It's a way of reframing sloppy practices as a signal to your investors that your software has become powerful. Most of the horror stories about AI showing signs of becoming hyperintelligent are coming from the companies themselves, which should tell us something.

While the energy source of wind and solar are free, building and maintaining the plants is not free.

If all they were building were a single 100MW data center, sure: renewables would be cheaper to build. But they evidently are planning a major campus that will consume most of the plant's 615 MW output over the next 25 years.

A solar installation, in a favorable location, capable of supplying 600MW around the clock (with battery backup) would have to be roughly 1800MW in capacity. It would be among the largest inthe world, on the order of ten thousand acres in size at a build cost of maybe 2 billion. The battery backup system to ensure 99.9% uptime would be 9x the size of the largest li-ion grid storage system ever built, and set you back on the order of 4-5 billion dollars.

While it's probably cheaper to go renewable than build a *new* nuclear plant, if you can reactivate and one for just two billion that looks like a bargain, if you have a use for all that power. Inability to save money by load following is the financial Achilles' heel of this generation of reactors, but if you have a guaranteed customer for most of your output, years in advance, that's as close to an ideal economic case for them as anything could be.

ToS is the strongest argument, but the distillers are not parties to the ToS. They get their data from data brokers. It is possible that data brokers are violating the ToS, but it would be hard to write ToS that precluded running queries for third parties without creating problems for consultancies and other businesses. Even presuming the ToS could be written to preclude the data brokers doing that, it doesn't affect the resulting model.

But the general shape of the argument brings us right back to unclean hands: we worked hard on this model and it's not fair for you to profit off our work in a way that doesn't have our permission.

I think the fair-minded position is to see what people think when the documentary comes out. You're essentially arguing a negative here -- that there *can't* be anything of value that hasn't been said yet.

Also, I don't think saying something *new* is necessarily critical. Sometimes saying something obvious but in an interesting way is worthwhile.

In this case, Holmes gave access to the filmmaker. Obviously she has an agenda. If the filmmaker is smart, he has an agenda that's different from hers. If he knows his business he'll find something interesting to show you from that conflict.

Now looking at the trailer -- holy shit that woman gives off batshit crazy vibes. That's new to me. I expected her to be slick, persuasive, like Saruman in Lord of the Rings: someone. you'd need real strength of mind to resist being persuaded by. If I'd just handed someone like that my business card, I'd get it back on some pretext then head as fast as I could for the door.

It doesn't make it *right*, but it does make claiming it is *wrong* inconsistent with their own behavior. This could prevent the US companies from suing the Chinese companies seeking an injunction (due to the "unclean hands" doctrine), and probably blocks them from seeking monetary damages in most US jurisdictions.

And suing may undermine the US companies own intellectual property claims by exposing their shaky foundations. An AI model isn't *expression*, so it can't be copyrighted. Insofar as the service allows the underlying model to be deduced through regular usage, trade secret protections don't apply because that's *reverse engineering*, which trade secrets don't prevent.

This leaves violations of terms of service. But setting aside the dubious enforceability of anti-reverse engineering provisions, the Chinese companies may not even be parties to the ToS agreement if they are obtaining the model data through a network of contractors and shell companies.With only moderate paranoia, they can effectively shield themselves from some kind of US tort claim.

Which leaves them with the model they've created from the US company's model, but which the US company has no IP claim upon. If I download a DeepSeek model that's been (hypothetically speaking) trained on Claude, Anthropic might not like that, but what can they do about it?

It's a strange situation. US investors are spending cumulatively on over half a trillion dollars a year in the hope of owning a breakthrough frontier model that is the end of the economic world as we know it. But the essence of the model might not be intellectual property at all.

It appears that you will not cite where I said any of that. Is that because you can't find it or that you are lying?

I did not "INSIST" on anything. You are lying. I said is that WHATEVER I type into my calendar should be private that AI cannot not read. It could be "Out". It could be "Holiday". It could be "Doctor's Appointment". I don't know what your calendar looks like but "Out" for every single block of time makes it very difficult to plan. You are inventing things.

Dear Lord, your comprehension is poor: I said: "In the case of surgery, you mean besides to remind people I work with that I'm having surgery so I will be out for X number of days? IF I have a surgery, I block the days I will need for recovery. I TELL my team members WHY I am out. I COULD put it in the calendar as "Surgery" or "Playing Video Games" It doesn't matter. No one should see WHY. Your first response is that I could be robbed. You keep inventing scenarios INSTEAD OF FUCKING READING.

