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Comment Re:Hillary lost because people don't like her (Score 1) 264

Fake news ... it's a problem because it's being systematically and purposely used to poison discourse and destroy the entire political system of your country

For a lot of us, it was poisoned to death at least 10 years ago. And we said so at the time, and no one cared.

A cataclysmic one, for which the whole world will pay dearly.

Speaking of "truth", please explain how you know the future.

Comment Re:Yes (Score 2) 264

Like I'm going to go "have a reasonable discussion with someone I don't agree with".

How would anyone know whether they disagreed with you? A "reasonable discussion" requires explanations of your thoughts. A list of half-articulated observations isn't something people can "reasonably" discuss.

I'm sure some people will react and emote with you though. And congratulate themselves for being righteous because ... well, mostly because they enjoy thinking they're righteous and better than other people.

Comment Re:Yes (Score 3, Insightful) 264

Ahh yes. "My side is sensible. The other side is extreme/insane/[insert slur here]." That's some well-reasoned analysis there.

Does your side actually do things to help the people whose votes you want? Maybe telling them to vote for you because you helped them might work better than telling them to vote for you because otherwise you'll call them names.

Comment Re: More about eliminating WrongThink (Score 1) 339

OK, so what you are saying is that you will only consider someone as being legitimately the President if you agree with them.

Donald Trump IS legitimately the President-elect. When he takes the oath of office in January, he will be the legitimate President, even if Hillary gets the Electoral College votes of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania thrown out so that the House decides who the next President is.

The fact that Trump will be the worst President after Obama has nothing to do with whether or not he is legitimate. The fact that Trump got fewer votes than Hillary is irrelevant, that is not how our system works. If you do not like how the system works, do your best to get the Constitution amended.

Hillary will never be the President of the United States because the American people realized that she would be even worse than Donald Trump.

Comment Re:Hillary lost because people don't like her (Score 1) 264

Given a different system, people might have voted differently. Hillary might or might not have won in that case. Anyone can make up whatever story they want about something that might have happened but didn't.

She still lost because people don't like her -- the "more than" or "less than" someone else doesn't change that.

Comment Hillary lost because people don't like her (Score 4, Insightful) 264

The "fake news" narrative is getting old. She didn't lose because of "fake news", she lost because people don't like her and because poor folks don't see Democrats in power and think "my problems will be solved" any more.

No one is going to vote any different based on telling stories about Russian influence, even if they're true stories. And you won't be able to censor the Internet effectively. If you try to, it will backfire on you.

If you want the next Democrat candidate to win, here's a suggestion for Democrats: help people. Don't just pick fights. Don't just point and jeer. Actually do something to genuinely help. Do it with a motivation to help rather than to get even with people you hate and maybe help someone in the process. Help Americans to get votes from Americans. Help a broad, inclusive population of people if you want votes from a broad population of people.

If you don't want Democrats to win, then just keep fighting. Keep calling everyone a racist or some other name. Cater exclusively to SJW crybullys who want to scream about transgenger microaggressions and cultural appropriation. Keep doing nothing for regular people. And keep telling yourself you lost because of "fake news".

Comment Re: More about eliminating WrongThink (Score 1) 339

Two points:
First, they predicted that the Electoral College results would be almost the exact opposite of what they turned out to be. Which makes them totally wrong.
Second, that popular vote "winning margin" is almost entirely in California...if you subtract California from both candidates' total votes, trump won the popular vote.

I, also, have a couple of other comments. The popular vote is irrelevant. Both candidates knew this and planned their campaigns accordingly. The recounts are unlikely to change the outcome in any of the states where they are being pushed for. The most likely effect of the recounts is for the Electoral College votes in those states to be invalidated, leading to the election being decided by the House, which is Republican controlled (and for purposes of deciding where the Electoral College did not, Republican dominated). It is improbable that the House Republicans will fail to choose Trump. Which means that the sole purpose of the recounts is to allow Democrats to cast doubt on Trump's legitimacy as President(similar to what they tried to do to George W. Bush).

The majority of Americans have accepted that the election is over and that Donald Trump won. If that were overturned, the next President would be viewed as illegitimate in the eyes of most Americans. It would be a devastating blow for our system of government because it would reveal to many people who are currently not really paying attention that our government does not really follow the laws as written.

Comment Re:Sooo (Score 3, Interesting) 339

That's sort of near "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people".

It's a living, breathing document. So it means (or, in these cases, doesn't mean) whatever powerful people want it to mean today. Tomorrow it may mean the exact opposite. Because power. And because shut up.

Comment Trump thanks you for this new power (Score 1) 339

Trump will use this new government power to determine which news is legitimate and which is "fake". Perhaps he will send the IRS after his enemies in the "fake" news camp, just like the Obama Administration did with the Tea Party. I hope you're not on the donor lists the IRS will be demanding from those organizations that Trump doesn't like. If you are, you better have all your financial records in order.

The FEC may also want to talk to you if your donations funded any "Citizens United" style communications to voters about Mr. Trump or his close allies. Hope you didn't make a criminal mistake by donating to the Wisconsin recount efforts or supporting them materially.

Big Government power sure is awesome, isn't it?

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