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ICANN May Act Against RegisterFly

Posted by Zonk on Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:03 AM
from the hold-it-together- dept.
1sockchuck writes "ICANN says it will terminate RegisterFly's accreditation as a domain registrar if the company can't fix its problems within 15 days. The edict comes with RegisterFly in chaos and current management blaming a departed executive for its woes. The situation is complicated by the fact that RegisterFly sold some of its domains through a reseller agreement with eNom, and others using its own accreditation."

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  • There is always one. (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 23 2007, @11:06AM (#18123374)
    There is always one jerk ready to ruin a company to further his own goals and ambitions. They want power more than they want the company to succeed.

    Avoid the fate of this company and fire him early.
  • Coincidence (Score:5, Interesting)

    by lbft (950835) on Friday February 23 2007, @11:09AM (#18123408)
    (http://shock-horror.com/)
    Isn't it a nice coincidence that, despite all the troubles Registerfly's had, the only time ICANN stepped in and did anything was when they were owed money?
    • Re:Coincidence (Score:5, Informative)

      by rs79 (71822) <hostmaster@open-rsc.org> on Friday February 23 2007, @11:47AM (#18124020)
      (http://www.open-rsc.org/)
      "Isn't it a nice coincidence"

      No, it's not.

      They've been behind for a while and have made some pretty hfty payments and seem to be stalled over five grand.

      From icann's letter:

      III. Accreditation Fee Breaches
      Under section 3.9 of the RAA, ICANN-accredited registrars are obligated to pay yearly and
      variable fees to ICANN in a timely fashion. This portion of the notice of breach concerns
      Registerflys obligations under section 3.9 of the RAA, under which Registerfly agreed to timely
      pay its accreditation fees. Despite this agreement, Registerfly has a substantial outstanding
      balance to ICANN that it has failed to pay.
      On 10 October 2006, ICANN notified Registerfly that it had an outstanding balance of
      $131,422.86 in fees immediately due to ICANN, of which $44,985.16 was over 90 days past
      due. A month later, on 10 November 2006, ICANN had not received any response from
      Registerfly. Mike Zupke called Glenn Stansbury to inquire as to why Registerfly was not paying
      its invoices to ICANN. Mr. Stansbury reported that he was unaware of this issue. Kevin Medina
      then called Mr. Zupke and claimed to be unaware of the issue but promised to wire $49,000
      ICANN that week and another $44,000 at the beginning of the next week. During that
      conversation, Mr. Zupke expressed to Mr. Medina that failure to pay ICANN invoices is a breach
      of Registerflys RAA that, if unresolved, could result in proceedings to terminate Registerfly's
      accreditation.
      On 4 December 2006, ICANN received a wire transfer from Registerfly in the amount of
      $70,000. ICANN received an additional $59,999 the next day. On both 11 December and 19
      December 2006, ICANN requested from Mr. Stansbury and Mr. Medina payment of
      Registerflys remaining balance. Mr. Medina promised that payment would be made on 22
      December 2006. No payment was received. ICANN again requested payment of the
      outstanding balance on 9 January 2007 and 2 February 2007. To date, $5,423.86 remains
      outstanding, and is over 60 days past due.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re:Coincidence (Score:5, Informative)

        by lbft (950835) on Friday February 23 2007, @11:53AM (#18124130)
        (http://shock-horror.com/)
        That's the last time I'll try being subtle on Slashdot.

        It's obviously not a coincidence - it does tell you that ICANN doesn't give a crap about anybody getting screwed as long as it's not them.
        [ Parent ]
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    • Re:Coincidence by Auraka (Score:1) Friday February 23 2007, @02:51PM
  • Its why I use Netsol for eveything:P (Score:5, Interesting)

    by WarlockD (623872) on Friday February 23 2007, @11:20AM (#18123596)
    I think its just me, but I just don't "trust" my webhost provider ordering my domain for me. Heck, its still hard for me to trust GoDaddy, even if they are a resonable provider, just because the name dosn't sound profesional

