"The only solution" is in fact, not the "only" solution.

The correct and LEGAL means for the police to gain access to the phone is to take it and seal it in a tamperproof container (aka electronic Faraday Evidence Bag), go to a court and ask for a warrant to search the contents.

We have established LAW and procedures for the state to gain access to the device. It is inconvenient ON PURPOSE. and serves as a checks and balance in legal proceedings.

IF that is the case, seize the phone, get a Search Warrant.

The problem is, the state couldn't be bothered following ESTABLISHED law and procedures.

Simply accusing someone of some unspecified crime isn't a right the state has to just bypass Constitutional protections, namely the 4th and 5th Amendments.

Americans have rights, secured in our founding Constitution. I don't care what feelings one might have to the rest of the case. Rights exist, enshrined and we ought to defend them tirelessly forever.

There is some established case law that says that one cannot be compelled to give up a Password, Pin or Pattern Unlock, as a violation of the 4th and 5th Amendment.

Those Amendments are key to a person's rights to be SECURE. Which is the key word here. He SECURED his rights, under duress, by refusing to comply.

THIS is separate from the police chasing him as a possible criminal for crimes I may or may not like.

Rights work by being the STARTING POINT, not an afterthought or worse, something the state can simply ignore in an attempt to prosecute people for potential criminal activity.

The state has legal remedies they ought to seek if they want access to secured personal property. We all know what that is. GET A WARRANT, which is almost always a rubber stamp (very easy bar to jump over). They couldn't even be bothered with that.

Everyone ought to understand, if we do not defend our rights, the state certainly won't.

I don’t discount anything. *You* discount what a plus 4 world entails. I don’t use the term “horror show” lightly. It *will be worse* than your fever dreams about the effects of attempted mitigations.

Nothing about it would have been easy or pleasant, and yet it would still have been less awful than the alternative. A plus 4 world is a horror show for human civilisation.

My apologies: your original claim was about Europe, but your specific post that I responded to was about the UK.

What other sources? Which numbers show your claim of “half”? I don’t agree that 0.6 is significantly lower than 0.78, whereas I would have agreed that half would have been significant. But half would have been 0.39 to 0.44, not 0.6, and your original claim wasn’t about significance, or about Europe, it was specific to the UK, saying the UK had half the rate of car ownership rate of the US.

Putting words in my mouth in that way is a pretty pathetic thing to do.

Finally, Europe is not one place that acts uniformly, culturally or politically. It doesn’t have the same universal built environment. Car ownership is widespread across many European countries, but no single European country has as high a rate of car ownership as the US.

Exaggerating to make your case does you no favours.

That is indeed one of the potential mechanisms of action. Road noise is something that many people have night-time exposure to more than any other type of noise.

The mechanism would be: traffic noise fragments sleep (even if you don’t wake); thus, deep sleep becomes less restorative. In deep sleep the brain’s “glymphatic system” clears metabolic waste, including misfolded proteins. Parkinson’s involves accumulation of -synuclein, and impaired clearance might accelerate this process.

Poor sleep is already recognised as both a symptom and potentially a contributor to neurodegeneration.

What are you talking about? The US has about 0.78 to 0.88 cars per person. In the UK it’s 0.6. You will notice that 0.6 is not, in fact, half of 0.78 or 0.88.

This is just your priors speaking. There are plausible biological mechanisms of action: chronic activation of the stress response, and long-term cortisol exposure promotes inflammation, oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction. Dopamine-producing neurons in the substantia nigra are particularly vulnerable to oxidative damage. Other potential mechanisms include sleep disruption, systemic inflammation and CVD effects. The causative link between road noise and CVD is especially well-established already, eg stroke risk goes up if you live near noisy roads.

If you *don’t* believe this, you’ll have to explain the quiet facade findings with your alternative explanation. Good luck with that.

While it’s bad to overstate something, it’s equally bad to understate something. And you’re doing the latter. The very abstract of the JAMA article says “Meaning: These findings suggest that road traffic noise may be a risk factor for Parkinson disease and that access to a quiet facade may mitigate the associated risk.”

This isn’t just some random correlation done by naive idiot scientists looking at two variables that reasonable people would never think would be linked. This is epidemiologists with expertise in understanding population risk factors for neurological disease investigating whether road noise is, as suspected, a risk factor for Parkinson’s.

You truly are just endlessly a prick. You give yourself these ridiculous airs and graces as though you are fearlessly telling truth to power, when in reality you’re being a cock on the internet telling someone they use Apple Maps to get to the shops because they say they use the service in their home country. This isn’t bravery, it’s stupidity. And it’s even more stupid that you pretend that you were saying something dispassionate, when it’s patently obvious you were attempting some sort of idiotic insult along the lines of my being too dumb to get to the shops without the help of Apple Maps. So you can get fucked good and hard by the moral horse you’re trying to ride in on.

I didn’t accuse you of insulting people, I said you were being a dick.

And for someone who claims to notice everything, you seemed not to notice that “living in the UK and using Apple Maps” is not functionally equivalent to “using Apple Maps to go the shops”.

I have met plenty of people who are dicks and plenty of people who are not. I’ve met plenty of people with autism and plenty of people without autism. These are orthogonal categories. You may or may not be in the person-with-autism column of the matrix, I couldn’t possibly comment. But you’re definitely in the person-who-acts-like-a-dick row of the matrix. At least here on Slashdot.

You really never miss an opportunity to be a dick. Funnily enough, the UK has quite a lot of places within it, and I don’t know them all, and I travel around enough within it that a map is helpful. I don’t use a map to go to the fucking shops, you nugget. I use it to go to a climbing festival in Sheffield or drop my daughter at a summer school in Dorset, etc.

I live in the UK and spend most of my time here. It is good in the UK, where, to repeat, I spend most of my time. Sometimes I travel and then it is not good, but because I spend most of my time in the UK, which I will mention again to see if it sinks in this time, I don’t experience the problems of Apple Maps most of the time and only experience the ways in which it is good. I said all this quite clearly the first time, I don’t know why you feel the need for wilful editorialising that is clearly not in accord with what I intended. You are just such an endlessly pointless dickhead about this kind of thing. I don’t know what psychological purpose it serves for you, but it’s very fucking irritating for the people you interact with.