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Comment Re:Apples and oranges (Score 1) 61

When capitalism (in its modern crony form, since there has never been a free market) or communism (in its modern crony form, since there has never been equality between comrades) gets to 2000 years old, you MIGHT gain a point. Until then, your worship of modernism and utter lack of knowledge of history is blocking you from learning.

"Except you said their day job is hunter/gatherer. Their primary job is to hunt and gather. "

The average hunter/gatherer society works a 32 hour workweek. Plenty of time left over from that job for teaching the next generation.

"capitalists and communists can tell bed time stories too."

Yes they can. I never denied that economics can be a religion, only that it isn't a particularly successful one (due to extreme shortsightedness). When 2000 years old your religion is, maybe you'll have a point.

Wisdom is just how to apply knowledge. I don't know why you are scared of it.

From an evolutionary standpoint, correct wisdom reduces problems, incorrect wisdom increases problems. Cultures that increase problems, die out.

"And you do realize a lot of Christian sects don't let their priests or nuns marry and have kids, right?"

No problem with that as long as you don't use birth control or abortion. 10 child families feed vocations nicely.

Kings are never happy.

Comment Re:Apples and oranges (Score 1) 61

I was responding to "I'm not sure how to parse that sentence. "

"So you admit that religion is no different than capitalism or communism. Somebody wrote the religious books just as somebody wrote books on capitalism and communism. "

Yes. From the point of the view of the radical skeptic, they're all scams.

" Religion is just as materialistic and enslaved to lust as any other, and is no better at passing down wisdom."

Well, it's better in one way. I don't know of any 2000 year old markets.

"In other words, they were priests, but not the type of priest who functioned to pass down wisdom. "

Incorrect. Hunter/gatherer priests pass down a lot of wisdom. If they don't, the tribe starves to death.

"Their role as a "priest" was closer to that of a doctor or scientist today, working with what knowledge (not wisdom) they knew of the world to solve society's problems. "

Knowledge is a subset of wisdom. All true knowledge is necessary for wisdom; wisdom is how to apply the knowledge to solve society's problems. Religion passes on wisdom better than capitalism or communism has, for they just invent NEW problems.

"Ancient Egyptian priests for example didn't even care much for the common people. Their job was to perform rituals in temples (which commoners couldn't enter) to appease the gods, not pass down wisdom or teach the people about religion."

You apparently don't know much about ancient egyptian religion either, for this is entirely false. Did you learn all you know about Egyptian Religion from Stargate? The whole point of those grandiose temples was to inspire awe in the people and teach them something about their environment.

"Ergo, the existence of priests who-don't-pass-down-wisdom are not an example of how religion is somehow good at passing down wisdom."

You can come to all sorts of false conclusions when you invent fake data.

"which is why during the Christian church's peak in power (middle age feudalism all the way to age of colonialism and imperialism) so many royal families kept their blood "pure" through incest while still having many bastard children on the side, so there were plenty of potential contestants in the Game Of Thrones whenever there's an opening."

Which the church actively preached AGAINST, to the point of causing the Protestant Rebellion in England. Or did you forget that point?

"And surly none of the nobles and upper classes failed in exercising humility. The commoners loved their lords so much that they never dragged them out to the guillotine."

That was the atheists who caused that, remember?

"And surly the upper classes practiced love thy neighbor, like how King George loved his subjects. Intolerable acts that pissed off his subjects so much they broke off from his empire? Why he'd never!"

Protestants again. You'd think history was invented in 1500, by your level of knowledge. You know NOTHING about Medieval times, or actual Christendom between 600-1200 A.D., your examples are all modern.

"Oh, and again for chastity, slashdot ran a story [slashdot.org] recently that people are having less sex (read: more chase) than before. And they have less kids, at later times, if they even engage in relationships at all."

And you don't see the inevitable economic problem that will cause, do you. Chastity isn't just about NOT having sex- it's about having appropriate relationships that produce children so that the human race continues.

"How so? As I have shown, the good old past... wasn't."

And yet, 10 children families. MUCH happier, apparently.

"Well, religion is more enslaved to lust than being sexually free."

Then why does divorce exist in your "sexually free" system? And yes, people are having LESS sex, and thus are unhappier.

You're less than 10% of the society, you broke down taboos and demystified sex- and you caused a demographic collapse.

