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Comment Re:Fair point (Score 1) 494

No, I know exactly the opposite.

So where is the evidence of Bill Clinton's sexual assaults? Are you sure it's not the same unsubstantiated claims?

Be a man and give us the actual evidence.

Personally, I tend to believe women who say they've been assaulted. That's why I'm voting for the candidate who did not commit sexual assault.

Comment Re:Fair point (Score 1) 494

What we don't have any evidence of is the actual attack.

Ah, good. You do know there's also no evidence of any "actual attacks" by Bill Clinton, right? Lewinsky was consensual, by her own testimony.

Now we're finally getting down to business. Either we believe women or we don't. Juanita Broderick came foward twenty years after she claimed Bill Clinton attacked her. If you want to take sexual assault off the table for both candidates, I'm all for that. People have already made up their minds about Bill and Donald, anyway. All this stuff is baked into the cake.

Comment Re:OMG that's a dodgy check (Score 3, Interesting) 286

Depends what they get for that money, doesn't it? If it helps them keep doing business with the US instead of getting called on human rights abuses, it doesn't look like a great deal.

Saudis have been doing business in the US for a long long time. One owns a big chunk of Fox News, for example. Here is another:


I don't remember you clutching your pearls over homosexuals being hanged back then. Why is that?

Comment Re:Fair point (Score 1) 494

The most they can corroborate is that "Stoynoff said Trump attacked her"

You miss something. Stoynoff told them Trump attacked her, at the time Trump attacked her. At very least, it sets to bed the notion that she only made up the story now because of the election. At the time of Trump's sexual assault on Stoynoff, there was no indication that he was going to ever run for president. In fact, at the time, the very notion would have seemed ridiculous.

"Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years, says she got a call from her friend the day after the attack. Stoynoff detailed everything about the attack, from Trump pushing her against a wall to the business mogul showing up at her massage appointment the following day, she says.

According to Grasic, her longtime friend was embarrassed and even thought of Trump’s then-pregnant wife when deciding not to come forward about the encounter."


“She was particularly concerned that if he was capable of such behavior, what else was he capable of? Certainly character assassination by a powerful man was of great concern to her, which seems warranted in light of what Trump is saying about her this week. She ultimately decided to stay quiet but be taken off the Trump beat.”

Stoynoff’s former journalism professor, Paul McLaughlin, says that the writer called him in tears looking for advice the very night of the harrowing encounter. However, he cautioned her to remain quiet in fear of how Trump may retaliate.

A young writer doesn't ask to be taken off a cushy gig covering the rich and famous unless there's some problem.

Comment Re:OMG that's a dodgy check (Score -1) 286

Are 2 children helped in Africa helped by the Clinton Foundation worth the homosexual that was hung by some Saudis?

My Jesuit education tells me that the Saudis were going to hang that homosexual anyway. Taking their money and using it for some good is a gain. It's money that they can't use for buying fighters from American military contractors.

It's similar to the question of whether missionaries should help people in countries that are run by dictators. In one way, it helps the dictator, in many others, it helps actual people and their families who would just as soon not live in a dictatorship.

On the other hand, we now have top US evangelical leaders saying that Donald Trump sits on the Right Hand of God, so we need to take that into consideration vis-a-vis the moral choice for president.


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