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Wilfredo Sanchez Leaves Apple

Posted by AilleCat on Mon Feb 12, 2001 09:02 PM
from the darwinism-at-its-best dept.
An unnamed correspondent writes: "At least, that's the rumor on the street. Wonder what this will mean for Apple's Darwin project?" The rumor is confirmed, boys and girls, Wilfredo Sanchez has indeed left Apple. A statement is on his Advogato page; apparently he has gone to KnowNow. Sanchez says on that page too that he'll still be involved with Darwin maintaining Apache and Perl for that platform.
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  • Re:Sure enough by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:08PM
  • Re:ummm.... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @11:14PM
  • Re:Sure enough by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:10PM
  • Know-Now's 2-way web by Tony (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:15PM
  • Re:I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. by Sturm (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @04:48AM
  • The question is... by Karpe (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:19PM
  • Re:Make that "Rohit Khare". by mill (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @12:32AM
  • totally expected by higb (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @08:11AM
  • Re:Know-Now's 2-way web by dangermouse (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:45PM
  • Re:Sure enough by pudge (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @04:24AM
  • Re:Apple got what they wanted... by piggy (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @03:55AM
  • Re:My eyes (-1, Offtopic) by Art Tatum (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:16PM
  • Re:Is OS X taking off? by deeny (Score:1) Wednesday February 14 2001, @03:26PM
  • Re:Is OS X taking off? by AIXadmin (Score:1) Monday February 26 2001, @07:44PM
  • Re:Sure enough by AIXadmin (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @03:02AM
  • Re:Is OS X taking off? by AIXadmin (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @03:06AM
  • Re:Sure enough by AIXadmin (Score:1) Monday February 26 2001, @07:46PM
  • Re:Know-Now's 2-way web by Asterisk (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @07:40PM
  • Re:ApacheCon in London ? by blaster (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:35PM
  • You left out... by LennyDotCom (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:27PM
  • A tearful departure.... by tomcrooze (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:30PM
  • Re:Sure enough by Azza (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:51PM
  • Re:Information about KnowNow by MrP- (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:21PM
  • Re:Calm down, guys! by mr100percent (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @05:39AM
  • Re:Sure enough by Wire Tap (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:20PM
  • Re:Sure enough by retiarius (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:17PM
  • What he said.... by dark3lf (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @02:04AM
  • Re:Waitaminute by mr (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:06PM
  • ApacheCon in London ? by dudle (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:23PM
  • Re:Information about KnowNow by Draoi (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @06:00AM
  • Re:Sure enough by rograndom (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:29PM
  • Re:I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. by chrischow (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @08:35AM
  • Re:I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. by chrischow (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @08:37AM
  • Re:Is OS X taking off? by CrazyJoel (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @07:13AM
  • KnowNow by inditek (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:46PM
  • Re:Apple got what they wanted... by Cryptnotic (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @10:03PM
  • ummm.... by TotallyUseless (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @07:54PM
  • Re:I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. by AndyMouse GoHard (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @06:26AM
  • Re:Alfredo's post to the darwin dev list by agentZ (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @03:35AM
  • Listen up by AKAImBatman (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @12:30PM
  • His Resume by rsimmons (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @08:44AM
  • Re:Alfredo's post to the darwin dev list by jsse (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @11:38PM
  • Re:Know-Now's 2-way web by haleb (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @01:32AM
  • My eyes (-1, Offtopic) by Anoriymous Coward (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:05PM
  • Re:Apple got what they wanted... by slycer9 (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @08:35PM
  • Apple got what they wanted... by slycer9 (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:04PM
  • Re:Apple got what they wanted... by IceHunter (Score:1) Tuesday February 13 2001, @08:26AM
  • Re: Loser by purple_rider (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:29PM
  • Re:The question is... by purple_rider (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:47PM
  • Re:I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. by purple_rider (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:24PM
  • Impersonation by purple_rider (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:26PM
  • Re:*BSD is dying by OpenBeaver (Score:1) Wednesday February 14 2001, @01:29PM
  • Re:I CAN SEE THE FUTURE. by Schnedt McWhatever (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:02PM
  • Re:I CAN SEE THE FUTURE - it has M@X coverage by CargoCult (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @05:47PM
  • Is OS X taking off? by LetsRiot! (Score:1) Monday February 12 2001, @04:39PM
  • Re:Sure enough by ysanchez (Score:1) Tuesday February 20 2001, @12:24PM
  • Re:Sure enough by ysanchez (Score:1) Tuesday February 27 2001, @05:26AM
  • Re:Sure enough by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @04:14PM
  • Re:Sure enough by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @06:57PM
  • A sub-100 000 UID is cool? by Paul Crowley (Score:2) Tuesday February 13 2001, @01:25AM
  • Re:Apple got what they wanted... by MouseR (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @04:37PM
  • Re:developmental by Webmonger (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @05:40PM
  • Re:Is OS X taking off? by iso (Score:2) Tuesday February 13 2001, @07:14AM
  • You dissin' Tiger Beat? by Infonaut (Score:2) Tuesday February 13 2001, @07:01AM
  • Re:Sure enough by wsanchez (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @06:16PM
  • Re:Sure enough by wsanchez (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @06:19PM
  • Re:ummm.... by Bill Daras (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @08:22PM
  • Re:developmental by Bill Daras (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @05:01PM
  • Re:Calm down, guys! by Golias (Score:2) Tuesday February 13 2001, @06:30AM
  • Smart move. by AFCArchvile (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @04:27PM
  • developmental by pra9ma (Score:2) Monday February 12 2001, @04:09PM
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 12 2001, @04:21PM (#436382)
    With my mighty psychic powers and common sense, i can tell what this Slashdot thread will look like in 24 hours:
    • There will be between 110 and 160 comments, no more than 106 of which will have score:1 or higher.
    • At least 30 posts will be gibberish.
    • At least 40 posts will viciously attack apple in a completely unreasonable manner.
    • At least 20 posts will viciously attack apple for things that it is quite reasonable to attack them for, but which have little or nothing to do with Wilfredo Sanchez leaving apple.
    • At least 10 posts will contain bizarre vicious attacks on BSD from people who, upon examination, appear to be slightly unclear on what exactly BSD is.
    • No more than fourteen posts will actually be informed.
    • There will be between 10 and 30 posts which are well-thought-out and in general worth reading, but not particularly helpful or directly relevant.
    • No more than six posts will have anything directly to do with Wilfredo Sanchez.
    • There will be at least one utterance of the words "I will no longer be doing with apple computer" from an individual who has never owned an apple product in their life.
  • by warmcat (3545) on Tuesday February 13 2001, @12:48AM (#436383)
    ''Our Zero-Install JavaScript microserver transforms static Web pages into Dynamic HTML user interfaces by wiring them into a peer-to-peer XML message bus. By sidestepping the cost and incompatibilities of Java or ActiveX applets, ESP app developers can immediately leverage the massive installed base of 4th-generation Web browsers. Furthermore, choosing to route across the KNN can leverage our pre-provisioned real-time content, security, peering with wireless carriers, and personalized prioritization engine to deliver the right information, at the right time, on the right device, to the right people & programs.''

