smittyoneeach's Journal: Ben Carson Accidentally Trolls The Degenerates

The funniest thing about the Vast Carson Expose is watching the slack-jawed droolers touch themselves while calling Carson a 'liar'. It seems Benny noted someone making a verbal offer to him in his book, and the fact that he never actually carried through with an application to go to Hudson High counts as 'dihonest'.
Using this illogic, if one hears an automobile advertisement on television, yet does not make a purchase, one has lied about buying a car.
Remember: these are the rodeo clowns desirous of managing your health care. Because #SmarterThanYou

West Point Does Not Make "Verbal Offers"

[PopeRatzo]

They're sticklers about only making offers of appointments or scholarship by letter, carefully documented.

I've got one I can show you, if you'd like.

Look, I did the same thing as Westmoreland

[smittyoneeach]

As a Navy division officer on a ship, I encouraged qualified young people to apply.
You're correct that, after the full appointment and selection process is complete, there is a formal letter sent.
The question here is what substantive news the Codpiece Media Overlords are attempting to delay.

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[fustakrakich]

Psst, hey buddy, wanna buy a scholarship? Harvard, Yale, West Point, you name it...

So many variations on the story. Last I heard, Gen. Westmoreland made the offer at a Denny's.

Talk about trivial pursuit! I think it's freaky this guy gets any votes at all. He should be on Home shopping Network. Very bad reflection, the entire lineup...

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[smittyoneeach]

Oh, please! Service academy appointments are bought via Congress. I did, however, earn mine by just filling out a stack of paper.

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[fustakrakich]

You don't need to get so excited... Though it is fun to watch

But in Carson's 1996 memoir "Gifted Hands," he appears to tell a different story: that the young Carson, a 17-year-old top ROTC officer from Detroit, had dined with Gen. William Westmoreland, who was a fresh out of his command in Vietnam, in 1969. He said he was immediately offered a full scholarship by West Point. [foxnews.com] He has said in the retelling of the story that that he turned down the supposed offer because he wanted to be a doctor.

This from FOX,

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[smittyoneeach]

That's a pretty good ad.

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[BarbaraHudson]

Unfortunately, Carson's story [dailynewsbin.com] has a lot more [cnn.com] holes in it .

Looks like he has Brian Williams Syndrome [vanityfair.com].

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[fustakrakich]

It just doesn't matter. It wouldn't matter if he were Norman Bates' long lost twin brother. He has his followers, and that won't change for anything.

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[smittyoneeach]

I mean, I get that (a) Carson has been targeted and must be destroyed, and (b) smart people can find shoddily-worded aspects in his 25-year old bio, but (c) the utter hilarity of going over him with a fine tooth comb and a magnet when no one has ever sighted #OccupyResoluteDesk's college transcripts is a source of wonder to, well, any adults following politics.
At least Carson never claimed to have gotten over Macho Grande [twitter.com].

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[BarbaraHudson]

The guy is making all sorts of claims that are nutzo - like the pyramids were made by Joseph to store grain. The US SHOULD elect him - since the idea of him having the finger on the proverbial button would make unilateral nuclear disarmament be the reasonable choice for even hawks.

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[smittyoneeach]

So, his skill as a neurosurgeon is meaningless?

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[BarbaraHudson]

Being a neurosurgeon has NOTHING to do with being capable of running a country. The best guess I've seen so far is that he's a high-functioning schizophrenic who believes his own publicity. But please, by all means vote him in. We'll be glad to have a few states secede to Canada. Or take your political refugees, like we did during Vietnam.

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[smittyoneeach]

"a high-functioning schizophrenic". Really.

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[BarbaraHudson]

He's been saying that the pyramids were built by Joseph to store grain for almost 20 years now. That they're hollow and with enough interior space to store 7 years worth of grain to feed everyone. And that, if elected, he won't need Secret Service protection because God will protect him. He's off in his own reality in many ways.

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[smittyoneeach]

Carson has also said that, if he likes his doctor, he can keep his doctor. What further proof of cuckoo-for-cocoa-puffery do we need?

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[fustakrakich]

Damn! Your little game here is getting more intense. You refuse to respond directly to anything that jeopardizes your narrative.

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[smittyoneeach]

Well, I certainly don't feel any need to explain any of Carson's personal beliefs. If you have a specific, general Christian doctrine question, I'm of use. I also know a bit about the service academy admission process that is actually topical for this JE.
For attempts to drag me into other topics, I feel completely comfortable just doing some gags. And yes, your whining is amusing.

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[fustakrakich]

It's nothing so complicated. Your defensive charade only proves your favoritism.

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[smittyoneeach]

"Defensive charade" how, exactly?

holy smokes that was precious

[Bill Dog]

Editor’s note: POLITICO stands by its reporting on this story, which has been updated to reflect Ben Carson’s on the record response.

"We stand by what we wrote, which is why we changed it."

The original story and headline said that Carson’s campaign had admitted he "fabricated" a "full scholarship" from West Point, but now Carson denies that his campaign’s statement constituted such an admission, and the story and headline were changed to reflect that.

Yep, that's definitely sticking to one's guns.

And today in response to POLITICO he acknowledged for the first time that was not the case. Carson never explicitly wrote that he had applied for admission to West Point, although that was the clear implication of his claim to have received an offer of a "full scholarship," a point that POLITICO’s initial report should have made clear.

"We arrived at C, which we've stuck to by retracting it, by assuming that A leads to B, an assumption we neglected to mention in our piece."

Questions:

1) Do you really have to apply first to a college to be offered a scholarship? I assumed that for something like a sports scholarship, the college would in a sense apply to you. And some scholarships aren't even offered by the institution, but by a third par

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[smittyoneeach]

Political speech tends toward sloppiness after the 1,000th repetition or so. Irrespective of party.

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[Bill Dog]

My understanding is he's been saying those things in books he's written, long before he ran for office.

And political speech should be held to an even higher standard. Carson Brian Williamsed himself.

p.s. Don't take this as my being anti-Carson. I'm thrilled he, as a non-politician, has risen to become a front-runner. I wish Carly were up there too.

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[smittyoneeach]

The point is so silly as to leave one embarrassed for having to discuss it.
Which is the motive, I think.