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Interbase Backdoor, Secret for Six Years, Revealed in Source
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michael
on Thu Jan 11, 2001 08:20 AM
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Diesel Dave writes "CERT Advisory CA-2001-01 announced today that the Interbase server database contains a compiled-in back door account. The thing is, it was not the result of a malicious code infection, but a direct addition by the original Borland/Inprise authors done before the program was released as open source." The backdoor was installed sometime between 1992 and 1994, and has been included in every version of Interbase during that time.
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Re:Why the surprise? (Score:3)
At least with opensource, things like this get found. Obviously Borland's security audit didn't find it when they originally released this as a commercial product! If it wasn't for opensource, this would probably still be being silently exploited by the original programmers and the few people they told.
Re:Why the surprise? (Score:3)
Re:Why the surprise? (Score:5)
OpenBSD has been undergoing a security aduit for years. A couple months ago they were able to claim there had been no known root hacks in the current release for 3 years. (That is they were able to fix root hacks before they were discovered for the last 3 years). Well sometime this summer someone discovered a root hack in the released system, despite all those audits. (To be fair, they had fixed that hole in the unreleased code stream, nobody realized it was exploitable at the time though so there was no hurry to release it early).
Audits are good, but they take time. OpenBSD has proven they take a lot of time. There is no open source project with as much work in security auditing as openBSD. (Probably no closed source project either). No open source project cares are much, yet they can't always get it right despite 5 years of work. To criticie any other project for not discovereing all secuirity holes is a mistake. Even if the openBSD audit team had decided to work on this with as much effort as went into openBSD there is no reason to belive they would have discovered this sooner.
root=backdoor? (was Re:Open source = no backdoor) (Score:3)
In the case of root, the existence of the backdoor is well known, but the details (password) are nominally only known by a few people. On some systems, the 'root' name is changed to something else (e.g. toor) for obscurity reasons.
In the case of Inprise, the existence and details of the backdoor were known to external persons (developers) but unknown by the actual user and the details are unchangable without source code. (note: it looks like a quick fix here would be to edit the backdoor details in the source and recompile). This was entirely 'security by obscurity' and, now that the cat is out of the bag, almost every user of the software is at risk.
Point to be made here: Opening the source code simply made it much easier to find the backdoor. Overall, I think that this is a good thing. There may be some hackers out there who knew of this backdoor for many years. Now we have the knowledge and impetus to clean it up.
I don't think that this was a malicious backdoor. The design of the software seemed to require it (oops!). The big mistake is that nobody who had access questioned it's existence. The lesson to be learned is that people who have access to source code and see this sort of stuff should make waves to open up the process.
The best gemeric solution is to remove the need for internal 'backdoors' in code. That being infeasible, the software should be changed so that the details of the backdoor are editable by the end-user (or randomized on every start of the software). Obviously, the user has to be made aware of the need to edit this data. That solution, of course, has its own security implications (exercise for the reader).
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Re:Open source = no backdoor (Score:3)
I have two machines linked together by an crossover ethernet cable. Can you hack into that network? I'd be impressed if you could
A fairly simple manner of splitting the cable and installing my own junction, or attaching my laptop to one of your machines via a serial port
Anyway, as soon as I saw your comment, I got into your master server (which I noticed connected to the Internet on 127.0.0.1 hah!!), and have told the police about your massive pr0n and war3z collection! You should now notice your hard disk is thrashing as my rm -r * takes affect suX0r!
Whoops! Hangon? Why is MY disk thrashing
Re:Hits on port 3050/tcp already on the increase (Score:3)
Which is why I like
the AC
Here's a buffer overflow (Score:5)
SCHAR home_directory[256];
...
#ifdef UNIX
/* If a Unix system, get home directory from environment */
startup_file = getenv("HOME");
if (startup_file == NULL)
{
startup_file = ".qli_startup";
}
else
{
strcpy(home_directory, startup_file);
strcat(home_directory, "/.qli_startup");
startup_file = home_directory;
}
#endif
That's called a "buffer overflow" and I doubt it is the only one. Just a short grep over the files gives an idea here. 642 strcpy's, 139 strcat and 945 sprintf's. The first thing to do is replace those with safe alternatives (strncpy, strncat, snprintf) and then the fun begins. And I just know that next week I'm gunna be asked to install an Interbase server
Are there any *good* choices for Interbase users? (Score:3)
Anybody running a pre-open-source Interbase seems to have only really unpleasant choices:
I'm glad I'm not in that position.
Re:https?? (Score:3)
-russ
Re:Dogma (Score:3)
Correction: how many years it took anyone to discover and announce this. Just because it was only now announced doesn't mean someone didn't know about it two years ago and kept quiet about it.
