But still, the question remains why not have it rubber stamped from the very beginning? Why do you need that apparent stop gap?

This is not true. Because whatever your personal motivations, the mathematical result of you not voting is that you are voting for whatever majority comes out in the end. And because only a minority voted against Donald Trump, a majority either voted directly for him or was ready to accept his election win.

From the center of the mass.

That is exactly what it meant. Regulation (from Latin rex = king) means: per the King's law. Or as Wiktionary has it: Borrowed from Latin regulatus, perfect passive participle of regul (“to direct, rule, regulate”) (see -ate (verb-forming suffix)), from regula (“rule”), from reg (“to keep straight, direct, govern, rule”).

You can do the calculations yourself. To break apart, a rotating object has to reach its escape velocity at its outer perimeter. Otherwise, the gravity would pull back anything that was trying to break apart. A black hole by definition has all its mass within its event horizon, and the event horizon is defined as the surfaces where the escape velocity equals the speed of light. That means that a black hole would have to rotate so fast that its equator surpasses the speed of light to break apart.

But in the case of the UK, it's a simple logging device. It does not hamper the operation of the car it is connected to. If it fails, the insurance company has no data. But the driver can still start the car.

This would actually be an improvement, as now, a car is occupied by two people instead of one, reducing overall traffic.

I hate all of this sales pressure BS - that the instant anyone hears your name you have to try to "convert" them to sales - and I literally run a webstore.

It's all so deeply anti-consumer, and I want no part in it.

Nebulously talking about known problems without naming them just shows you don't know the problems or won't enumerate them in fear of sounding ridiculous.

If I have my own source of electricity not relying on the grid, then that is my decision. If it makes business sense, why should I forego it? If it satisfies me as a hobby project, why should I abandon it? If the utility wants to pay me for my leftover electricity, why not sell it to the utility? This is none of your concern.

And the alleged problems for bird life are about the same than each single tree on the landscape. Yes, birds sometimes hit trees, because either they have misjudged their trajectory from the start (birds can be clumsy too), or because a sudden gust of wind blew them away. I sometimes find birds knocked unconsciously on our terrace, because they flew against the wall. Shit happens. To make this a problem of wind turbines is just arbitrarily and selectively projecting blame.

Even in a minimal setup right now, you need three: ignition/fuel injection management, battery management and managing the drive train between internal combustion engine and electric motor.

A lot of those computers are necessary to squeeze out the required efficiency of the car, both in mileage and in reduced exhaust pollution. It would be far more expensive to try to recreate the same with purely mechanics and fluid dynamics. Imagine recreating the functionality of the motor chip with something else! You would either have a very simple setup, which can only be tuned for a narrow range of conditions, and everything else sucks. Or what you need in a car would dwarf anything in a mechanical clock with ten complications. And for all the riding comfort, you won't be able to recreate it anyway. Electronics are the cheapest way to control a car.

A typical modern gasoline engine consists of about 1300 parts. But it allows your car to get 200 hp from a 2.5 liter engine without your mileage dropping being below 10 mpg, and without your engine blowing up after 40,000 miles, or you having to replace the cylinder gaskets every 5000 miles. You can have a look at American cars of the Malaise era to get an idea how a low electronic car would look like, 3 liter six cylinders barely getting above 90 hp.

Chinese EVs (and similar Korean cars) cost the equivalent of $10,000 in China. That they sell for $25,000 or $30,000 in Europe is due to the adaptation to European standards, of the cost of getting them licensed in Europe, and because of tariffs.

Apparently, the quality of Chinese EVs is quite o.k.. I've recently seen several Chinese EV converted into cabs, and those get high mileage and high usage. If the base car was crap, they won't last long.

