That's the same thing. Ignoring the fact that Congress has basically stripped the divisions of government of the funding needed to battle stuff like this out in court the reality is that after decades of Court packing with pro corporate judges none of those finds will ever be levied unless it's against something like a hobbyist.

And people pay fines all the damn time without involving the courts. There is decades of precedence for that.

If you interfere with a large corporation you will still get fined and or locked up. This only applies to fines that would be levied against large corporations.

America selectively enforces laws. It's a big club and you ain't in it...

Maybe we shouldn't have let corporations take over the supreme Court but hey, egg prices were pretty high so what were we supposed to do? And how about her emails?

Or the European equivalent here. If the job creators aren't going to do their job and create jobs then I don't see why we should wait around and suffer praying to whatever deity you prefer that they suddenly wake up one day and decide to do it.

...a capitalist or socialist. Perhaps "meddle-ist" is most appropriate: he likes to stick his fingers into where whim takes them.

First off 65% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

That study is really really really stretching the definition of middle class.

Middle class means you are economically secure and have a socially acceptable level of disposable income.

You're ignoring the percentage of people who went from middle class to poor.

Also that study rates middle class as $100,000 a year. That's not middle class in 2025 that's barely making it. You're not in the middle class until you're clearing at least 150k because of out of control housing prices...

Basically that study is talking about middle class in the numeric sense not in the social sense. We're talking apples and oranges here.

So my point still stands. By the definition of middle class did most people use, specifically people who are economically secure and have a reasonable amount of disposable income capable of driving a consumer economy forward, then yeah the middle class took it into shorts and automation devoured jobs.

What this study shows is that the income inequality Gap is growing. Not that the middle class is getting rich

When nobody is employed who is going to buy your products? If your products are specifically for the ultra wealthy then I guess yeah, carry on. But otherwise those slick commercials are all well and good but they're not going to help when people can't afford your products.

And remember no matter how essential you think your products are or how essential they really are it doesn't matter if people don't have the money to buy them. There are children dying of cancer right now because they can't afford the medicine to keep themselves alive. The money is either there or the money isn't.

You're only real hope is that you are old enough that you're going to die before the worst of it hits. And if you're really young or if you have a background in medical you might end up drafted in the wars that are coming.

Only a very handful of people are going to escape the chaos that's coming and even they will eventually be dragged into it when the wars start. Eventually those wars will go nuclear and unless you are an ultra-wealthy billionaire who can escape to a private island with a bunker and your contractors haven't skimped out and made a bunker with broken air circulation then you're not going to escape what's coming.

And if you're posting on slash Dot I can tell you that you are not one of the billionaires who has a private bunker on an island...

Is an automation technology. They view it as a consumer product for creating funny videos and pictures.

Even here a lot of people haven't cottoned on to the fact that AI exist as an automation tool for billionaires.

Automation has been devouring middle class jobs since the 80s it's just been doing it in the factories so us tech nerds didn't really notice it

There's a study that indicates that 70% of middle class jobs lost in the last 45 years got taken by robots in factories.

But absolutely no one has talked about the role of automation in taking jobs. The only politician I've seen even try to address it so far is Bernie Sanders and he's just now starting to talk about it.

There is no way that the billionaires and the upper level policy wonks didn't know that automation was a problem. Guys like Bill Clinton and Bush senior and the heritage foundation were absolutely aware of it. Same with Joe Biden.

I think on the Democrat party side Hillary and Bill Clinton wanted to use advanced education to counteract automation with the idea that Americans would all become the world's managers. Joe Biden on the other hand and his side of the party wanted to bring back unions in order to drive up wages and use that as a counter, creating a strong organized labor that could address automation. The Republicans of course just want to do whatever the billionaire is in big business want...

The actual left wing which is pretty tiny in America doesn't have any idea what to do about it though. If you ask them they'll answer is socialism but they don't have any clue how to get people to accept that. People don't want handouts and people don't want their money taken and handed out.