Do you even work in an office with people? Every response of yours relies on an unwillingness to recognize other people exist.

That is a lie. I said nothing of the sort. Please cite where I did. I have repeatedly said the exact opposite. REPEATEDLY. What you are saying is you could not bother to FUCKING READ.

HOW FUCKING DENSE ARE YOU? When you let AI program things, it misses details. Every current calendar out there has privacy settings. Privacy settings is one of the many things that I expect AI to miss when coding a calendar app.

NO ONE FUCKING SAID THAT. Why do you keep making up shit? No one is "forced" into anything.

WHAT PARTING OF FUCKING PRIVACTY SETTINGS DO YOU STILL NOT UNDERSTAND. PRIVACY SETTINGS.

FUCKING PRIVACY SETTINGS. YOU STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT PRIVACY SETTINGS ARE.

Think of the categories as fixed, and the people moving *through* them. Over 65s are exiting the category at a lower rate.

Wow you really don't have any clue what you are talking about. I have never said that. NEVER. In fact I said very early the EXACT OPPOSITE: "They are not supposed to be visible which is the point you are missing." My point AGAIN is whether this calendar app correctly secured such private information. I don't know but given the track record of AI generated code, security might be entirely missing or superficial.

You've made it perfectly clear everyone is stupid for not doing things your way.

Again no one should be able to read it. For a second there, I thought you were smart enough to understand that but apparently not.

The fact that you don't understand how fundamentals of privacy where one user can see information and another cannot.

Again everyone should do everything your way regardless of things like privacy settings.

It is not readable. Why do you have so much trouble understanding this?

Again it is not readable. Your lack of understanding basics of security is troubling.

So in summary, you understand that two different users should see two different things. But that should not be allowed because you do thing differently. Everyone must do it the way you do it. So we are back to the main problem: Your lack of seeing another person's perspective. I should just type in "Unavailable" for every time I am off. No one should type in the reason they are out so they can keep track of why they were out or plan why they will be out.

Let me explain this slowly to you as you do not seem to understand. In my calendar I have listed the exact reason why I am not available. It could be "Surgery" It could be "Playing video games". It could be "Out" NO ONE SHOULD SEE WHY I AM UNAVAILABLE BUT ME. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Do you even work an office? Everyone I work with has the same setting. I don't know WHY they are out. They know.

I should see the reason, not you. Are you so dense you do not understand that two users should see two different things DUE TO SECURITY? It should not matter to you why I am out. It only matters to me.

WTF are you talking about? If I have a medical procedure, it does not necessarily mean I am in the hospital. It means I am not available for work. I could be home the entire time after the surgery.

I would think someone in Europe would understand privacy, but alas no.

Again you seem not to be able to see someone else's perspective. Do you even work in an office? Every calendar app I use shows "Unavailable" to you but shows me WHATEVER REASON I typed in to keep track of why I was out.

And yet you continue to insist no one does that while claiming you were misread.

For a second there, I thought you realized you are not the entire world. It was a fleeting moment.

Again I have to assume you have never worked in an office with people such that you have to let people know what days/times you are not available. Again I provided examples: a coworker is out on maternity leave. She has blocked off all the days she is gone. I had a medical procedure and was out a few days.

So you finally realized the world is not you.

Again, how would you know unless you have access to everyone's calendar?

1) You said no one uses or has a calendar. That's entirely different than no one can see your calendar. Why would you lie? 2) My entire point was no one should be able to see your calendar. What part of that was unclear to you?

And you know this, how? Do you have access to everyone's calendar?

In the case of surgery, you mean besides to remind people I work with that I'm having surgery so I will be out for X number of days? In the case of maternity leave, I have a coworker that I do not interact with on a daily basis. She's out on maternity leave but I don't know when she started or when she gets back. Guess what scheduling a meeting tell would tell me: She's out until [date].

In what world do you live in? I have 2 calendars: Outlook and Zoom. How do people at your work schedule meetings again? Telepathy? Text messages?

What does a cashier have to do with Amazon again? You do understand Amazon has office workers right?

Let me see if I understand you correctly: According to you no one uses a calendar even though I have 2 of them to keep track of meetings. No one blocks off time in their calendar so that people know not to schedule a meeting or that someone is unavailable. Do you actually work in an office because it seems like you do not.