    Bleh, I am not hip anymore.
  • not entirely accurate reporting (Score:5, Informative)

    by aonaran (15651) on Friday February 23 2007, @11:27AM (#18123742)
    (http://www.macphersonclan.com/rod)
    The article says that Register Fly started issuing SSL certs in November, however I have one that we bought in March 2006 and I had an older one from them for a personal site.
    Not that SSL is where their issues are anyway, but I thought that I'd mention it.
    • Re:not entirely accurate reporting (Score:5, Informative)

      by DA-MAN (17442) on Friday February 23 2007, @12:14PM (#18124396)
      (http://www.kabewm.com/)
      The article says that Register Fly started issuing SSL certs in November, however I have one that we bought in March 2006 and I had an older one from them for a personal site.
      Not that SSL is where their issues are anyway, but I thought that I'd mention it.


      Prior to Nov, they were a reseller of RapidSSL, and during the ordering process you were forwarded to RapidSSL.com to complete the transaction.

      RegisterFly started selling even cheaper ($9.99/year) chained link, ala Comodo. They bought their own chained root cert and now "issue" ssl certs on their own.
      [ Parent ]
  • What will happen to the domains (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 23 2007, @11:35AM (#18123854)
    So what happens to the domains when Register Fly goes under? Will you be able to freely get them them through other companies?
  • Apologies to Don McLean (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 23 2007, @11:41AM (#18123948)
    Bye, bye, old RegisterFly.
    Took my addy to the webby,
    but the webby was dry.
  • by dpbsmith (263124) on Friday February 23 2007, @12:14PM (#18124394)
    (http://www.dpbsmith.com/)
    Just wondering.

    A combination of Shutterfly and National Cash Register?

    A computer architecture with virtual registers?

    A Department of Motor Vehicles for helicars?

  • Sorry to say (Score:4, Interesting)

    As can be seen on RegisterFlies [registerflies.com], it appears that some of the officers at RegisterFly are trying to fix the problems. The new CEO claims to have put in all his private assets to make this work.

    There is some skeptisism in the forums because people aren't seeing immediate results. Well fair enough. BUT.

    There's something that bothers me a lot more though.

    Assuming that RegisterFlies doesn't make all this stuff up, then the other officers (John & Glen) keep on making very strong allegations towards Kevin Medina. (e.g. from the official statement by the new CEO John: "Mr. Medina is a selfish, cold hearted, self loving, criminal.") Well, I don't know much about the legal system, but I would suspect that any lawyer would give you the strongest advice not to even mention the guy's name until all lawsuits have been settled. I mean this is just asking for counter libel/slander (whatever the proper word is) suits.

    If you just put all your private assets into a company, why would you make it susceptible to that?

    Next, if you read the forums, people have sustained extremely serious damage. Kevin Medina may have been causing all this, a court will have to decide, but it's very likely that some very hefty lawsuits will be filed against RegisterFly by their customers (and not Kevin Medina, their contract is with RF after all). Why would anyone invest all they have into a company that is set up for this sort of trouble?

    If John and Glen are doing what is being reported on RegisterFlies, then all the power to them. I hope for them it works out, but I'm sorry to say that it's hard to see a positive future for RegisterFly.
  • by Auger Duval (806421) on Friday February 23 2007, @03:55PM (#18127554)
    Not to mention that their flyservers were shut down due to the severe weather in the NJ area (or so their cust supp ppl say)
  • Two things: (Score:2)

    by kimvette (919543) on Friday February 23 2007, @04:56PM (#18128476)
    (http://kim.biyn.com/)
    First: Kevin has hacked back into RegisterFly and has redirected the merchant account and is fucking with the data. Do not, repeat, do NOT put any transactions through to renew, purchase, or transfer domains at this time.

    Second: I submitted two stories on this, with much greater detail, literally within minutes of the events taking place. This story is behind and incomplete.
  • by kimvette (919543) on Friday February 23 2007, @05:44PM (#18129024)
    (http://kim.biyn.com/)
    From Registerflies:

      CEASE ALL TRANSACTIONS WITH REGISTERFLY!
    Written by Administrator
    Friday, 23 February 2007
    Site Hacked and Data Corrupted

    Attention everyone. I just received confirmation that the Registerfly site has currently been hacked into and taken over by Kevin Medina in the Florida office. I was asked to put this up here due to the amount of customers that are sending money. At this moment, they are trying to get police in Florida to arrest Kevin immediately.

