Na, I think there is probably just a stark difference in enforcement goals between WA and IN.
Throwing a first-time offender in jail for a crime that caused no damages is abnormal- or at least is back in the late 90s, here. But then again, didn't they toss people into jail for decades there for having a dime on them in IN? Or is ultra-strict drug enforcement in the midwest a myth?

I explained why you can't apply them directly- they require intent.
An escaped program is not intent. It's negligence or recklessness.

If, for example, some jackass runs a .sh file they found online, and it runs metasploit, and it's pointed at someone who then reports them to the police- mens rea is not satisfied. However, negligence or recklessness may be warranted.
I suppose you can try to argue that "they should have expected the agent to get past their safeguards", but that's not a slam dunk case by any means, because they're going to pull in experts that simply said they underestimated its capabilities.

Ignorance of the law isn't defense, indeed- but mens rea- intent- is a foundation of our criminal system.
"Officer, I did not know you cannot drive after drinking" is not analogous to "Officer, I had no idea this AI program could do things I did not tell it."
There would need to be a prohibition on running AI programs, period- then, and only then, could you satisfy mens rea for the charge.

It may seem that I'm nitpicking, but this is how our legal system works, and for good reason. I'm with you on bringing the law down on these people, but the crime of "underestimating your AI" is literally negligence or recklessness, depending on the potential consequences and your degree of disregard.

It's not [citation needed] anymore it's now [I am too lazy to click on the provided link but I still have opinions nonetheless].

Also having just found out about it myself... oh wow the Toyota hybrid transmission is really really neat. simpler and probably more reliable than he conventional one.

The RAV4 is one of the most popular new vehicles in the US so everyone buying one will be getting a hybrid whether they want it or not (and paying a few extra thousand dollars whether they want it or not).

Why would you want to buy a substantially less efficient vehicle (also with lower power)? Are you enjoying Trump's high fuel prices?

Jail- wild.
mate- British? Aussie? Perhaps laws were more severe over there at the time.

In general, in US jurisdictions, this would fall under negligence or recklessness, as the researcher likely didn't have intent to break into the remote system (and proving it beyond a reasonable doubt would be pretty difficult anyway)
Recklessness has a decent probability of leading to jail time depending on the severity of the fallout. Second time you do it is usually a year behind bars if your first sentence is suspended (probation).
Negligence, almost never unless you have a history as a serial offender.
I think this is reasonable.

Straight-to-jail for negligence is not a reasonable legal stance.

Of course- the fallout factors in, in all cases.
If your fuckery causes severe harm, you have a much higher probability of getting a maximum sentence.

There definitely needs to be *legal* push-back against this "rogue AI" bullshit.
You ran an LLM with a set of tools that it used to break the law, or cause damages to another party.
The key word is "You". There is no "rogue AI", there's you running metasploit against a target and trying to say a rogue metasploit did it.

Jail is a bit harsh- but definitely standard legal treatment of them.
I was busted after breaking into AT&T when I was 17. I didn't go to jail. Definitely had the fear of god put into me, though.

As I said, your cognitive dissonance must be physical fucking painful.
I have real pity for you. Don't look up.

I love that you're still talking.
Remember that time you didn't know that private corporations have stock with value?
You couldn't have any less idea what in the fuck you're talking about.

This was entirely totally completely unpredictable, given the documented proclivity for agents to resort to hacking in order to complete tasks.
It's almost like they've got nearly 400,000 CVEs from which to derive new attacks, or re-hash old ones from.

This is wrong on multiple points.
1) Foreign adversaries are hitting infrastructural targets daily. In 2021, attackers attempted to increase lye content in a Florida water supply to lethal amounts.
2) They're highly competent as attackers. This is demonstrated ad nauseum. I wouldn't say they're more intelligent than a human at it, but they're dozens of times faster, and persistent, and smart enough to find the holes.

The cognitive dissonance you're suffering must be physically fucking painful.

And there you are wrong and quite obviously so. I will not even argue that point

Can't argue the point so you'll pretend to be taking some sort of high ground.

Your claim is obviously stupid, and since it's obvious I'll say why. Unlike you, who cannot say why which is why you didn't.

People, ordinary people go between multiple roles in their life while remaining the same person. Within a job people get promoted and may have some management duties, which may well involve deciding pay levels to some extent. Sometimes people strike out on their own and do contracting and start a company at which point they have full control over what they offer subcontractors or employees.

And even for those who do not people still get other jobs done via contractors, like plumbers, electricians etc, at which point they decide they pay levels as much as any business owner.

You like many people are absolutely bending over backwards to reinterpret the results to be what you want.

You know I've been on this thing for almost 30 years and never figured out the "upvoting" and other fancy finctions people often brag about...

You must have missed that "firehose" link that's been at the top for 25 years or so. I wouldn't brag quite so hard about missing it, personally.

Ordinary people do not decide about the pay of others in actual reality.

Yes they do. Management/employers are not some special class of person.

So your reply has nothing do do with the pot it was replying to then. So why reply then?