The people at Debian who chose to adopt systemd with less than the usual amount of debate, and at other distributions as well. I thought you participated in these discussions at the time? Guess not.

sysvinit has never stopped me from booting, but systemd has. In fact I got into a situation where in order to troubleshoot booting, I would have had to use a debugger. That's when I noped out forever.

sysvinit with startpar and the LSB-derived daemon management boilerplate is more than adequate. If you want to use another init system, feel free, but there is absolutely no justification for deprecating sysvinit. You do not need sleep commands, you need to read the headers of some init scripts and see that they contain dependency information, then use dependency chaining to ensure that scripts fire in the correct order. It's really not different from filling out the appropriate fields of a unit file.

Middle class jobs? They sure don't fucking pay like middle class jobs. Most people who think they are in the middle class are in fact not.

That's not how it's going to work. In the past you'd replace people with automation and then they'd go get a job that was harder to automate. Well, now the job that's harder to automate requires a four year degree or better, and they're looking at automating that job away as well.

Humanity punted on sharing the wealth when this became an issue, but now there's no more time to waste not solving it, because we're at an inflection point. You're going to care if your job is lost to automation today if the other job you were going to do is lost to automation tomorrow.

Nobody said otherwise but you had to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that you missed the point.

The Luddites didn't say we shouldn't advance technology. They said that the advances in technology should benefit everyone, not just the capitalists at the top of the pyramid.

You are attacking a position that not even the Luddites held. Enjoy playing with your straw man, but you are adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

You mean the nuclear playboys agitating to spend OUR MONEY on foolish bullshit that we don't need, and in fact we'd get more for OUR MONEY elsewhere? Your childish vagueposting doesn't specify and there's no need to announce your departure as this is not an airport, just fuck off already.

You're not accounting for lifecycle footprint, and you're also using an irrelevant metric. We have lots of room for solar.

It's not an either-or discussion? So you're going to pay for both things to happen? Because here in the really real world, budgets are finite.

You seem to be latched on to numbers that don't matter in order to justify your OOH NEATO GLOWING ROCKS MAKE POWER fetish.

So what does that have to do with you?

With dry-cooler-based designs, itâ(TM)s a closed-loop system with no evaporative water cooling â" outside of maybe 1% of the year when we might need chillers in some climates.â

Which in the really real world of global warming, can rapidly turn into a lot more than 1%. And designs like what's described above are IN THE MINORITY.

If you want to present yourself as knowing something about a subject, you'd better not immediately prove you don't, as you did here.

So then why are you bothering to howl? IDGAF, even a little bit.

100% this -anyone allowing the device to start up without a pin/password was box-checking their way thru some FDE compliance mandate not taking device encryption seriously as a security control

Western governments have been ensuring that general public does not have access to encryption since clipper chip and likely before. Once computers got powerful enough and electronic communication got cheap enough they got worried and have been working to sabotage any true E2E ever since.

Which is why taking advice from government agency, let alone allowing them to set enforceable standards should be opposed, and to the degree advice from NIST/CISA/FBI/NSA etc should be followed it needs to be run thru the common sense test and smell tests, and independently evaluated BEFORE implementation. In most cases it is good advice. As long as the threat model isn't - keep your data away from a 5 eyes agency.

Realistically nobody controls the software stack, it does not matter how good your crypto is if you are auto updating and installing code that can send the data home after its already decrypted even if the keys do remain a secret in some secure enclave.

Realistically for most users the best place to keep the real keys to your personal the kingdom and your most private conversations, is probably a second mobile device from a reputable vendor that mostly remains at home and use something like iMessage or Signal. Reboot the device often only install the handful of applications you need, don't use it for browsing. That really should keep your stuff beyond the reach of most threat actors. Will dear old uncle Sam still be able to get into if the situation becomes serious enough they are willing to expose methods and practices, perhaps after some public theater where they pretend to need Apple/Samsung/Alphabet's help and/or that they have to really coerce that cooperation, certainly. However we probably really are into if you have not done anything wrong you have nothing to hide territory there...like if you murder 10s of innocent people in a night club or something f-u I hope society does rifle thru your stuff.

While this is true, those jobs are few in number.

Historically, little. The bulk of DCs have typically been located where people could go to them because that used to be more necessary, and therefore they were concentrated around tech firms. And they were planned out years in advance, and mostly sited where it made sense. They also weren't maximally power-dense, as there were other considerations. AI DCs are more power intensive, as they're shoving as many processors and as much memory as possible into every rack. And they're building them fast and desperately, so anywhere they can find to cram them in.

That means yes, noise issues, but also lots of other problems associated with rapidly installing extremely power intensive facilities in awkward locations when infrastructure is already strained. Resulting issues with power and water availability are now well documented.

Good thing they are nowhere near having a monopoly then

I agree. The existing players themselves would increase capacity in hope of outcompeting one another if they thought this would last.

Nope. There will be more idiots behind them.

Things systemd doesn't do for 200, Alex

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