    Good job they went stealth, buzzwords this dense could easily have ripped space-time.
  • by deeny (10239) on Monday February 12 2001, @05:36PM (#436384) Homepage
    As Jobs said in his MacWorldExpo keynote, they expected to sell 10k of the MacOS X Public Beta and they sold 100k. The release won't ship until 3/24, but it is really solid.

    I've had two issues with it:

    1) Connecting from an old Mac to the X box using FileSharing over TCP/IP caused the Mach kernel's AFP layer to harf. To get the service going again, I had to restart (kernel services being a bummer that way). This was a known limitation; I just didn't know it.

    2) There was some issue where it wouldn't create additional terminal windows and, when pushed, it eventually wound up with a kernel panic. I sent in the backtrace. This was apparently also a known problem with some kind of memory leak.

    Minor stuff really, not problems I'd have in everyday use.

    But for using, hard, a beta OS for a couple months, not a bad track record. It will replace Linux as my home desktop OS (already has for the most part); it has more creature comforts to offer and, with open source under the hood, little of the prior MacOS's disadvantages.

    _Deirdre

  • by update() (217397) on Monday February 12 2001, @07:47PM (#436385) Homepage
    ...and by the way, I always have to laugh at Linux maniacs who have the attitude that they're the hyperrational ubergeeks while the rest of the world chooses their technology according to marketing, eyecandy or some other "Joe Sixpack" criterion. Meanwhile, their primary concerns are 1) translucent shading and 2) which free software celebrity is putting his name on it.

    Advocates of Freehand and Illustrator have some nasty flame wars, but you don't see them dropping developers' names like fashion slaves talking about designers.

  • by empath (44572) on Monday February 12 2001, @07:16PM (#436386) Homepage
    To: Darwin Development
    Subject: In case you haven't heard

    You may have noticed that my email now tends to come from MIT instead of Apple.

    I no longer work at Apple. I now work for a company called KnowNow.
    My last day at Apple was Friday 2/2.

    You may also have noticed that I've since then helped Chuck import cscope, fixed a nasty in mod_perl, fixed up libtool some because I'm porting (Apache) APRlib to Darwin and tweak flex to install libfl.a as a link to libl.a. You might therefore come to the conclusion that my involvement with Darwin is not exactly over, and you would be correct.

    For what it's worth, I've left those things I can no longer reach in good and capable hands; I couldn't have left them otherwise. As the one guy on "Dark Angel" says: "It's all good, all the time."

    Pleasant hacking,
    -Fred

    Wilfredo Sanchez - wsanchez@mit.edu
  • by Ryu2 (89645) on Monday February 12 2001, @04:23PM (#436387) Homepage Journal
    Their actual page [knownow.com] seems to be like that of Transmeta pre-2000... but the Google cache works wonders. [google.com]
  • Sure enough (Score:4)

    by wsanchez (98558) on Monday February 12 2001, @03:42PM (#436388) Homepage
    Yep.
  • Waitaminute (Score:5)

    by firewort (180062) on Monday February 12 2001, @04:14PM (#436389)
    Wilfredo Sanchez still has commit access on FreeBSD and Darwin, so even if he's gone to work for someone else, he still has the power to effect the code of major projects.

    Provided that FreeBSD remains as popular in the server market, and provided that Apple continues to integrate improvments in Darwin into their commercial release of OsX, then I expect we'll be seeing more work from Wilfredo Sanchez in the products we use.

    No cause for alarm.

    A host is a host from coast to coast, but no one uses a host that's close
  • Calm down, guys! (Score:5)

    by update() (217397) on Monday February 12 2001, @04:54PM (#436390) Homepage
    Look, I know from following the Darwin lists that Wilfredo Sanchez is a huge contributor but -- front page Slashdot news? The Mac sites aren't making such a big deal about this. It's not like Steve Jobs or Avie Tevanian is leaving.

    The free software world has this habit of latching on to whichever developer brings himself to their attention. Just try to explain to people that Jamie Zawinski didn't singlehandedly write Navigator or that Jason Haas isn't doing PowerPC Linux entirely on his own.

    Again, no disrespect to Wilfredo (or JWZ or Jason, for that matter). I know he was extremely important in OS X development. But this sort of "Stop the presses! RASTER QUIT HIS JOB AT RED HAT!" mentality strikes me as more appropriate for Tiger Beat.

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