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Submission + - Amazon Vine Review Recasts 'Coding Kids' Exposé as Learn-to-Code Primer for 1

theodp writes: "Amazon Vine," the e-tailer explains, "is an invitation-only program which selects the most insightful reviewers in the Amazon store to serve as Vine Voices. Vine Voices have the unique opportunity to order items free of charge and share their product experiences with Amazon customers to help them make informed buying decisions. [...] When customers see a review with the special Vine badge, they can trust that they're getting an honest, unbiased opinion from a real customer just like them."

So, how well does the reality live up to the promise? In the case of the new book Coding Kids: Big Tech's Battle to Remake Public Schools, not so much. Described by the publisher as "the inside story of how Big Tech catalyzed, co-opted, and ultimately came to capture computer science and AI education in America" ("Fourth graders doing Google-branded coding lessons. Amazon schooling seventh graders on its warehouse robots. Advanced Placement computing courses from Microsoft and Apple."), the top review selected by Amazon informs customers that the book is a 'good introduction to coding.'

"I really enjoyed Coding Kids," writes the 'trusted' Amazon Vine reviewer. "What stood out to me most was how the book takes something that can sound complicated—computer coding—and makes it feel approachable and even fun. As I was reading it, I found myself thinking that this is exactly the kind of book that could help a child become interested in technology without feeling overwhelmed by it. I particularly liked the way it encourages kids to be curious, experiment, and solve problems on their own. That was probably my favorite part because it shows that coding isn’t just about computers—it’s also about creativity and learning how to think differently. I would definitely recommend Coding Kids to parents, grandparents, or teachers looking for a good introduction to coding. I came away from the book thinking that it could genuinely spark a child’s interest in technology and give them the confidence to explore something new."

While likely just another example of Hanlon's Razor ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."), the recasting of an investigative nonfiction book that casts a critical eye at Amazon's influence on K-12 education as a learn-to-code primer for children doesn't exactly instill trust in the Amazon Vine program or Amazon's 'Top Reviews' selection process. More on-point book reviews of Coding Kids can be found at the Washington Independent Review of Books ("Turns out, Silicon Valley isn’t especially altruistic.") and Science ("Big Tech’s crusade to get kids coding is more self-interested than it first appears").

Comment Re:Loss of pulse detection? (Score 1) 21

Let me know when all this heart rate monitoring can do loss-of-pulse detection and call emergency services if I have a heart attack.

I can't tell whether that's a joke, but the Google Pixel 3 smart watch has "recently" (June, 2025) received FDA clearance for "loss of pulse" feature. Seems like there would be a lot of false positives if the watch is either too tight or not tight enough, but maybe not.

Not a joke. I'm aware of that feature, and that's why I said it. No idea about false positives.

Comment Re:I'm kind of disappointed in the article (Score 1) 2

Can't do a book full justice in a brief Slashdot post, but she actually does go back and cover how Apple entered schools in the 80s in a chapter entitled 'From Tom Edison to Sam Altman.' She goes back even further into the history of tech and schools, including how Thomas Edison promised that movies would revolutionize education and replace textbooks - "They'll do all the teaching by moving pictures, all of it" he told the NY Times in 1912 - not unlike the current promises being made about AI.

Submission + - Journalist Calls Out 'Collective Amnesia' of Schools' Romance with Big Tech 2

theodp writes: The74 reports that in her new book, Coding Kids: Big Tech's Battle to Remake Public Schools ("the inside story of how Big Tech catalyzed, co-opted, and ultimately came to capture computer science and AI education in America"), Natasha Singer, a veteran business reporter for The New York Times, traces Big Tech's bid to persuade schools to embrace their products, with industry-sponsored curricula and tools growing at astonishing speed.

In his book review of Coding Kids , Aran Shetterly begins with a Spoiler Alert: "Turns out, Silicon Valley isn’t especially altruistic." He writes, "At the center of her book is the story of the nonprofit Code.org and its charismatic, Harvard-educated leader, Hadi Partovi. Thirteen years ago, Partovi produced a five-minute video called “What Most Schools Don’t Teach.” This 'audacious act of Silicon Valley influencer marketing...aimed...at a low-resourced nonprofit sector: public schools serving millions of children,' delivered a worrying message: Kids who didn’t learn to write code would be left behind. And the long-term success of the United States economy depended on training these students to fill a million open tech jobs. [...] No word in Coding Kids chills more than 'democratize.' 'Democratizing' sounds a lot like 'democracy,' but the tech-elite byword has nothing to do with a form of government; from the lips of the tech barons, it means enforcing ubiquitous access to their products."

