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Comment Re:Flock refers to all of them (Score 1) 36

You might, but Joe Public isn't. People are cutting Flock cameras down, they are not ripping RING doorbells of houses for the most part. Now I'll grant you the person taking a sawzall to their local Flock camera isn't maybe the sharpest knife in the drawer, however...

The people showing up at your county supervisors meeting are not demanding the county cancel their contract with Motorola or issue a statement saying they won't deploy Motorola ALPR. They are there given their rant about Flock; the sheriff's deputy in the corner who knows better dutifully maintains his neutral expression, even the ones receptive to the privacy arguments sit there considering how they like being on the board and how another officer involved shooting in front the BigBoxMart vs picking up the guy quietly at their home, isn't good for keeping their positions. Similarly is explaining why 22% of the safety budget was spent services they did not use and equipment they exposed of before it was depreciated is also unhelpful. Sure they could say we did it because privacy, but that leaves them to explain why they went for it in the first place. We all know if you are explaining you already lost the argument when it comes to elections.

So they say "Mr. Smith, the county thanks your for your comments and we can assure you we are not considering partnering with Flock." While keeping entirely quiet about all the other surveillance build out that is happening as fast the budget allows.

So no when 'we' as in 'we the people' complain about Flock, it is not a general complaint, most of the people don't read Slashdot, they don't know about the other stuff, and their complaint isn't registered as anti surveillance its registered as anti-Flock, because politically that is much easier!

Comment Re: Wow! (Score 1) 46

No, this is the exact reason why the ACA is a disaster. Insurance company profits are capped at a percentage of the cost of care, so they are motivated to drive up costs. But what about the uncovered treatments that the hospitals have to eat?

I heard exactly this during a consulting project in the health insurance space. We set up the ACA so that driving up costs made sense to hospitals and insurance companies who manage the major entitlements (medicare, medicaid). Zero incentives to drive costs down.

Comment Re:Open source & make public (Score 2) 36

Do you really want to enable everyone to stalk everyone?

I understand the motivation, an appreciate you maybe are thinking that might finally wake some of the political animals up to consequences of letting the Si Valley and MIC boys and girls do whatever they want all the time, but in the mean time that creep your daughter said 'no' to in the bar the other day can start popping up all kinds of places she just happens to be at...

I think this is place our society is really not ready to go, temporary or not.

Comment The problem isnt the ALPRs its the plates (Score 3, Interesting) 36

The obsession many have developed with Flock and it is exactly than an obsession, because literally all thinking people do about it have little or nothing to do with Flock itself is really counter productive.

There are real privacy questions here. Should police have access to ALPR aggregators and as a subscription service really isn't one of them.

The technology to recognize a plate is getting better and better pretty soon there will be zero need for a purpose built camera, computer vision will identify a vehicle plate from a photo taken at any angle at any level of clarity a human could and then some. There are plenty of nice images complete with exif tags for date time precise location all over social media to scrape, there plenty of things like RING cameras, and even if its not Amazon specifically other companies will share their data, that do residential and commercial surveillance. It will not be long before gait + face + other recognition technologies are sufficient to relatively positively track individuals and vehicles, coupled with AI to correlate these uniqued tracks with a few really positive identifications say from ALPR, and anyone with enough cash is going to be able to construct a very detailed picture of everywhere a person or vehicle has been.

Policing and potential abuse is just one angle, and it isn't the angle I'd even worry about for every case of abuse there are at least some kidnapped children returned home, some property recovered, some criminals off the street, and remember those people arrested rightly or wrongly still get a trial - well unless they act like anti-society loonatices and try to combat law enforcement...they yes they might get shot.

Personally I think we should care about privacy. Police abuse though quite honestly seems like less of an issue for most people, I'd be more worried if my HR department suddenly got to start evaluating if I went the bars or the horse track to often for their taste. Maybe your homeowners company raises your rates because they see how frequently you visit the DIY warehouse store?

There really are only three (3) real solutions here and two (2) sorta practicle ones.
1) Eliminate all requirements to display unique identifiers in public. IE No more license plate numbers, just a state registration tag except on public vehicles (IE police, fire, medical, municipal). Non-government employers should be strictly prohibited from requiring employees ware any identification that shows and employee number or name when they are not on the employees own premises. You could still say you must where have on your "I am Steve's HVAC employee badge" when you visit a client, it just can't say you are "Jim Smith, #192".

2) Restrict photography, that captures individuals or vehicles on public property - ie streets. Carve outs would need to exist for places identified as parks etc where people would simply have the expectation of being photographed at least incidentally to others taking their family vacation photos etc. Yes this will change the media landscape we are used to in a huge way. We will have to go back to accepting witness description of evens in our daily news feeds.

3) Try to legally control the aggregation and sale of individualized marketing data. This is the one I actually don't think is reasonably. I think you have to tackle the production of the data on the supply side because it only becomes marketing data when it is used for marketing, before that it is someones security footage, university research projection, or news gathering operation. Trying to imagine and describe what is legally permissible to do with collected images from any number of sources after the fact with lots of actors motivated to try and get around it, is probably hopeless. The law just isn't that plastic.

Comment Indian woman takes over XBox sales down 25% (Score -1, Flamebait) 46

Opens her mouth, and suddenly the stupid Microsoft slop hardware is an object of fun. Meanwhile, Sony publishes AAA games that are woke, and wonders why men are no longer buying its games, stuffed with hideous, gay, ugly, rainbow limp wristed perverted propaganda. Written by braindead, childless fat women who make themselves even uglier than even their fat physiognomy sanctions. It's all brainwashed woke DEI slop.

Comment Re: Everything is bombing (Score 1) 33

"Musk" was shown on exactly 4 screens world-wide, "The History of Concrete" was on considerably more screens...

I saw "Concrete", it was a very east coast intellectual almost art film. It was enjoying, but it is aimed at a very particular audience, a very New York audience (it's a very New York movie, and if you don't know what that means, it means the city plays an integral part in the movie, relying on inside jokes New Yorkers would be familiar with, for examples see any of Woody Allen's early movies).

Comment Re: Get out a backhoe (Score 1) 98

The college still had an in-effect contact with Flock, they can't just declare it 'abandoned' and do as they like with it.

Tampering with the cameras would make the college responsible for the damage.

As for the student "arrested in the parking lot" - so what? It obviously wasn't ICE (that would have been mentioned) and we have no idea why the student was arrested - cops could have followed him into the parking lot for a moving violation, they could have had a warrant and pinged his cellphone, he could have been breaking into cars in the parking lot, selling drugs in the parking, etc... I didn't realize that community college parking lots were 'sanctuaries' for criminals.

Comment Re: Also our news media is completely captured (Score 1) 33

What a silly take - this wasn't an 'indie film' that was self-financed and the suppressed/held back by "the Epstein Class" (whatever the fuck that is), a major studio spent $30M to make this movie - that $30M CAME FROM "The Epstein Class"... why would they fund a movie, film it, then put it in theaters only to suppress it?

This monomaniacal focus on the rich being responsible for everything that goes wrong in the world is a bit childish...

Comment I saw it... (Score 3, Informative) 33

I saw it, it was mildly interesting, but the movie didn't really engage me... it wasn't really about the whistleblower, it wasn't really about the journalist, it wasn't really about Zuck/Facebook, it wasn't really about J6 - it was just an exercise telling multiple parallel stories.

I think there was an interesting movie in there, but the editing made it a confusing movie.

I saw Digger too, what a horrid hot mess that movie was...

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