Re:Why the surprise? (Score:3)
So even he didn't think this would ever happen and the bug in ftpd was a direct result of this. No one knew it was there because no-one knew that such a bug even existed (and if it did it was most probably not possible to exploit). That is definitely not the case here. This is an obvious flaw in security written by a programmer who obviously never thought the code would be open sourced. It should have been one of those things that you picked up on the first day and said "this is bad, you never should have done this."
Re:Here's a buffer overflow (Score:4)
Add into this that this will be a HUGE source base with many many lines of code, that open source contributors generally want to produce things and not be reading over other peoples code and that reading other peoples code (and that usually includes the "you" from >6 months ago) sucks sucks sucks
But those criticisms aside, it does indicate that open source probably does need to consider security more. Especially when inheriting code from closed source projects but just as importantly for exisitng open source projects. It seems that openBSD is doing a good job of auditing their code. While I wouldn't even think of saying that open source projects *must* do x or y, perhaps a central security auditing helping project which ranks other projects on their security and offers suggestions on common security errors and auditing methodology. Projects could apply these techniques or not as they desired but the end user could check the security status by going to the security site. Interbase would have been ranked red_unsecure_not-yet-audited, sendmail could be blue_unsecure_script-kiddie-heaven etc.
My second comment is more a query. Are there header files available which make sure that strcpy and friends can't be used? It would go a way to helping if you could use these headers and WARNING:STRCPY USED. COMPILE ABORTED would pop up as appropriate. It wouldn't be a final fix but it would help and might get programmers out of the habit of using these awful functions in the first place.
Finally, with the front page story yesterday being about OOP, this is clearly the kind of thing where OOP helps. A good string class will take you a long way. Also, OOP is more easy to read and understand in small chunks so it's easier to audit (and easier to get people to audit)
Rich
Re:Why the surprise? (Score:5)
The backdoor was introduced in the commercial version of the software. It's only now that it is open source that we could even see the error. The people paying for the 'presumably...high-quality app' you extoll the virtue of were receiving the backdoor-enabled product. Rather than being a failure of open-source software, I'd say this one was a sucess. I only wonder what other kind of 'crap' exists in all those apps whose sources are closed.
Um, how do you know it worked? (Score:3)
Re:Are there any *good* choices for Interbase user (Score:4)
Have a closer look ;-)
The code is intialised to the variables in the .h file, and when the server starts up it repaces them with random data using chars with ascii values 1-255
So every time the server starts up you get a different random password.
I've posted somewhere else, a bit about how this was done just prior to christmas, to fix the problem, and not introduce any unknowns.
A more perminant fix will be applied, we found it when we were doing a review of the security
There are problems, but in Firebird we have several people who do crypto/PKI things for their day job and we were doing a security review, that in part explains how we've found these. It also places us in a good position to fix these things. As far as Borland are concerned, they seem to be ignoring us,
They wouldn't tell Jim they were working on a patch for prior versions of InterBase, so he felt compelled to write his own.
But for now it's a good time to keep your Firebird/InterBase server locked behind a firewall
Cheers
Mark O'Donohue
--
Your database needs YOU!
http://firebird.sourceforge.net
Re:Open source = no backdoor (Score:3)
Is there a good use for back doors?
I can't think of one. The CERT advisory makes it sound like this particular one is there because the design of the system requires it:
So, at least it doesn't seem to be a Borland/Inprise employee being sneaky. But still, leaving such a gaping hole in the software, even by design, it stupid. Especially considering the password for said account is hard coded! I can't imagine that idea passing the giggle test for any security expert.
Recent MS break in? (Score:3)
Since the source was released, it's obvious that the developers that added the backdoor have already left borland, since it wasn't removed, and the other developers haven't noticed that there is a backdoor.
So, If it can go undetected even if the whole world has access to the source. So might this indicate that there is a very certain possibility that the crackers who broke into MS DID backdoor the source?
Extra info (Score:3)
BTW, it seems that, as usual, they were not very concerned.
Re:More juice ... I like this part (Score:5)
For security reasons, the patch is available only as a binary and you will be required to register for this download.
Nice, eh?
M.
what did you expect? (Score:3)
Loosing this kind of control is one among other things that make industry afraid of going open...
Other Borland Products (Score:4)
Has something like that ever happened before?
Re:Open source = no backdoor (Score:3)
Re:Backdoors vs. default passwords (Score:4)
Of course, any computer is only as secure as its administrator.
Re:Hits on port 3050/tcp already on the increase (Score:5)
Correction... Note that the blurb above says "...a direct addition by the original Borland/Inprise authors done before the program was released as open source." This wasn't done after the Open Source release.
