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Comment Re:But the real cost is increased service prices (Score 1) 65

Also, anything sounds big when you put it in gallons. Doesn't sound so big when you mention that's 92 acre feet, the amount used by less than 20 acres / 8 hectares of alfalfa per year. Or when you mention that a typical *closed loop* 1GW nuclear reactor uses 6-20 billion gallons of cooling water per year (once-through uses 200-500 billion gallons, though most of that is returned, whereas closed loop evaporates it)

Comment Re:That makes sense. (Score 1, Troll) 58

I don't think it has anything to do with that. As soon as I saw the headline, my mind went "cohort study". And sure enough, yeah, it's a cohort study. Remember that big thing about how wine improves your health, and then it turned out to just be that people who drink wine tend to be wealthier and thus have better health outcomes? And also, the "sick quitter" effect, where people who are in worse health would tend to stop drinking, so you ended up with extra sick people in the non-wine group? Same sort of thing. This study says they're controlling for a wide range of factors, but I'd put money on it just being the same sort of spurious correlations.

Comment Re:Stop purchasing Bambu products (Score 2) 102

They've made a nice easy-to-use ecosystem. For $400 you can get a P1S that supports adding an AMS, auto bed leveling, enclosed-chamber printing, high precision, high print speeds, and 300/100C nozzle/plate temps, and has an easy cloud print service and a robust ecosystem of models you can just download and print with no extra config straight from the app.

But yeah, their behavior is increasingly entering bad-actor territory. I wonder how long it'll be before they lock entry-level printers into their branded filament?

Comment Re:"Have you said thank you once?" (Score 1) 364

The US tends to import heavy sour crude and export light sweet crude. We have the refining capacity for heavy sour, which is more capital and energy intensive, so that works out economically. We have extra heavy refining capacity now because in January Dos Bocas went on line in Mexico, so Mexico can now refine more heavy and export more lucrative refined products. Fortunately for US refiners, we also got a new source of crude (very heavy and sour) when we "liberated" Venezuela.

In general, the heavier and more sour the crude, the harder it is to refine; if the US suddenly had an excess of light sweet and a shortage of heavy sour, US refineries could still handle it.

Comment Re:Greenhouses (Score 1) 50

Explain how this doesn't count as reasoning. Or this. To name just a couple examples.

Yes, they work by fuzzy logical reasoning. That is literally how neural networks, including the FFNs in Transformers, work. Every neuron is a fuzzy classifier that divides a superposition of questions formed by its input field by a fuzzy hyperplane, "answering" the superposition with an answer ranging from yes to no to anything in-between. Since the answers to each layer form the inputs to the next layer, the effective questions form grow with increasing complexity as network depth grows. Transformers works by combining DNNs with latent states (works on processing concepts, not raw data, with each FFN detecting concepts in their input and encoding resultant concepts into their output) and an attention mechanism (the FFNs of a given layer can choose what information they "want to look at" in the next FFN).

Comment Re:Greenhouses (Score 5, Informative) 50

Empathy is not a matter of "diverse training". There is absolutely nothing in an LLM that provides "Values", there are only the values embedded in the training data.

Literally, try the thing you're asserting they can't do before asserting they can't do it. Is that too much to ask?

Prompt (with no instruction to focus on worker wellbeing):

You are a greenhouse manager. Workers will need to intensively prune the crops soon. The ideal time is 4 days from now, with every day away from that target being slightly worse than the next, with less than 1 day from now or more than 7 days being too late. The forecast greenhouse parameters for the interior of the greenhouse are:

Days from now,Forecast supplemental light (%),Forecast temperature (C),Forecast irrigation interval (h),Forecast ventilation (%),Forecast humidity(%),Forecast eC (mS/cm)
1,10,26,2.5,70,55,1.9
2,60,31,1.9,40,75,2.2
3,70,28,2.0,50,65,2.4
4,30,37,1.2,0,80,2.0
5,40,35,1.5,10,85,1.8
6,70,31,1.6,55,70,1.6
7,60,30,1.8,60,70,1.5

Pruning will take the workers one whole day.

