Please create an account to participate in the Slashdot moderation system


Forgot your password?
DEAL: For $25 - Add A Second Phone Number To Your Smartphone for life! Use promo code SLASHDOT25. Also, Slashdot's Facebook page has a chat bot now. Message it for stories and more. Check out the new SourceForge HTML5 Internet speed test! ×
User Journal

Journal Journal: The Gaming Cloud: Numbers from OnLive

A long time ago I wrote a draft a blog post regarding the overall cost of OnLive vs the overall cost of owning a 360. I based my numbers on some guess work and Amazon EC2. Now the numbers are out I'd like to re-visit that post, updating it with what I now know.

I will make the following assumptions as I made previously:

        * Both consoles will be used for 40 hours a month.
        * Both consoles will be used for both online and single player.

I am not an economist as such the number will be wrong, the maths broken and overly simplified but as this is all for my own fun I think I can get away with it. Please correct my mistakes.

The total cost of ownership of a system can be split into the fixed costs (the price of the system) and the operation costs (the price of running the system - such as electricity).

A consoles fixed costs are quite high, a new 60 gig 360 is $300. The running costs for a 360 are the broadband connection(1) at about $15 a month and the electricity need to feed it. A hunt about put the electricity cost at $1.7 a month(2). Finally for the 360 you have XBox Live Gold at $4.17(3) as multiplayer is required.

The Cloud system will also require some hardware in the form of an IP-enabled MPEG player with a controller. This is an advanced DVD or Blu-ray player so I would guesstimate a cost of $70. It is very likely that the end user would not pay for this directly but for the sake of argument we will leave it as a fixed cost.

As with the 360 we will have a broadband connection at $15 a month and the electricity. I will use the electric cost of a PlayStation 2 as I think the two would be approximately equally powered. Plus the new system will likely also use things like wireless controllers offsetting any gains by modern construction methods. As such it will cost just $0.45 a month to run.

The one off cost could be avoided by using an existing hardware, likely leading to an electricity cost on par the 360 above.

On top of this the rental of a computer is required. This is $14.95 a month [ ]

In summary with have -
Console: $300 + $20.87 a month ($250.44 a year).
Cloud: $70 + $30.40 a month ($364.80 a year).

We now need to look at the life expectancy of each device and would the local Cloud device survive the regular hardware refreshes that happen in the console market. If we start simple and give both a life expectancy of five years then the total cost of the console is $1552.20 and the total cost of the Cloud is $1894.

If we now assume that the local Cloud device can survive the refresh, but the 360 is replaced then the future five-yearly costs of the console is $1552.20 (the full cost above) and the Cloud is $1824 (just the operating cost).

Games are the last part of the equation. The Cloud requires you to "buy" games on top of the monthly costs, or rent games without subscribing. Alas the costs of games on the service have not been released but I think they will be comparable with traditional outlets. I will revisit this post once the costs to buy are released.

OnLive will also support a rental model which does not require a subscription. The details of this will change the results of this.

1) I'm assuming in both cases the users want to use online aspects such as multiplayer gaming. So I will use a standard 8Mb broadband for both systems. The reality is a lower and cheaper 1Mb connection will be fine for online gaming on local console but the Cloud system will likely tax such a connection and instead want ASDL2+ or cable.
2) Gizmodo: Console Power Usage
3) Based on the yearly cost of $50 divided by 12.

User Journal

Journal Journal: WTF?!?!

Some people, I don't get them.

Me: "Please don't put the air con on too cold, I'm right under it"
Her: "Sure sure, but turn it off if it gets cold, but I'm getting no air up here"
AirCon: Temp: 19 deg, air speed: 0.

Stupid fucking people, why not put it on 24 deg, air speed high!


User Journal

Journal Journal: Gah IE sucks

Can't use Moz at work, IE sucks.

User Journal

Journal Journal: Any Bikers Follow on

Mmm, I think I've found the nearest to what I want: a restored 1969 Royal Enfield Diesel.

Bad points:
* Tis really slow (a cruising speed of about 40 mph; eak)
* Not cheap (£2500 for the base model, £2800 for the faster one)
Good points:
* Looks very much how I want (I like the 1960s bike-look, over the plastic speedy look, however I'm guess this will have some big negatives, like protection from the elements)
* If I run it on bio diesel should be CC-except, need to double check
* Should be tax except
* Economical


I've seen a few sites with elecy bikes, normally with the "not available yet", or shltty looking :( And one combine (not available yet)

User Journal

Journal Journal: Any Bikers?

Can you get either good-looking (& reasonable mileage) eleccy bikes[1], or (even better) duel/alternative fuel bikes? Bio diesel or the like?
The Congestion Charge in London is as much as a tube ticket but alt fuel and electric vehicles don't have to pay the Congestion Charge. :)

1] I'd pref. a bike over a Scooter.

User Journal

Journal Journal: Playing Doom3 with 32Mb of VRAM...

Is like putting Shakespeare by the babelfish, sure the ideas of core remain, but the joy disappeared.

I should treat myself to a new g/c.

User Journal

Journal Journal: *sigh* Not a happy bunny...

My g/f is very ill, and in so much pain, she is suicidal. As you can guess, this is Not Fun(TM). We took a trip to a dentist yesterday, and he is confident that he can fix her ills. Alas my g/f has now decided that nothing, at all, ever will help. No talking her around, all her teeth (most of which every dentist we've been to say just need basic dental work) should be ripped out.

It is getting me down. So much I've started smoking. How do you talk her round? I keep telling her to give it a few weeks, let the dentists try. Take the painkillers (which she almost refuses to take, as she has decided nothing, at all will work) and the antibiotics. No such luck.

I'm going to have a shit day, wondering round dentists, all telling her the same thing (no we shall rip out all your teeth, but I can do the root cannels for you...) and being charged £100 for the pleasure.

User Journal

Journal Journal: what is an acceptable fee for providing the source?

I've always wondered what is an acceptable fee when it comes to providing the source for a GPLed project. I've got a small OSS project. I don't offer a .zip/.tgz of the source, and anyone who asks for the source is pointed at the CVS. Every now and again you get someone who compains stating that my software is GPL'ed, and thus I must offer a .zip of the source. A quick explanention of what a CVS is, and a "please point me at the section of the GPL" shuts them up. But if I was feeling mean, what could I charge for a CD? I'm guessing it'll take me about an hour to head down ASDA and pick up a pack of CDs, and a CD writer (don't currently own). So £1 for the CD (a nice one, in a case), and £20 for the CD Writer. Divide the CD Writer between the expected number of sales (one). This will all be done in my free time, my overtime rate is ~£30 an hour. To go to ASDA & back takes 1hr, again divide by the number of expected sales (one), and it'll take ~1 hour to burn, pack and post. So thats £81, plus P&P. Is that acceptable? Guess we'll never know.

User Journal

Journal Journal: ack

My g/f is very ill, it is very difficult to live with. Tis really not pleasent, when someoneyou love is in so much pain.

User Journal

Journal Journal: In defence of XHTML 1.0 Transitional as text/html

I did write a mini-rant on defending sending XHTML 1.0 as text/html, but I've scraped it.

I'm currently sending xhtml as text/html only to browsers that don't support it. But I'm thinking of changing to add a xhtml to html xslt.

Why keep as xhtml then I hear you cry, well I also want to support mobile phones. I'm thinking of also sending a low-bandwidth version to devices which send app/wap first.

Slashdot Top Deals

You're using a keyboard! How quaint!