Comment Re:AV only helps if you are bad (Score 2) 206

Precisely. It's like the idiot light on your car for gas/overheating/whatever. If you failed to note the problem, it might warn you. Find a lightweight program and suck it up. I ran without AV from the late 80s to about 2011, and then I gave in based on the more subtle threats that were becoming common. Just not running scripts and untrusted attachments wasn't feeling entirely safe in an age of hidden filesystems that could get past air gaps.

For the record, i'd never gotten anything I knew about and no AV was ever able to find malware on my personal systems. No guarantees, but it was a pretty good record.

Comment Re: Logic Says It Should Be Legal (Score 1) 391

I've been injecting insulin and other drugs for 16 years now. No fuckups. No reactions. Nothing, and i'm no one special in this regard. It sounds like epinephrine is less stable than insulin in storage, but I could work with that - I used to carry my drugs in a sealed metal thermos on travel. Deployed to Iraq and back that way in 07-08.

Comment Re:You youngsters and your cloud (Score 1) 382

I am concerned about the lubrication and circuit boards (electrolytic caps, mostly) associated with hard disks over long term storage. I have found a high failure rate on my own old hard drives - old MFM drives were kind of crappily engineered, however, so the fact that an ST-251 drive from 1990 doesn't work today shouldn't necessarily be indicative of the lifespan of say, a WD Black 1TB manufactured in 2010.

Comment Re:That's bullshit (Score 0) 322

In my world, we rely on practical tests of functionality *with the actual users* rather than theoretical measures of effectiveness. It seems the CDC agrees with me on this one.

As to one of your other points:

"The bottom line is that a single act of intercourse between a young couple has on average a one in 20 chance of pregnancy – this assumes the opportunity presented itself on a random day, as these things tend do when you are young."

Source

So the answer is based on how often you fuck. The CDC numbers do not map precisely to data of this sort, however.

Last point: "measuring the effectiveness of encouraging people not to fuck" sounds like the craptastic questionnaire-based research I saw at (not to pick on them) the Lehigh psych department in the early 2000s. People lie, and they can't simulate the paths not taken effectively. There would literally be no way to know if someone decided to not have sexual intercourse based on an abstinence campaign.

Besides, my kind of abstinence campaign would be "Blowjobs for Everyone" or "Real lovers wank each other".

Comment That's bullshit (Score -1, Flamebait) 322

Actual effectiveness ratios for birth control:

US CDC document on actual effectiveness

Highlights:

Condoms are about as effective as the withdrawal method, sponges, or the rhythm method. 20% or so failure rates.
Spermicides are worse (!) (28%)
9% annual failure on the pill.

The only truly effective contraception methods are *just* the methods they won't allow young kids to get. I had to get a signoff from my wife at age 29 for a vasectomy. I was told they wouldn't do it if i were single or if I had been married with no children. Reason: ex post facto lawsuits by women aggrieved by the urologist denying them children within their marriage. Similarly, just try walking in and asking for your tubes tied at 16 or an IUD implant.

The bottom line is that the "conservatives" advocating abstinence training are actually right. The only actual way to reduce teen pregnancy is to encourage them to stop fucking so much. The birth control available to them _does not work_. They should all just screw bareback from what I can see.

Comment Re:Apples and oranges (Score 1) 61

A single atheist can exist. A group of atheists, will argue theology until the cows come home.

Same with any other fundamentalist.

"Dude, aren't religious rules derived from the holy book/word of god?"

Somebody had to write that book. Long before it was in a book, it was oral tradition. Long before it was oral tradition, it was bedtime stories for kids by parents trying to impart wisdom to the next generation.

Most religions existed long before their scriptures were written. Scriptures are only necessary if you get more than four generations from the founder without the cult collapsing.

"Hunter/gatherers also needed a surplus before some voodoo priest can claim that his magically connection to God helped them find food."

Few hunter/gatherer societies ever achieved a surplus of food- every single day was spent hunting/gathering- and yet they still had priests (who were also hunters/gatherers, you're right as far as a priestly class goes, but the professional priest is a rather recent addition and even today isn't entirely true, every priest I know has side interests and side jobs).

We were better off then because we had the three noble virtues:
https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2016/08/26/the-fading-of-three-christian-virtues/

We were happier back then.

Slavery to lust is still slavery.

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