Just say what you mean.
Democrats are the party of the wealthy now, btw.
https://politicalsciencenow.co...

The online stuff all comes from the same Chinese manufacturers. Order it direct instead of paying more to an American billionaire. You'll pay the tariffs either way, I assure the billionaires aren't covering them out of their markup.

The Left assumes the Right is just the same sort of Cult of Personality that they themselves are, just on the other side.*

*(Sadly, as an old school conservative, I'm actually just as or more troubled by the what-we-formerly-called-neoCons and activist Republicans who DO act just like Dems just marching behind a different flag, cf the FCC/Kimmel thing I think is a conservative own-goal because it is asinine the US gov't is 'weighing in' on the content of some mid-talent late night show with like 120k viewers. Likewise most of Trump's bombast just gets in the way of what he's trying to do.)

They don't realize the Left and the Right FUNDAMENTALLY see the relationship to power differently, in a different framework, and with an entirely different context.

I know the global climate change strawman is pretty much everywhere. I've been fighting you morons on this for 30 years since IPCC 2. That's back when they left their sources online - eg tree ring data - so I could gophur it, throw the raw data into excel and see there was NO SUCH TREND as discussed.

"Climate is changing" well yes it's always changed
"but now it's warming" yes we're coming out of an interglacial, duh?
"no, HUMANS are causing this" they really aren't; the climb of temperature is basically identical in scope, slope, and timing to the previous 30x-40x spikes we've seen in paleoclimate reconstructions every 120k-ish years for around the last 4 million years. Temp spikes, then settles back to a rough norm.
"(increasingly shrill) THIS TIME IT'S PEOPLE you fascist!" well, now you have to explain a) how you can discern this is different from one of those, b) where the previous usual expected spike went, and c) how the earth's climate systems that responded to the previous repeat events won't do exactly the same thing.
"grr but 97% of climate scientists agree!" that's been debunked so many times I'm not bothering to do it again. How curious that people who make their living and gov't grants from declaring the sky is falling, insist that indeed, the sky is falling.
"fuck you nazi" yeah, right back at you.

The funny thing is I *absolutely* agree that human activity is very likely increasing the warming to some degree, or if not that, it's probable that a longer steady warming over centuries was suppressed by heavy particulate load from the industrial revolution; our SUCCESS at (and economic changes) clearing/reducing particulates has resulted in the system 'rebounding' likely appearing to be sudden warming.
I also agree it's stupid to shit where you eat, and we absolutely need to work on stronger efforts to clean water, clean air, and a cleaner environment wherever possible.

I just think that this whole discussion is a bullshit trend that the ecomarxists and left have barnacled onto and my failing to genuflect to their Catastrophist Creed and Holy CO2 Ghost marks me as an apostate. (shrug) I don't give a shit.

Is that ELI5 for you? I don't expect to change your mind but occasionally I like to lay it out there on the ridiculously small chance someone other than you reads it.

You dumb fuck already complained that "I was only talking about a study of northern cities" so it's a little hard to claim that you don't know precisely what data I was referring to.

Although I will agree you're pretty convincing at playing stupid.

Awful.

Worse, EVEN IF YOU CHANGE THE SETTINGS the shit will just revert at some random patch in the future (not every one, so you can't get into the habit of always fixing it...).

I'm an idiot, so I've now made the mistake out of perhaps weird optimism TWICE: trying to disable onedrive (or limit it), /as well as/ trying to move things like my documents and downloads folder OFF my superfast C system drive (ssd) and onto the gigantic 3+ tb data drive and both systems are a ficking mess of where files actually are. I now have 'documents' folders on BOTH drives, some of which are apparently onedriving to the cloud, I ...think? We just wiped and restored a system and lost a bunch of tax files because my wife said 'oh those are in the docs folder on that system' so copied the whole docs folder to a big usb for later review...only to discover AFTER the system was reformatted and win11 installed that those files were apparently in the OTHER 'docs folder'. Sigh.

Fuck off with the "AI everything".

I can't do a fucking decent Boolean query of my outlook emails.
Excel combo drop-downs still don't even recognize the mouse wheel.
There are probably 100 things with MS Office that I would suggest fixing before you fucking bolt on a not-really-Al, thanks.

Oh, and onedrive is fucking cancer.
So is teams.

So present other data, you tendentious chud.

Neither is the earth getting meaningfully warmer outside of what would expect coming out of an interglacial, but that doesn't stop you saying stupid shit, does it?

Sorry about that basic reading comprehension.
Maybe go back to reddit/bluesky? Echochambers tend to use simpler, in-group signaling like chimps, instead of words so much.

If corals are going to go totally extinct in the next century or two due to a degree or three (c) of warming, how is it that they as a species have lasted HUNDREDS of millions of years, most of which were several degrees warmer than today?

And don't talk about "speed of change" - corals have likewise survived (and frankly thrived) major extinction events for the last half-BILLION years that were EXTREMELY, traumatically short & intense, such as Chixiclub (66mya) which warmed the earth by +5C for more than 100k years. This makes the puny 1deg C global warming for a century laughably trivial.

Extreme cold kills 7x-20x the people that extreme heat does every year.

Why are we fixated on heat deaths only? Why not work to mitigate all extreme temperature deaths?

They've got global warming, COVID, Trump, and all sorts of things to be terrified about besides the usual predation, poachers, and leopards.

Maybe leave them the fuck alone on this one.

Yes, of course the reason the US space program is struggling is because it's actually enforcing the law re illegals, not because the previous administration tried to import millions of future voters.

And of course it has to do with the current president, not the decade+ previous administration(s) where the STATED primary mission of our space program was "Muslim outreach" and lately diversity*. Not to mention the $billions wasted (and nigh-hilariously) /failing/ to replicate a launch vehicle design that's essentially 60 years old?

*Notice the Artemis program name, and that it had a diverse crew before it had even basic mission parameters or a functioning launch vehicle? What was their first publicly stated goal, again? To put a woman on the moon? Is that how a pure meritocracy should work, you announce desired characteristics of your "best" before they're chosen?

Finally, the "seeming lunatic who is destroying our Democracy" is the only guy aggressively funding and accomplishing advances in launch programs?

Thanks, fully agree.
Somehow, my post was downranked to -1 Troll, I guess?