Fast-forward to 2026, and now we're dealing with AI, and tech is reading from a similar playbook. Asked by The74's Greg Toppo, "Does this moment seem different to you?", Singer replies, "This moment is different, but also similar. We are in a moment in society where a lot of people have increased distrust of these huge tech companies, and we see a wave of parents pushing back against tech in schools. [...] We have had these cycles of tech in schools where there are all these promises about the latest tech, laptops, learning apps, massive open online courses, virtual reality, big data's going to revolutionize schools and like democratize access to education for kids and get them these great career skills, and we keep having these cycles. My concern is that we don't learn anything. One of the reasons I wrote this book is because it feels like we have collective amnesia. Now we're in the sixth or eighth cycle of this — and shouldn't we be asking questions about the push for AI in schools, based on what we've learned about the push for all the other things that came before?"

Comment Re:It's a for profit business (Score 1) 87

It's a for profit business, how much control can even the Aussie Nannie state want. Unless they can prove that curating the feed is "harmful" shouldn't the customers decide what they want by voting with their $$$/Presence?

Here's the flaw in your logic. The vast majority of their customers WANT to turn this s**t off. But they put up with it up to a point or they don't. Either way, it doesn't matter as long as there are enough people who are engagement junkies who eat it up and therefore drive up ad impressions. They could lose 90% of their users, and if the other 10% increase their usage 10x, they're still ahead...

... but while the company may be ahead in that situation, society is still harmed by the other 90% not having access to a usable service. And of course, not all of those 90% will jump ship. Many will suffer silently while being harassed relentlessly by garbage posts by creators that they think you'll "enjoy".

I wholeheartedly agree that while algorithmic feeds are fine, there MUST be an opt out, and it cannot be like Facebook's "Most Recent" sort that disappears on its own every week or so. No matter how many times you tell them what they want, they shovel whatever s**t they want. It has reached the point where I almost never go on there anymore, because instead of being able to interact with the contents from my friends and groups that I follow, I'm constantly getting bombarded with mostly garbage posts and ads, with less than a 1:10 signal-to-noise ratio.

Please force them to do this, and to all the other governments of the world, please do likewise.

Submission + - Los Angeles Public School System Bans Most AI for Students

theodp writes: The Los Angeles public school system will vastly restrict the use of AI at all grade levels, reported the NY Times and others. The news of the ban — which oddly had to be coaxed out of LAUSD employees (YouTube) at a meeting of the LAUSD School Board Generative AI Ad Hoc Committee — stunningly came as a complete surprise to both the LAUSD Board and K-12 AI usage protestors (the employees were unable to answer a Board member's question about what LAUSD's policy was on schoolwork done using AI on students' personal devices). It comes shortly after New York City announced it would ban most AI through 8th grade. Both developments seem to respond to an extraordinary movement, driven by parents, to push back against the incursion of technology and screens into childhood. The new AI restrictions will apply for the current school year, as a board committee considers how to potentially incorporate the technology in the future.

For several years, the Times notes, debates over technology have roiled LAUSD, the nation’s second-largest, with over half a million students. Its former superintendent, Alberto Carvalho, was an AI booster who sought to develop the district’s own AI chatbot ("Ed") for students. But the small start-up company Carvalho selected to lead that project had little experience in generative AI, and its CEO was later indicted on charges that she had defrauded investors. Carvalho resigned from the district in June after the FBI searched his home and offices in a related investigation. Following his resignation, Carvalho was scrubbed from the Leadership page ("Visionaries driving our impact") of the tech-backed nonprofit CodeAI, where Carvalho was a Board member. CodeAI was known as Code.org until last June, when it rebranded itself as CodeAI in a pivot to AI literacy that was publicly encouraged by the leaders of its deep-pocketed tech giant corporate donors, including Microsoft President Brad Smith and Google CEO Sundar Pichai, who pledged to help fund the move.