As it stands no one has a working viable solution which is why I think we're eventually going to see a massive world war that goes nuclear.

Absolutely hated it and will fight it because they can't control the quality of the delivery drivers. There's been lots of cases of restaurants getting bad reviews online because the food was delivered late by a delivery driver that isn't employed by them..

I can see similar problems with this bullshit. Where Amazon acts as a third party intermediary causing all sorts of problems.

Large corporations and political systems designed to support and empower them are what's causing enshitification.

The world is not just a series of individual actions by individuals. Systems control and define the available actions and available thoughts people are allowed to and capable of having.

For god sakes read up on the history of whatever country you live in and the political systems and why they were created. Pick up a 200 level textbook not a high school level one...

Jesus Christ this is why I don't think the human race is going to survive the next 20 years.

There is absolutely no benefit for me in ai. Even the kind of research that AI is supposed to make easier and lead to advancements was just as easily done with already existing machine learning algorithms. These large-scale llms do not benefit me in any way, shape or form.

The only thing they do is guzzle water and electricity, take up all the RAM and storage and occasionally cost me some job opportunities eventually costing a hell of a lot of job opportunities if it all pans out.

Remember that the problem AI is designed to solve is paying wages.

And even if it doesn't immediately replace your job the jobs it does replace or just gone from the economy and so is all that spending. Because there are no magical new jobs to replace the ones ai and automation are taking. Seriously sit down and try to write out the list of jobs. You can't they don't exist.

This means that as ai and automation continuously take more and more jobs there's less spending in our consumer driven economy.

That's going to create a death spiral. There's less spending because there's less jobs and with less spending that's going to lead to layoffs in other sectors of the economy and less jobs and so on so on so forth.

It will eventually settle down but as it stands it's looking like it all settle down around 25 to 40% unemployment. Permanently.

But we're still going to have a whole lot of people we need to be working. So there's going to be a conflict between the people for who there is no useful work that they are capable of doing and the people who we still need to be doing work.

And no we can't all just be plumbers and HVAC welders.

Remember that 25% unemployment triggered world War ii. And the president of the United States is looking to start a war with Europe...

Meanwhile people who have jobs are going to resent people that don't have jobs wanting food and shelter and people without jobs who are facing homelessness and starvation are going to resent handouts.

I don't know what we do about that. I don't think there's anything we can do about that. As it stands I think our leadership is going to start a conventional world War and it's going to go nuclear.

Happy to be proven wrong but that seems to be the trajectory. And if it doesn't happen the alternative seems to be techno feudalism and a terrifying dystopian where a tenth of a percent of the population live like gods and do terrible things to everybody else.

That was literally my point. We don't bother blocking reverse engineering.

Do you think that if blocking reverse engineering was useful for large companies that they wouldn't have just lobbied for and gotten a law banning it?

The reason why we don't have a law overriding all that legal precedence is because there isn't any need for it because antitrust law violations and monopolies are much more effective at preventing competition then a law banning reverse engineering.

Enshutification isn't a problem with consumers. The problem you're having is that you can only think of problems in terms of individual actions. This is a common mistake that libertarians and right wingers make where you can't imagine systemic problems. They simply do not exist in your worldview because everything has to be individual actions taken by fully informed individuals.

I'm sorry to say that's not how the world works and systemic problems do exist.

In this case it literally does not matter what individuals do. Powerful organizations with unlimited Monopoly power can force consumers to take certain actions whether those consumers want to or not. People are not fully informed and cannot expect to be. Never mind the fact that the average reading level in America is around 7th or 8th grade limiting American thinking to somewhere around age 12 or 13...

In capitalism competition would normally be the main Force to push back against enshitification. But capitalism no longer functions in America because we fired the referee. The referee are all those bureaucrats that I'm sure you're so upset with.

