Can the manufacturers guarantee that their products will never be used in an "adult" manner?
How about people who are offended about women's intimate wear?
How about rope vendors - sometimes rope is used in an adult manner.
Or if they said you should just grab women by the pussy. That'd be sure to end their careers, right?
My examples - Bill Burr is one of those guys who makes a lot of fun of feminists, and no holds barred. If they could cancel him, they sure as hell would.
And then there is Ricky. He goes way out of his way to be offensive. Canceled? He has a bit about transgenders that would cause a 2024 Democrat to have a heart attack, then need to go into therapy. And he's on tour now, packing people in to listen to him.
Both of those guys own their offensiveness.
And what are they doing? mostly calling out hypocrisy. And being funny as funny gets.
I might have mentioned it before, Jerry Seinfeld has a new show coming out. Michael Richards is going to be in it. Even some punishment was due for his transgression, there should probably not be a lifetime penalty for it.
Everyone is so literal. My office doesn't have jack squat on the wall. I was using what I assume was a common metaphor. Also every lawyer and physician I know (wife included) does have their diplomas on the wall and insists on being referred to as "Doctor" or "Attorney" in a professional capacity.
Where I work, the reverse snobbery rule is in effect and you get the side eye if you introduce yourself as Dr. So-and-so.
When you wrote "if you look at the diplomas hanging on my wall, and you knew nothing else about me, you'd assume by what I do and where I live and work that I was all in on the Follow The Science!" I kinda expected to see diplomas hanging on your wall if I walked into your office.
Your people insisting on being called "doctor" made me chuckle. We had a guy once who was so incensed at me calling him by his first name instead of doctor that he went to my supervisor and wanted me fired. Supervisor told him there were hundreds of Phd's around, but one person with my skillset, so he was more likely to be let go than me.
The next thing is that at least in my world, the honorifics are reserved for meetings. In person, and outside of that environment it is first names. Occasionally being introduced as "Our resident expert on" if there is someone new present.
Of course we already knew long before COVID that schools and daycares are giant petri dishes and probably one of the most significant transmission vectors of pathogens in society in general. Obviously if you want to shut down those huge vectors you would just shut down schools and daycares, and done.
When my son was in preschool, the wife and I were constantly ill with whatever might be going around at the time. He'd bring it home, we'd catch it. And the vagaries of viruses, sometimes it was damn nasty.
Masks, ventilation, and lots of disinfectant is pretty standard stuff in our modern understanding of not spreading shit, and if hurt fee fees are the biggest downside to trying (and I'm still not quite sure if it is the toddlers or the adults with the most hurt fee fees), I'm still not seeing the problem.
If we make it a game and make it fun, the kids will pick it up and run with it. I don't get the parental fee fees part of it. I didn't particularly enjoy taking the lad to get his various shots either, but ya gotta do it.
I had a toddler at the time and I felt like I was being made to punish my kid for what I knew to be an absolute nonsense reason. The harm *is* I was making my kid do something uncomfortable and unnatural for an absolutely pointless reason.
Teaching them to care about others is probably more uncomfortable and unnatural for you than them. They are young, they can still learn.
To continue on my earlier statement if the little ones are supposed to wear masks, then let them turn it into fun. Draw on them. Some people are even making decorative masks (search decorative medical masks on Amazon) then sharks teeth medical masks after that. Some of the masks are actually quite pretty. If your wee one is into pretty, there ya go. If they are more into funning and silly, there are masks for that as well.
Make it fun. Make it funny.
Everybody wearing their masks thus does indeed reduce the chances of them getting COVID.
I'm still going to disagree - masks helped reduce the spread. That's very much public health, because public health worries less about the individual and more the group, the "public" part. Fewer people infected is good, thus not theater.
This! Less infections, less illness, and you don't die from the plague if you don't catch the plague.
Theater was things like the people wearing masks with holes cut in them.
I don't know if this would be called theater, but in my case, I decorated my masks. I'd take a sharpie and draw teeth, sometimes shark teeth, sometimes rotten teeth, sometimes The Rolling Stones lips and tongue logo, I had fun with it.
Maybe it's an outlook thing. like laughing at the storm. Beats the hell out of cowering and crying, yaknow?
You don't understand. Many of the people religiously wearing masks during the pandemic honestly believed that wearing a mask would keep them from contracting COVID rather than preventing them from spreading if if they were contagious. Yes the masks served as an important part of keeping COVID from spreading, but it wasn't the way many, if not most people thought it was, and that's what I'm referring to as public health theater.
I'm having much trouble parsing this. There is a dichotomy, when we say that masks don't work, and at the same time, say they keep people who are infected from infecting others.
That sounds to me very much like they worked. If you don't catch the plague from someone who has it, even if asymptomatic, is that not preventing people from contracting the plague? It is just stopping transmission on the transmitter's side, not the receiver of the virus.
And I get the reason why they would work. The virus is "riding" on a vehicle, generally sputum or aerosolized fluid when a person coughs, maybe even just breathes. That won't make its way through the mask. And if it stops transmission, seems like a pretty good thing to me.
As for people believing it keeps them personally safe because it stops the virus from getting through to them, well lots of people have lots of wrong ideas of how a lot of things work. Doesn't change the underlying principle and working of the thing. If I were to make an analogy, it's like server side vs client side. The mask is on the server side, and it is protecting the client side.
that it should not be used for important stuff.
So String Theory is true?
String theory is misnamed. It is actually String religion.
