"Eliminating that incredible poison, toxic in every stage of its extraction, use, and disposal, to the extent feasible is an obvious priority"

My point, which none of the replies address, is: who is it a priority for? Only for the countries that are doing about 5% of global emissions. Whether we believe there is a climate crisis or not, 95% of the world doesn't, and are acting accordingly.

What people in the English speaking countries need to recognize is that the world is not going to lower emissions. This is not about whether we believe, whether I personally believe, whether there really is a crisis or not.

Its about the simple fact that in 40 years of trying the advocates of the reality of a crisis have failed to persuade the world of their point of view. So any sensible policy has to accept this, and has to accept that global action is not happening and is not going to happen.

This is reality, and its the only sensible starting point for policy discussions. The world in which policy is formulated and implemented will be one in which only supplies of fossil fuel are the limiting factor for global emissions.

Accept this, because its reality. Then figure out whether in such a world your national policies make any sense, what effects if any they will have. The answer will mostly be that they do nothing at all.

For example, the UK is supposedly moving to net zero in power generation, and is also supposedly moving to ban the sale of all except EVs in 2030. The question to ask is: what difference will that make to the world and global emissions in a world in which 95% of the emissions are done by countries who don't care one way or the other and have no intention of reducing their emissions?

The answer is, it will make no difference whatever. Same goes by the way for the US, which has now opted out anyway. No presently proposed policies in the English speaking countries will make the slightest contribution to lowering global emissions. This is the way the world is, whether we like it or not.

Now the question is, why do you still want to do these things? This is the important, hard and inconvenient question. Its analogous to the question about antibiotics. Refusing to treat your child with them will make no difference to global antibiotic resistance. Accept that, because its the truth. Now, why do you still want to refuse?

My memories of college include feeling lucky if I had enough quarters to do laundry!

My memories of college include seeking lucky if I GOT LUCKY (ie got laid).

Oh to be a young lad chasing tail in the days when it was easy to just be boys and girls and no one had fear of false allegations, willfully fucking and no one yelling rape....or being put on blast on non-existent social media or having a fucking camera everywhere......those were the days.

Where the fuck are these modern day college kids getting the extra money to gamble with in the first place?!?!

Hell, I worked during the summers for money towards my college, along with parental help....and I had to do the old typical 'starving student' type thing.....save nickels and dimes for cheap beer/booze occasionally....pool funds for an occasional pizza...etc.

I didn't have money to wager.....

Is this what kids are using school loans for and racking up $100k's of debt over?

Sheesh.....and they they want a fucking bailout by the taxpayers....good luck on that.

Joe Biden is a far better person than Donald Trump. Mentally, emotionally, patriotically competently

LOL....you keep on smokin' whatever you're smokin'......seems to be good stuff.

I'm against the illegal kind....boot them all out, I very much DID vote for this.

As for asylum seekers and other types of immigration, I think we need to shut the door for awhile...period.

Until we can rectify the problems we have already in the country, let's quit letting anyone else in for awhile.....with only VERY rare exceptions.

Biden sure but through and through he was a decent person and it's quite sad we can't say that about the leader of our nation anymore.

You've gotta be shitting me...Biden was about as slimy, scummy and corrupt as they come.

His track record shows that from the early days of extreme pagerism, to corrupt connections via his family to foreign countries, often less than friendly to the US.

Hunters dalliances with foreign money and "no show" jobs was not an accident....done fully with Joes blessing while he still had a brain.

Joe Biden's corruption, and creepiness (did you is all the kid sniffing?) was long documented over his I whole political career.

He's as scummy as they come.....

Almost like they have a boner for masked law enforcement kidnapping people into rental vans.

If you're here in the US illegally....then I"m ALL FOR IT.

Frankly, I don't see a problem with this....I fail to understand why any American citizen would....

about environmental causes loose their shit when you tell them to cut back or eliminate eating meat.

Geez I guess they people would want to line all those on the "carnivore diet" against the proverbial wall and shoot them, eh?

By the way....do these documents give one carbon credits if you go on a diet???

If so, what can you buy with these credits?

Time for Slashdot to wake up. Along with the Copernicus Climate Change Service.

