I would counter that a news site that allows comments on their posts is also social media under the guidelines that comments ipso facto makes it social media.
That's not a counter because it's arguing against a position that no-one is arguing for
So the first poster and then me of the subthread is wrong? If you want to know what I was responding to, it was this referring to Youtube:
"Trying to ban it or whatever seems pretty useless, but it's silly to deny that it functions as social media.
I mean it's literally in the name, "You" post videos, others watch them, comment on them, react to them, share them, etc.
No, you don't have to use it that way, but you can, and it's built into every corner of the service."
Okay, let's dissect that. If I think it is not social media I am silly. Well I'm silly anyway.
It has "you" in it which ipso facto means it is social media. If that is his definition he can have it.
My point in all of this is that proper social media like Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Slashdot and some others are designed as much for the comments as the content.
How many people go to Facebook or Twitter to lean how to do woodturning or rebuild an IC engine? How many people go to Youtube for just the comments? The comments are just there. It's the same here in the different direction. How many people just read the news on /? The comments are the most important part.
To be certain, I have no issues with what cascadingstylesheet posted, I disagree, but people do disagree at times.
I joined this thread to point out that the first post in it wasn't arguing for it. The distinction is staff content vs user content, not the existence of comments.
If a person mentions the comments as part of the definition of social media, the comments are fair game to bring into the discussion.
On Youtube OTOH, I seldom go to the comments other than a few woodworkers I follow and interact with personally.
My emphasis. And you don't consider that "social"?
No, did you miss the part about interacting personally with them. I might look at the comments, (probably should have phrased that better) but my interactions are via personal email back and forth, sharing tips and tricks. I'm not going to ask questions about what angle his or her bevel grind on his chisels are, or to correct him on the species of wood he was turning on the lathe in the public comments. I spoke of a relaxed definition, so maybe we need to include personal email as social media as well?
So we've set the table. I'll finish it up with Amazon Reviews. Amazon reviews allows posting videos or images, it allows you to review, others to react or ask questions and you to respond. I've done all three.
By cascadingstylesheet and maybe your outlook, that makes it by definition, social media. I'm pretty certain he wasn't thinking about Amazon reviews when he wrote his definition though, Anyhow, we're dealing with definitions, and if you want to believe it is social media, have at it.
My definition of social media is that it is made for people to post comments on various things, as well as garner likes - generally for the endorphin buzz people get to putting people on blast if someone posts to the contrary. Youtube uses likes and dislikes it for possible flagging, and keeping tabs on subscriptions, because after so many subscriptions, the creator gets monetized. Seems like more an accounting method for a business model than anything else.