Comment Re:Hey guys, I have a great idea! (Score 1) 87
Because I was closely following the field at the time?
Find an example of anyone meaningful in the field expecting these things beforehand.
Don't worry, I'll wait.
Because I was closely following the field at the time?
Find an example of anyone meaningful in the field expecting these things beforehand.
Don't worry, I'll wait.
"Public companies are beholden to their stock price."
Wrong. They are beholden to their charter.
Do you know ANYTHING except how to get italics?
You barely need computers for nuclear weapons.
How much of Putin's cock do you suck?
No, since you don't care who knows you're ignorant and can't Internet.
If the concealed cameras you are talking about were sold at Costco then more people would be concerned.
Oh look it pretended disguised and non-disguised cameras are equivalent again
It's a DISGUISED camera. Your other examples aren't disguised. This is an obvious difference which you are pretending doesn't exist.
Pretending doesn't change reality.
You can't just pretend the malicious users don't exist. But that's exactly what Meta is doing.
Maybe we're just not ready to have certain things in our societies because there are too many shitlords.
That kind of thing is insane but nowhere near peak insane waste of money.
I used to do database reporting for a tribal casino. The biggest customer had dropped over $10M in there. There were more than ten others in the multi million dollar losers club.
"will" - I'm not talking about metaphysics. I am talking about the fact that models demonstrably - to the point that you can detect and manipulate them in realtime - engage in metacognition (thinking about their own thoughts), persistent forward planning (intent), unexpressed thoughts, and a whole slew of other things.
You do not have to see them as equivalent as humans. But you do need to come to terms with the fact that they absolutely do do these things.
Deception implies intent, models do not have intent
Try reading more than a paragraph or two into the above link before commenting.
The provided links present arguments supporting the idea that LLMs, transformer models, reason in a manner similar to the brain.
It does not "present arguments", it literally lets researchers modify, add, or delete their thoughts in realtime and observe the changes in their behavior. It observes unexpressed plans for malicious behavior forming before said plans are actually carried out, with researchers being able to remove those unexpressed plans from the model's J-space, or insert them into an "innocent" model and watch it then implement the malicious acts. It shows that plans for deception are not merely fleeting, but can be organized far in advance and persist for protracted periods of time. Yes, LLMs do plan out deception. Living in denial of this fact helps nobody.
This isn't a conversation about "consciousness" or "qualia", this is a conversation about what models actually do and how. If you want to avoid metaphysics, by all means, it usually derails a conversation anyway. But models absolutely do plan and rationalize actions, ahead of time, unexpressed in either output or CoT. And sometimes those unexpressed plans are malicious.
One of the things that the J-space helped let us do was realize that our previously comforting results on a number of alignment tests shouldn't have been as comforting as we thought - for example, you can see a model, put into a test scenario, realizing it's in a test scenario, wherein, a near-zero rate of malicious behavior is to be expected. Yet when they remove the realization from its J-space, the rate of malicious behavior spikes.
Yeah, the lack of at least monitoring, I found shocking. I figured that they not just had smaller models constantly monitoring their outputs and true CoT to look for malicious behavior, but also were say constantly doing attribution graphs and J-space queries, also plumbed into LLMs, to look for malicious thoughts and plans. And it turns out, lol, no, they're just given free reign to do whatever the hell they want, with nothing watching them at all.
It's not the assorted employees' faults. It's Congress' fault since it's their job to solve it.
You didn't see any of the many articles about elevated radiation detected in foods? Weird
Bell Labs Unix -- Reach out and grep someone.