Rightly or wrongly the vast majority of the world's nations don't believe in any kind of climate crisis. They don't believe there is any 'accelerating rate of climate change'. They don't believe anything much is going on. This includes the ones whose emissions are greatest and fastest growing. And even within the nations whose political leadership does still claim to believe in it, their populations increasingly do not.

Then you have to look at the measures proposed by those of the activist persuasion. They mostly boil down to electrify every use of energy, and get your electricity from wind and solar. Its not happening, and its not going to happen, at least not on any scale that will make any material difference to emissions. Even if you could convert generation to wind and solar, which you can't because of intermittency, that would only reduce 20% of so of emissions. Trying to electrify everything at the same time is just going to produce blackouts and rising prices, and no non-democratic country is going to try it, because they are terrified of the resulting unrest. And because they think its pointless. As for the democracies, any government trying it will just be voted out of office for a generation when the results become clear.

For a case history of how this will play out everywhere its tried, look at the UK.

What do you do about the UN if you are one of the biggest and fastest growing emitters? You send delegations to the climate conferences with a simple set of instructions: to prevent any significant and binding agreements on emission reduction. In which they have succeeded ever since Paris, and they aren't going to stop now.

My suggestion to Slashdot editors is that its time to wake up. First, there is no crisis. But second, even if there were one, there is no program to do anything about it, and there is not going to be. This last is just a fact about the way the world is. You may not like it, but there is no sense denying the undeniable. Its similar to proposing to cut teenage pregnancies by promoting celibacy while leaving current social mores unchanged. Its not going to happen. You may not like it, but if you really want to cut teenage pregnancies, you have to start from the way the world is, not from how you may wish it was.

If you really want to safeguard your population against the supposed climate crisis, do something that is achievable and effective if achieved. Moving your country to wind and solar is not going to work, and if it did would make little or no difference. And stop endlessly lamenting how we are all doomed from emissions with the implication that if we save a few million tons it will make a difference. It won't. Instead figure out what the real danger to our population is, and what is cost effective to do about it.

Time for the US to nationalise all things vehicle. Registration and taxes. Emissions and smog checks. Safety inspections. Dealership laws and regulations. Driver licensing (including for trucks, busses etc). Road rules. The lot.

Fuck that.

I want the govt more OUT of my life, I dont want to give them more pathways into my life....

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What happens when all car manufacturers are displaying ads?

It's spreading...I just read something or maybe I saw it reported on YouTube...about Jeep doing this very same type thing....advertising something, I forgot exactly what it was...but was very similar to this.

For some things you don't even need ChatGPT. If you're having the flu, it would be really nice if you just call the doctor to get the prescription instead of having to pay a visit where the doctors says "Yeah here is the prescription, bye and come back if it doesn't get better". Sometimes you really don't need a long diagnosis.

What meds for the flu?

I mean, there is Tamiflu (sp?)...but that's really only effective if you catch it at the beginning.....but the best diagnosis is generally, treat the symptoms, plenty of fluids, rest and let it run its course...

Flu is viral....so NO ANTI-BIOTICS....no matter how much the patient bitches and asks for them....

In the USA car companies are bribing politicians to keep fuel economy standards low because they do not want to spend money on R&D. Meanwhile the Chinese car makers are designing dark factories that crank out electric cars that are better and less expensive than anything made in the USA. Ten years from now there are going to be Chinese factories in the USA cranking out amazing cars. And it is going to be a bloodbath for the companies that want to keep living in the past.

Those cheap Chinese EVs aren't going to do a damned bit of good for the at least 1/3+ of US citizens that have no way to charge at home.

Unless you live on one of the extremes coasts, there just is not sufficient public charging infrastructure......hence, there's not likely to be much more EV demand in the US than there is now for the most part.

People largely don't want them....the ones that do, have them already.

Sure, low cost will win a lot of people over, BUT that hits a brick wall when you can't charge the damned things at home and they don't fit within your lifestyle .....

Just how many innocent mice were killed and autopsied for this "research", just so wags could make jokes on social media?

What are "wags"?

Hell, my thought was,...MAYBE, we'll see the same effects of blue and green hair dye....and pretty soon, all the wailing far leftist protesters and complainers on TikTok will just basically dye, pierce and tattoo themselves out of the gene pool and we can maybe get back to a bit more normal like the days I grew up in .....