When it comes to white collar crime like antitrust law violations law enforcement is done by bureaucrats. There is a reason why so much money was spent making sure that you hate bureaucrats. If you're thinking was not constrained then that is something that you would realize. Now would be a good time to take a step back and remove those constraints on your thinking...

The problem is I don't know how to help you do that without you getting angry at me for pointing out that you've been made a fool of by billionaires and their think tanks. Also your entire worldview rests on a shaky foundation and that's probably not something you're equipped to deal with. You need to undergo a process called deconstruction. It's what people in extremist religions do when they leave the religion. Sometimes becoming atheists and sometimes joining a more moderate religion. The same process can be applied to politics and economic policy but it's extremely painful..

And of course pointing all this out does not ingratiate me with you or anyone else like you. Again I don't know how to be nice about it. Good luck kiddo

Into the hands of a few players. Microsoft owning GitHub gives them access to a bunch of code and discussion about that code that otherwise wouldn't exist anywhere else. When stack overflow completely finishes dying and AI bots can no longer be trained from that repository Microsoft is the only company that's going to have a repository suitable for training.

Basically whoever controls the major platforms gets to control the training data needed to keep AI functional. Similarly Facebook and Twitter and Reddit are the only platforms large enough to provide enough training data for things like images and text.

This means that we're going to have monopolies for the AI tech of llms. And those basically nothing to stop that.

It makes sense for players like Ubuntu to get out of that ecosystem so that their work isn't being used to help that process of monopolization and consolidation along.

Honestly if it wasn't from Monopoly Linux on the desktop would have happened 20 years ago when netbooks took off. If we have proper antitrust law enforcement then when that guy from Asus or Acer I forget which did that drunken rant about how Microsoft shut down their Linux netbooks there would have been an investigation and Microsoft would have been broken up then and there.

But voters have different priorities than antitrust law enforcement so here we are.

I've seen these ridiculously huge batteries built out of just salt or some other common material that are used to store heat energy from renewables so that they can cheaply have the renewables provide base power.

It's kind of frustrating to think that we could probably get off fossil fuels in a couple of decades if we did a moon landing style project for it. But the Middle East countries and American oil companies sure as hell aren't going to allow that...

That Twitter even before Musk would not automatically detect Nazis and white supremacists because when they wrote algorithms to do that it kept flagging US Republican politicians.

This is because computers are very very good at making connections. And the Nazis and the Republicans both use the same dog whistles just a few steps removed here and there.

The most famous example is welfare queen. Welfare was chosen as a way to reference blacks and queen is a way to reference gay people. It was a easy and effective way to say something bad about black people and gay people without actually just flat out saying it. That's a dog whistle.

The problem is that computer algorithms are surprisingly smart when it comes to figuring out dog whistles because they can see the connections very very quickly without belonging to a specific group. Normally it takes quite a bit of time and quite a bit of immersion in politics before you recognize the dog whistle when you see it but a computer is going to do it instantaneously and without regard who is saying the dog whistle.

So when a republican politician goes on a tirade about welfare Queens the computer knows what they're talking about and was flagging them as the white supremacist that they are.

You can still find the articles about this on Google surprisingly. Search for something like "Twitter can't use an algorithm to detect Nazis because of Republican politicians" and you'll find them.

Now to bring this back to the point of the article so I don't get modded off topic there is no way muskrat is going to properly open source the algorithm because it would open up that discussion again. It's going to be like the Epstein files where we see bits and pieces of it with a lot of obvious redactions

But you can't actually do that. Your planes would be detected and shut down long before that happened.

Also anytime you're up wants to stop Trump their intelligence agencies could flood social media with the Epstein files and push back against Russian propaganda directed towards American voters.

Europe could easily use information warfare to shut down Trump and the fact that they're not doing it tells me that your leadership wants trump..

I suspect that Europe and European countries in general believe that with America collapsing because of trump they will be able to step into a better position. That would work except America has a military large enough to fight the entire planet and we are fucking insane. We do not care that Europe has nukes because God will protect us.