This week's AI moratorium announcement by LAUSD would seem to be a setback for Microsoft, who a year ago used LAUSD as its AI Poster Child as it boasted it was bringing AI literacy and skilling to students and educators across the US, including using its partnerships with Code.org and Code.org's TeachAI initiative to provide AI literacy and skilling for all of LAUD's 409,000 students. LAUSD was a big booster of Code.org's inaugural Hour of AI last December, which received funding from Microsoft and replaced the nonprofit's flagship Hour of Code event as the nonprofit pivoted to AI. It also seems a setback for CodeAI, as the LA and NYC AI moratoriums cast doubt over whether the nonprofit's new AI curriculum and flagship Hour of AI event will be welcome in the nation's two biggest school districts for at least the 2026-27 year (coincidentally, the NBA announced this week that CodeAI $10+ million donor Steve Ballmer is facing his own 2026-27 suspension!). Code.org and its tech partners rapidly gained traction for pushing coding into classrooms with its first Hour of Code in 2013, which was bolstered by high-profile announcements of Code.org partnerships with some of the nation's largest school districts, including New York City and Chicago. So, will the AI backlash slow their efforts to do the same with AI?

Comment Re:Apple has an advertising ecosystem? (Score 1) 24

I don't know what identifiers Apple actually uses, but if there is any truth to that, then yeah, it's hypocritical.

It's also at least *mostly* academic. If Apple charges only for actual clicks, rather than impressions, then the cost to the advertiser is arguably the same whether the targeting is good or not. The only difference is the cost to Apple itself.

I would assume the main signal that Apple has is whether the user already has the app installed and/or has previously tried the app and deleted it. And while I understand why app developers would *like* to be able to know every app you have installed so that they can't show ads for it, Apple stopped letting them do that a long time ago for good reason. It's a *huge* privacy impact.

If Apple could come up with a privacy-protecting way to help app developers filter ads that are irrelevant based on installations and other factors without revealing to the app developer what exact apps are installed, I think a lot of users would consider that to be a win, because the ads we endure would at least be slightly less absurd.

But there is no rational universe in which someone can reasonably argue that it is anticompetitive to use the fact that you know that you already sold someone a product to avoid telling them to buy that product, or at least not without arguing that the existence of a single store is itself anticompetitive (which it is, but that's an orthogonal problem).

Comment Re:Apple has an advertising ecosystem? (Score 1) 24

They've been running ads in the app store since 2016.

Well, yeah, but that's ads running in an entirely closed ecosystem. I guess in a silly way, you could argue that in-app ads with tracking disabled are less effective, and App Store ads provide another way to get eyes on apps, so it kind of competes, but that's like saying that Special Rollback Deal signs inside an individual Walmart store compete with Google AdSense. It's technically correct, but not particularly interesting.

Put another way, I can't imagine that any significant number of people who, prior to the do-not-track rules, used to think that in-app ads were targeted well enough are suddenly thinking that targeting is bad because of those do-not-track restrictions. In-app ads are all too horribly targeted across the board for such a thing to be plausible. And the increase in the number of people choosing to use their ad dollars for App Store category promotion over in-app advertising because of those tracking rules is probably even smaller, if it is even nonzero.

I'm not saying that no judge could possibly find that such claims have merit, because there's always somebody who doesn't understand things who will rule in your favor if you venue shop hard enough, but I am saying that IMO, the claims have little to no merit, at least on the surface, and that Apple's DNT rules A. are likely required by law for European compliance anyway and B. have a legitimate public interest that massively overshadows any mostly hypothetical and negligibly sized anticompetitive impact.

Comment Apple has an advertising ecosystem? (Score 0) 24

Since when does Apple have an advertising ecosystem? I mean, I know there was that brief iAd disaster, but that's been dead for a decade now.

Is competing with the absence of something a problem from an antitrust perspective? If so, explain why, and how intrusive advertising benefits users, rather than app developers.

I'm with Apple on this one. Squarely.

Comment Re:My Experience (Score 2) 189

The AI is WAY smarter than me most of the time and has allowed 20x productivity and done things I’d never had the patience to learn, like front end dev. The cost of code has gone to almost zero.

Yes and no. With AI tools, people who know nothing about a code base have a much faster path to making small changes — the kind of changes where someone familiar with the code base could review it in thirty seconds, but could also make the change in thirty seconds if they had time. AI massively increases velocity at the fringes.

But for more complicated changes, in many cases, having AI write the code can cause the author to spend almost as long reviewing the changes as it would have taken to write them, because gaining adequate understanding of the code and paging back in memory of how things work would normally have occurred during the natural course of writing the code, a little as a time, and would have been a decent percentage of the time spent writing the code. When reviewing code written by someone else, you're back-loading that work at review time.

And it also introduces some added risk, because if your code reviewer doesn't know that the change was written by a bot and assumes that you already put the time into making sure it was mostly correct, their review might be more cursory, because they may not take the time to think about all of those details. So if you as the code submitter don't do this, the code quality may suffer severely.

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