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Comment Yes, protect the dwindling tech industry (Score 0) 400

Tech wages are falling like a rock. There are no jobs in tech! We must do something about the millions of poor tech workers who are being paid very low six figures and have unemployment rates of 3-4%! Please, Trump, end this victimization of our tech industry by high skilled visa programs!

Comment Re:Hard to put a finger on it... (Score 1) 587

Do your domestic developers have equity? If not, they don't have any more incentive to care about your business than your contracting partner. The cost of finding another job is similar to the cost of finding another customer. And employees get unemployment compensation. Salaried employees don't have much skin in the game.

Comment Re:Difference in work product (Score 2) 587

This is pretty close to correct. But tech folks like to pretend that the split is domestic vs foreign. Sorry, but most domestic tech talent is not competent. Outsourcing occurs because foreign incompetent talent is far cheaper than domestic competent talent, and management needs are similar. Meanwhile, there is a cutthroat bidding war for competent domestic talent, which is in seriously short supply.

Comment This is a brilliant question (Score 1) 587

Tech workers who have been in the field for long enough are unable to analyze it like you have. You are detecting a market issue. Partly, wages are sticky. For jobs where this is the problem, you see complaints about outsourcing and H1-Bs. Secondly, the market is actually extremely tight for competent domestic tech workers, and employers are in a constant bidding war for these few folks. This bleeds into the majority of less-than-competent domestic tech folks through a number of mechanisms, including employers lowering the bar on unfilled positions with salary range already set, dumb employers being unable to differentiate between competent and incompetent, etc.

The answer to your question is that it is a temporary distortion. I don't have a crystal ball, so I don't claim to know how it plays out. But these high wages for less than competent domestic tech staff is not sustainable.

Comment Re:Don't worry guys... (Score 1) 414

I don't know why you or ComputerWorld brought the H1-B visa program into this. This is conflating two issues. Outsourcing a function of your company to another company is a business-to-business transaction and does not require any employees of the outsourcing provider to be eligible to work in the United States on a visa basis or any other basis. The ComputerWorld lists a number of activities of the IT function that have matured to the point of mcdonaldization and require less skill. But wages are sticky and ratcheting -- current employees are unlikely to take lower pay, and the domestic market takes a while to adjust downward as well.

We outsourced our IT support functions to a local firm in our city. This is all they do, and their processes and ability to staff for average ticket volume across all their customers meant they provide better service at lower cost than our internal IT support. It is also a lot easier to manage -- and if needed, replace -- a vendor than employees.

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