No. It's a theory.
So far it's a theory that hasn't made any predictions that have turned out to be true, making it (so far) a pretty useless theory for explaining reality. But the fact that it hasn't proved useful doesn't mean it's not a theory.
Not trying to be pedantic, but isn't it a hypothesis if nothing has actually been shown to support it - yet? Well, maybe I am a bit.. 8^)
Point should be that most "people believe what they want to believe", but I can't find any sign of that oldie in the discussion. (Nor Funny.) On the basis of that folk saying, of course most people don't like any science that conflicts with one of the things they prefer to believe. Take the Bible, for example. Bad history and worse literature, but a LOT of people want to believe it.
I think a "real" scientist is capable of believing whatever the evidence shows, but most scientists are rather like most people.
Interesting that the privacy-related topic induced no reaction on Slashdot... We're just too jaded now?
What is it about linux that makes anti cheat so much harder to make work on it? Admin/system rights management that's more pro-user?
The condescension is the problem. Yours included.
Yours included as well - your post kinda drips with condescension.
I've been posting on slashdot since college, through my technical career and several rounds of grad school. If you look at the diplomas hanging on my wall, and you knew nothing else about me, you'd assume by what I do and where I live and work that I was all in on the Follow The Science!
You would be mistaken, if I walked into your office, and saw those degrees on the wall, I would make judgements based on that. I have nothing but artwork on my walls, the degrees are safely packed away. I don't need to brag about my education. Not saying you do, but I'll look at that with interest until you prove otherwise. Just me being me, I've seen too many Phd's who aren't worth crap. I've seen too many custodians who are smart and able.
And I was absolutely appalled by how "The Science" got deliberately out front of its headlights and advocated with the full force of scientific certainty for things that at the time were known to be speculative at best or implausible at worst.
Are you conflating Medical doctors as people of science? They aren't. I've heard more batshit crazy unscientific Bullshit from medical doctors than most others.
My own take on this vaccine kerfuffle you appear to believe is scientists saying something akin to "this is how it is, without question" is this.
There was a problem, they produced a vaccine, and if you want to take it, good. If you want to not take it, good also. What I read early on was things like "It doesn't prevent infection, but if you contract Covid, you will probably be less harmed. Probably true enough. I know I took the first two, then two boosters. Never had an issue, other than after the first of the second dose, I had a slight fever. three acetaminophen took care of that overnight.
But here's the real kicker - I don't care at all if you don't want to vaccinate. I don't care if you think that DPT vaccines cause autism. I don't care if you die or get long covid, like some people I know who are on full time oxygen with destroyed cardiopulmonary systems. Take the vaccine or do not, not my problem. Now on the other hand, I don't care if you die either. It's your life, and although if your children die, because you have interesting ideas about vaccines, that's sad, but in the end, your choice, and you were accepting of their death or maybe even living in an iron lung when polio comes back. If you want to take ivermectin or hydroquinone, or even drink bleach, hey knock yourself out. It's your choice. I support your choice. You do as you decide is certain, if you need 100 percent certainty about any vaccine, if you demand 100 percent no side effects or even accidental death, then don't take them, I will stand behind you decision, and if you die - not my problem.
Keeping schools closed and mandating vaccines as a condition of entering a restaurant comes to mind as an example of the speculative and untested.
Schools - who knows? Restaurants? Now that is different. Property rights, my good man. If the owner or manager says you have to wear a mask, or produce a vaccine card, or get scanned for your temperature - it is his property, his rules. Just like you have to wear a mask when in my workshop which is a rule long before the plague happened. If you try to come in you are handed one. If you refuse to put it on, you are asked to leave. If you refuse to leave, I will stand my ground.
The "make the power move" advice you gave above is the exact opposite of the correct answer in every dimension.
Tough. I have a job to do, and it has to be done on time and as perfect as possible. It involves a lot of people and hella responsibility. People have to listen and do as I say. So sometimes when confronted with an offense weasel, I have to say what is needed to get them back to work. They might not like the shot across the bow aspect, but they cannot say they didn't get an apology. Accept the apology given, or GTFO.
That doesn't always mean I don't give a sincere apology. I had to interrupt a young lady a couple years ago to get something done immediately. We had a bit of an argument, mostly her, I just informed her that she really had to listen to me (not yelling, I almost never yell). I went back the next day and honestly apologized since she wasn't an offense weasel. She was kind of shocked, but accepted the apology graciously, indeed she even expressed sincere regret that she was yelling at me. Now we have each other's backs.
But like it or not, wasting apologies on people who have no intention of accepting them is an annoyance, and the "power move" as you say - is just a tool for getting shit done on time and correctly.
It's as fundamental as 'people believe mistakes are bad'. There's a long way ahead.
True dat. It is why we see the never-ending "Scientists are stunned" stories, as if learning something new was something scientists don't want to happen.
And that's the difference. A lot of people want certainty. Many get that from reading ancient tomes like the angry desert god's holy Bible, some demanding no deviation, where every word in it must be literal truth - the real "literal - despite much of it being contradictory.
The scientific mind on the other hand, is ready to discard previously held believes if new evidence comes out. Which annoys those who believe via faith to no end.
all you can do is try to disprove it and if you fail it is probably true.
So String Theory is true?
String theory is misnamed. It is actually String religion. You have to believe things that cannot be scientifically tested.
How can you do 'New Math' problems with an 'Old Math' mind? -- Charles Schulz
