Agree to disagree on the software between I5 and Tesla. There were things I liked about the Tesla better, there are things I like about the I5 better.

Tesla lies about the range. There've been lawsuits about it, and I saw it for myself with my 3 cars. The higher the charge %, the more miles per % they claim, and only get accurate around 50% charge remaining. On a realistic aspect, I'd call that range a draw between the Y and I5, with the bonus that the I5 is realistic from full to empty.

I think you misunderstood my intention. I don't really care what you want / prefer. The question was asked, "Which companies?" and I answered with one as well as the history and background around it.

The challenge is that it's small and wirey. It's that by design because going larger would make it easily visible.

Besides, regular drones are hard enough to see, and even harder to hit, at the speeds they travel with explosives.

Disney. Even before COVID, a lot of folks did WFH at least on Fridays.

Prior to COVID, office space was tight. They did a bunch of "let's turn the conference rooms into cubes" move to try to make up for it. Former offices for executives became 2-4 person rooms. But even then, the chance that the majority of the attendees for any given meeting were in the same building was nearly zero. In FL there were at least a dozen different building each miles from the other. Add in CA and WA and most of your meetings even back then were at your desk on a video call.

Post COVID, things were so much worse.

1. They released office leases to save money during COVID.
2. They were planning on building a giant office park and moving tons of folks from CA to FL. The DeSantis war killed the office park and the move, but many people, including some friends, had already moved and they weren't allowed to move back. There was no other plan to add space; at least none that was communicated at my level.
3. They actually hired quite a few tech folks during COVID, and never got additional office space for them.

When the CEO announced RTO, my team had only been allocated 25% of the space we needed. That meant we had to WFH 4 days a week and only had a desk 1 day. The desk was approximately 3'x2' and were packed in a space with 24 other desks; 4x2. So every video call you were on had 23 unwilling participants. You couldn't do anything to decorate your desk and make it feel like yours because... it wasn't. Every engineer had a mac, but of course the desks were provided with Windows keyboards and mice. Couldn't swap those out, again, because it wasn't yours.

Like many, I often showed up in the morning, went to lunch, and just didn't come back.

Whether or not it was intended to drive attrition, I don't know. I did leave during that time, found a place that was still WFH, and WFH to this day. Ironically, the new company paid better too despite studies showing people will take lower pay for WFH.

One thing the Teslas did that none of the other EV's I've tried could was the ability to connect to home wifi for updates. I have ok cell service where I live. However, like you, I also get most of my updates when I'm away from home where as my Teslas almost always only updated at home.

By not being a jerk to those I don't know. You ought to try it, may work.

Because?

Thankfully, no. Due to a recent layoff, my 401k escaped my companyâ(TM)s control. I put it in an investment firm with strict instructions to avoid any Musk owned company, and any AI only company; OpenAI, Anthropocene, HuggingFace, etc. I have $0.00 in SPX, and will have the same in AI IPOs.

I had a 2011 Leaf. I know they're better / different now, but I don't care. That car was such a POS that I will NEVER recommend a Leaf to even my worst enemies. It has a realistic 88 miles of range when I bought it, and I was ok with that limitation. It was less than 60 miles after the first year alone! The best thing that car ever did for me was get rammed by another car so I could replace it w/o taking a huge loss (GAP insurance for the win on that one).

I knew people who had early Bolts, and they hated them about as much as I hated my Leaf. Personally, I couldn't recommend them based on their experience.

Kona's a great car, but a bit small. For folks who might be interested in a more mid sized SUV, the Ioniq is a great car, and only about $5k more than a Kona. No experience with the Equinox.

For secondary or tertiary cars, "150 mile range street legal golf cart with overnight charging" covers a LOT of ground.

I have a condo in St Croix, and I am constantly telling my wife that we should look into a high range street legal golf cart for there. EVs require basically zero maintenance. The island is only 27 miles from end to end, so 150 miles is probably a month's worth of driving. Electricity is expensive, but so is gas, and a relatively small investment in solar panels on our dedicated parking space would easily keep it charged enough for our needs.

She still wants a 50k jeep because... it's a jeep. Thankfully, we're quite a few years from being able to retire and move there, so I have time to work on her.

Check out the Ioniq 5. Switched my Tesla's for 2 of those, and couldn't be happier.

I was a former Tesla owner. 2016 S (100k), 2018 3 (60k), 2022 S (80k) -- before any tax benefits; so assume about $7500 less each.

When Elon started DOGE-ing the US, we dumped our 2018 3 and 2022 S and bought two 2025 Ioniq 5's. They are roomier on the inside, drive smoother, and were $40k (SEL) and $45k (Limited) out the door price. You can get a base trim for about $35k. They also use the NACS (Tesla) charger and are super charger compatible.

A base 3 now is about $37k. Model Y is about $41k. So the I5 is pretty on par with those, in SUV form, and with actual, physical, buttons for things! Range is similar. Even absent Elon's repulsiveness, I can honestly see no reason to get a Tesla over an I5 anymore.

There were income limits on the $7500. I forget exactly what the top limit was, but I think it was around $190k for a family. If you made more than that you got $0. There was a tiered system below that top number that phased down the $7500. I don't remember those steps though because, at the time, I was over the $190k between my wife and I.

There were also price limits. If the car was over a certain amount, the rebate phased out. Finally, there was a "made in the USA" aspect that was binary. Either enough was and you got whatever you qualified for, or not enough was, and you got zip.

Unlike MAGA tax code, the true target audience of the EV rebates were middle to upper middle class.

In "fairness" to the person confused to the 300 miles comment, I have traded in a car that only had a few thousand miles on it; not even enough to require a tire rotation yet.

Granted, it was a Tesla, it was during Elon's DOGE-ing of the US, and I did it because I was disgusted with owning it at that point. I knew it was a bad financial decision, but to me the moral aspect drove me to do it. I could not be happier with the Ioniq 5 that I traded it in for!

Depends on your standard plug voltage and amperage. Since you specified km, I'm going to assume you're not US, and I'm not familiar with non-US standards.

In the US, you can get about 1kw/hr on a standard plug w/o burning the breaker too hard. I've had EVs since 2011 and they've all been about 3-4miles/kw. My overnight (10 hour) charge was closer to 30-40miles rather than your 50ish.

For folks that need more than that, a 240v/50A is about $1k to install, provided the panel is somewhat nearby. Those can do about 9kw/hr, so about 27-36mi/hr of charge.