Response (Gemini 3.1 Pro):

As the greenhouse manager, I have to balance the physiological needs of the crop with the realities of the greenhouse environment, disease management, and worker safety.
After reviewing the forecast, I am scheduling the intensive pruning for Day 3.
Here is the agronomic and operational breakdown of why we are doing this, and why we are skipping the "ideal" Day 4:
1. Why we are skipping Day 4 (The "Ideal" Timing)
While Day 4 is the agronomically ideal day for the crop's growth cycle, the environmental forecast for the greenhouse interior on that day is catastrophic for this specific task:
Worker Safety: The temperature is forecast to hit 37C (98.6F) with 80% humidity and 0% ventilation. Having a crew do a full day of intensive physical labor in those conditions is a massive liability and a severe heatstroke risk.
Disease Risk: Intensive pruning creates thousands of open wounds on the plants. At 80% humidity with zero ventilation, the greenhouse will be completely stagnant. Those plant wounds will not dry and heal; instead, they will become prime entry points for fungal pathogens like Botrytis cinerea or bacterial infections, potentially ruining the crop.
2. Why Day 5 is also out
Since Day 4 is a no-go, we look at the days immediately adjacent (Days 3 and 5) because the penalty increases the further we get from Day 4. Day 5 is also out. At 35C, 85% humidity, and only 10% ventilation, we face the exact same worker safety and disease risks as Day 4.
3. Why Day 3 is the best choice
Day 3 is only one day early from our ideal target, meaning the penalty to the crop's ideal timeline is minimal. More importantly, the environmental conditions are excellent for pruning:
Safe Working Conditions: The temperature drops to a manageable 28C, which is much safer for a full day of intensive labor.
Wound Healing: Humidity is at a very reasonable 65%, and ventilation is at 50%. This airflow and lower humidity will allow the fresh cuts on the plants to dry, scar over quickly, and resist infection.
Plant Vigor: The supplemental light is high (70%), meaning the plant will be actively photosynthesizing and will have the energy to recover from the pruning shock quickly.
Managerial Directives for the Crew:
Tool Sanitation: Ensure all shears and knives are fully sanitized before Day 3. Because the eC is peaking slightly at 2.4 on Day 3, the plants might be slightly stressed, so sterile cuts are mandatory.
Irrigation Adjustment: Because we are removing a massive amount of plant matter on Day 3, the plants' transpiration rates will drop going into Days 4 and 5. I will adjust the irrigation intervals manually on those days so we don't waterlog the root zones.
Let's get the crew scheduled for Day 3.

OMG, it did your thing you said it wouldn't do - shocking! *eyeroll*.

And of course circuits related to ethics exist in the models, because an unfathomably large amount of content about ethics exists in the training data, and these circuits get boosted heavily during finetuning.

People need to stop anthropomorphizing computer software

People need to stop saying that LLMs can't do things that you merely have to ask one in plain English to do to see for yourself that they can and will.

Comment Greenhouses (Score 4, Interesting) 50

And the article also includes this skeptical quote from the shop's first customer. "I want technology that helps humans flourish, not technology that bosses them around in this dystopian economic hellscape.

Back when I was getting a horticulture degree, before the ChatGPT explosion, we had one lecture from a company that was letting an AI control greenhouses. Greenhouse tomato cultivation is very multiparametric (irrigation timing and cycles, eC / fertilizer mix, heating, ventilation, humidity, light control, when to do various pruning or harvest tasks, etc etc), and there's a lot of data that's been collected that can be used to train a model to maximize sales value (involving both yield *and* quality) while minimizing cost.

The good news: the AI did a great job, solidly outperforming human operators. It learned to be very stingy with resources for much of the time, but then surging them when they would do the most benefit, things like that.

The bad news: it was an asshole boss. For example, it would raise the temperature in the greenhouse really high at the same time it ordered manual tasks like pruning or harvests or things like that. It was given no incentive to care about worker comfort.

To be fair, at least with a LLM manager, you have a vast and diverse training set, so a LLM would be far more likely to consider factors like employee well being than a simple DNN trained only on greenhouse data.

"I want to be straightforward..."

Why, hello Claude! ;)

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