    I'm relaying a message that they have asked me to put up on here. They have lost control of even the site and are locked out of the system. The data has been corrupted but they do have a back up and are scrambling to get this situation resolved.

    Your support forms on this site will be held right now and forwarded when we know the proper management team has control of the data.

    This is only what I've been told and this is currently the only medium of communication that the current management of Registerfly has. More updates soon.
  • From http://registerflies.com/component/option,com_joom laboard/Itemid,26/func,view/id,828/catid,2/ [registerflies.com]

    KEVIN'S INFO - 2007/02/23 11:32 Kevin's Address:
    450 Alton Road
    Unit #4002
    Miami Beach, FL 33139

    Kevin's Bank:
    Citibank, N.A. BR. #46
    401 Arthur Godfrey Road
    Miami Beach, FL 33140

    Kevin's Landlord:
    Jose Frias
    90 ALTON RD #TH-11
    MIAMI BEACH, FL 33139
    josefrias@mac.com
    01158212 234 7003 or cell 01158 416 8213853

    Kevin's building:
    The ICON: 305-695-6910
    Board@iconsouthbeach.com


    Kevin's Mother :
    Miriam Medina
    1-732-679-7984
    2D Linden Court
    Old Bridge, NJ 08857
    miriammedina@earthlink.net


    Kevin's 18 year old BOYfriend:
    Neil Frias
    239-878-4059
    http://www.myspace.com/petthemonkey [myspace.com]
    Neil's Mother: dearmasr@aol.com

    James Max Miller (Prostitute):
    jmaxmiller@gmail.com
    http://www.myspace.com/jmaxmiller [myspace.com]
    917-763-2893 (from cell phone records)

    Judge Peter Sheridan Civil Action No: 07-703 (Will not issue a restraining order to block Kevin Medina until March 9th)

    Kevin's Supposed Lawyer:
    52 Upper Montclair Plaza (Upper Montclair)
    Montclair, New Jersey 07043
    Telephone: 973-744-4000
    Fax: 973-783-1524 Loading... No message is selected
    Click any message to view it in the reading pane. Attachments, pictures, and links from unknown senders are blocked to help protect your privacy and safety.
  • Kevin responds (Score:2)

    by kimvette (919543) on Friday February 23 2007, @08:28PM (#18130598)
    (http://kim.biyn.com/)
    http://registerflies.com/official-statement-from-r egisterfly-2.html [registerflies.com]

    Search for "kevinm" which appears to be kevin, and the logged IP traceroutes to southern Florida
  • Re:Icann I can not. (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 23 2007, @11:14AM (#18123502)
    Never fear, ICANN are here!

    Stand back good citizens, while I create useless top level domains!
    [ Parent ]
  • Re:Warning (Score:2)

    by kimvette (919543) on Friday February 23 2007, @05:42PM (#18128996)
    (http://kim.biyn.com/)
    Do not transfer money, submit transactions through, or do ANYTHING to your RegisterFly account at this time. Kevin Medina hacked his way back in and is fucking the system up right now. He knows he's fucked so he is working to make it as messy as humanly possible.
    [ Parent ]
  • Re:Warning (Score:1)

    by totolovesLassie (1068704) on Monday February 26 2007, @11:01AM (#18153622)
    Hi. Maybe some of you computer guys can answer this. When I try to log on at Registerfly, my Mozilla pops up a box that says the SSL certificate is a mismatch. It says I am trying to log in at registerfly.com and the certificate is for www.registerfly.com. It warns that someone may be trying to watch my communications with Registerfly. In view of all of the stuff that's going on, I don't want to enter my username and password at Registerfly if there is potentially someone snooping. Any thoughts from you smart guys? Toto
    [ Parent ]
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