Here lies a big illusion: The Resistance does not exist. This is not Star Wars. This is Iran. There are many factions here, and one faction, Shiite technocrates, is currently on top. Women, Kurds, Baloch people, Azeris, Sunnites, Parses all have their own set of priorities and gripes. Sunnites probably won't allow women any more rights than the current elite. Azeris won't cooperate with Kurds, mirroring their conflict in Türkiye. Baloch people, being an ethnic minority, want their own autonomous region, but being only 2% of the population, won't find any supporters in other factions. Parses and Bahai are not Muslims, so they are viewed with distrust by everyone else. And those groups are not even mutually exclusive. There are Azeri women and Sunnite women. Most Kurds are Sunnites, but most Azeris are Shiites, in line with the Persian majority, and a huge part of the Azeris are aligned with the current regime. Azeris probably would support the Pahlavi crown prince, but Kurds would not, having had bad experiences with the old Shah.

On the other hand, a lot of people belong to the ruling faction, and a big part of that are owners and managers of a large part of the economy, and they have a lot to lose if conditions change.

Firstly, I see you have this notion that martian rocks must all be igneous.

You're not talking about rock, you're talking about regolith.

Depending on where the regolith is sourced

Regolith is not "sourced", it's blown across the whole planet. It's not simply "whatever the underlying strata is made out of".

But, since we are playing 'name the ignorance' in this exchange, your attestation stat perchlorate is 0.5% liberatable oxygen says 'Say i'm ignorant of basic chemistry without saying i'm ignorant of basic chemistry, and am bad at reading too.' The 0.5% statistic comes from the publication at bottom, and is the proportion of the regolith that is perchlorates.

I am the one who mentioned that regolith is 0.5% perchlorates, not that "perchlorates are 0.5% oxygen". *facepalm*

"Saying we'll get oxygen from the 0,5-1% of a poison in martian regolith, rather than bulk ice or CO2, is..."

For God's sake, learn to fucking read.

Washing the regolith to remove the perchlorate is a requirement for *any* other use of that regolith

Which is why you shouldn't be celebrating its existence. It is a problematic contaminant, not a resource.

As you have rightly pointed out, the water ice on mars is more 'frozen mud'. Cleaning the melt is going to be a necessary first step to using it *regardless*. That means either vacuum distillation, thermal distillation, or reverse osmosis filtration. Again, NOT OPTIONAL. This is necessary equipment that you need to bring, regardless.

And this just to get water, the most basic of offworld resources. And all of that equipment (especially the mining hardware itself) requires maintenance and spare parts, which impose more dependencies. And the TRL for use on Mars is low regardless.

You've gone from talking up the ease of operating on Mars to talking it down, yet your self-righteousness hasn't shifted at all in the process.

RO filtration is the least energy intensive of these.

Except, it isn't. 0,5-1% perchlorates. RO typically removes 90-95% of perchlorates. So you're down to ~500ppm. Human safety levels** are in the low parts per billion. You're five orders of magnitude off. Yes, you can purify water that far - and the more perchlorates, the easier - but you're talking an over millionfold reduction. It is not at all trivial. You're talking first RO to get it down to levels where it won't hinder bacterial growth, then bioreactor bacterial remediation, then filtration, then RO, then ion exchange. This is not some little, simple system.

** Plants can tolerate much more perchlorates than humans, but they also bioaccumulate perchlorates of exposed to them, so you have to reduce the water to low ppb levels.

The end products are clean water and perchlorate contaminated mud, and clean mud, with contaminated water.

Viola! *eyeroll*

And your "plan" for dealing with waste perchlorate doesn't just magically produce pure O2 and NaCl in the real world. First off, molten sodium perchlorate, which is what it becomes before it decomposes, is an extremely corrosive oxidizer. Exactly what are you planning to make the furnace out of, platinum? Secondly, you never get perfect decomposition. Apart from residual perchlorates, you have residual sodium chlorate, which is also corrosive, and is a literal herbicide. And your gas stream will contain contaminant chloride and chlorine dioxide, which, news flash, you don't want to breathe.

There is no way on Earth anyone would ever prefer this to just conducting electrolysis on the water that you've already purified.

Hollywood has produced several decades of movies which insult a not small demographic group part of the potential movie going public.

They have picked a new set of negative stereotypes to repeatedly use.