Furthermore, Interbase has only been under an Open ource license for less than a year. Inprise was considering the move around last December [slashdot.org], and was finally (although missing parts and amidst great controversy which eventually forked the code [sourceforge.net]) released under an Open Source license around July 2000 [slashdot.org]
So, the thing is from what I can see, this is an instance where an Open Source release allowed a security hole, hidden for years as closed source, to be found finally. Which is, of course, the complete opposite of what you said.
Why the surprise? (Score:5)
If anyone truly believes that things like this should be found faster, they should try reading through this amount of code. When their heads stop spinning they will probably have a change of heart.
This is serious fuel for open source (Score:3)
What most guys don't realise is that many many closed-source software that currently run on many computers contains such backdoors, generally implanted to ease remote maintenance (and cut down costs). I, for one, would be _very_ surprised if there was no such backdoor in the various incantations of proprietary operating systems.
Cheers,
--fred
One year since source release.. (Score:4)
You can download the surce Here [sourceforge.net]
According to the page it was registered at Source Forge on 2000-Jan-28 15:37
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Why pay for drugs when you can get Linux for free ?
Re:Hits on port 3050/tcp already on the increase (Score:5)
Even more... If you read the saga of the backdoor here [interbase2000.com], it seems that not only was the backdoor known about by Inprise R & D engineers-- but that when the original creators of Interbase (no longer a part of Inprise, but now part of the Firebird development fork) brought the security breach to their attention engineers at Inprise were forbidden to speak to them .
And furthermore, as they realized that not only was this in the Open Source release, this backdoor was also in the last 3 closed source versions of the database. So they fixed the Firebird source, but also-- even with the company itself forbidding its own engineers to contact these people-- they wrote a binary patch program to disable the backdoor on previous versions.
Imagine that. Even while being slapped in the face, these guys fixed their product for them.
Re:what did you expect? (Score:3)
Not surprised that it took time to be found (Score:5)
1. Interbase wasn't officially released under an open source license until last summer. I at least, did not spend any serious time with it until the license was correct.
2. The open source interbase got off to a very slow start. Here's why:
- Borland didn't release all the tools required to build and test interbase code.
- Many of the original developers had left Borland, meaning that there was a shortage of mentors for new developers.
- Borland yanked startup funding at the last minute from the group that was going to take over the management of the code base, causing many to question interbase's future.
- Documentation of the code base is still unfinished.
- The codebase is large and complex.
Independent interbase builds (firebird on sourceforge) didn't start happening until very recently. In my mind they found this bug faster than I would have expected.
-OT
Dogma (Score:5)
It would take a hacker a significant amount of time to discover a properly hidden and hardcoded backdoor in a closed source product. Notice how many years it took ANYONE to discover this. That is "difficult", or rather time consuming for the hacker. You might say it's easy to reproduce, but that's true for literally hundreds of Open Source security flaws. Once a hacker discovers a means and releases an exploit, the work is done. It doesn't matter to the hax0r, aka script kiddy, if exploit.c sends "LET ME IN BACKDOOR" or a bunch of machine code to the target host. Furthermore, it's quite easy to test for the existence (or at least the probable existence) of a security flaw via improper bounds checking. In other words, you just send a bunch of different programs extra long strings on various inputs until something crashes, then you simply do the work to make the exploit happen. Compare this with trying to find a well hidden backdoor in a closed source product, you either try to reverse engineer the binary or you can try brute force. In either case, it's much harder to detect.
So the question remains, easier for whom and how is that relevant? It's really not terribly relevant if you ask me. The question is how secure is YOUR product at the end of the day in YOUR environment for YOUR needs. If you start overgeneralizing by saying "Open Source is secure, Closed Source is not" then you're making a fundamental mistake. Rhetoric and dogma are not conducive to practical security.
Re:Open source = no backdoor (Score:3)
Re:Are there any *good* choices for Interbase user (Score:4)
char *PWD_ls_user()
{
if (strcmp(ls_user,"Firebird ")==0)
{
mk_pwd(ls_user);
}
return ls_user;
}
char *PWD_ls_pw()
{
if (strcmp(ls_pw,"Phoenix")==0)
{
mk_pwd(ls_pw);
}
return ls_pw;
}
Perhaps you mean it doesn't use the same backdoor password? If you are using firebird I would suggest you change these lines in interbase/jrd/pwd.c to something else for the time being (note *QUICKFIX* only). If there are any developers of firebird around I wouldn't mind hearing reasons why this isn't the same problem? What's more, the "solution" described on the home page, namely "change super secret backdoor password to something else" won't work. That's security through obscurity in the perfect form.