideal, and thus is against your ideal of anti-conformism.
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No, the ideal is the abandonment of man's authority over man. Forced conformity is your bag. Okay, cool. Then let's make sure everybody is treated the same, under the same rules. I was simply being a bit more pragmatic in a world where people who see equality as a threat to their privileged status and lifestyle want to take us back to the dark ages.
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"No, the ideal is the abandonment of man's authority over man."
Which is still conformity to an ideal.
"Then let's make sure everybody is treated the same, under the same rules."
That's an ideal I can get behind, but you can't- because that would be CONFORMITY.
" I was simply being a bit more pragmatic in a world where people who see equality as a threat to their privileged status and lifestyle want to take us back to the dark ages."
The Dark ages weren't so bad, but then again, as a post modernist, you can't po
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:-) I guess some things are just beyond your willingness to comprehend. Some other time perhaps...
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I'm not the one who is anti-conformist.
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Please find one instance in the last 25 years where someone hasn't been allowed to visit a friend in the Hospital for any reason other than a medical one (for example, the patient has flesh eating bacteria and is highly contagious).
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Oh, I don't know... There was a real famous incident way back in 2007.. Betcha there's a whole bunch of other times it happens without making the papers, so, you got your plausible deniability there to make you feel all better and stuff.
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You mean 1997.
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No, I think I mean 2007 [wikipedia.org], I'm pretty sure, though in these topsy-turvy times who can tell, eh? Maybe I should get a new pair of glasses.
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ICU is medical reason. A heterosexual can't visit with children there half the time, and if you fail to fill out the correct HIPPA form, the hospital can't even acknowledge that you exist at all.
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Same as the pseudo-progressive fight for gays in the military.
I got SCREAMED at on the street, by a dreadlocked, nose-ringed petition canvasser a year or so back. She asked "Will you sign my petition to allow gays in the military?" To which I responded:
"Absolutely not. I don't believe that anybody should be in the military, and that support of supplying personnel to a so-called "peace time" military is a form of soft-fascist statism. Why do gays need the same opportunity to kill foreign babies for Gener
War is the evil that men do (Score:1)
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There's a commitment to peace left?
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The Usefulness of Expanding Basic Human Rights? (Score:2)
It allows post-Imperial states additional pretext to launch attacks, while subverting dissent for these actions at home.
Remember how the US Department of State covered Afghanistan with clusterbombs and drone strikes - to "protect women's rights to vote and attend school"?
"Russia and Iran must be punished for their repression of homosexuals! It's EXACTLY like the holocaust!" Trust me - this is the shit you will be fed by every schill in the business, from David Brooks to Jonah Goldberg.
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Yep, this. I also suspect it's bread and circuses to limit the population of the underclass, just like contraception and abortion.
I'm lost (Score:2)
Oh wait, I finished the article and followed some of his links.
Meh, he's no Alex Jones.
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It's all about conformity, and even fustakrakich above missed my point that being for gay marriage, is being conformist to an irrational ideal of equality.
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Well, like I quoted to smitty. The problem with appealing to the police is the police. So I do know that coercive authority is the true evil. But there's always the part of fighting fire with fire. I believe you call it the "just war", not that I actually agree which such, but I can only say, *splashback's a bitch, ain't it?*
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The trouble comes in that even drug abuse is conformity. All that changes is who the coercive authority is, never the coercion itself.
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Now, what's the irrational part?
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Or drugs. Or a million other things that Hollywood wants to force on society.