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Comment Re:What about snow? (Score 1) 184

They have fleet learning, where every car will share the same knowledge about a given route as all other Tesla cars. So if others have driven that same route with lane markings, your car will know where they are. And if not, it will use visual cues (paths being taken by other cars, etc) to work it out, the same as a human.

Comment Re:self-driving or assisted driving ? (Score 1) 184

I'm sure most require a person to be at the wheel. But when traffic laws was first written, maybe some didn't consider it necessary to specify that a person be controlling the car, as it was assumed. Perhaps in all the different jurisdictions around the world, there is one where the wording of the law accidentally permits a self driving car to legally operate.

Comment Re:self-driving or assisted driving ? (Score 1) 184

I think you're mixing up Autopilot, which Tesla vehicles have been using for a couple of years, and today's announcement. Today's reveal is about 100% autonomous self driving cars.

Tesla won't require a human at the wheel for this. Local laws might, but I think for quite some time people will be just sitting in the driver seat doing absolutely nothing while they wait for the laws to catch up.

Worth noting that Autopilot was never advertised as 100% autonomous - this new system will be.

Comment Re: Bullshit (Score 1) 990

The same as a minivan doesn't work when it has run out of petrol or if it needs to get into a narrow parking space or alleyway. You see? You can play this game all day long.

What if you find yourself trapped at a small town without a petrol station? You will still be able to find a shop with an electrical outlet.

What if you drive out into the desert until you are out of fuel/charge? If you pack a solar panel in your EV, you'll make your way back to civilisation eventually. It might be at 10km/day, but you *will* make it.

Yes, some of these are contrived examples. But so is driving an EV until you run out of charge. People just don't do that on purpose, unless they are a media representative trying to make a point.

Comment Re:Almost there, but not quite. (Score 1) 990

> If I wound up in a family situation where we became a two car family, absolutely, an electric vehicle would make sense for one of them

This is spot on. We've replaced one of our cars with a second hand Leaf and despite a worst-case range of about 70km, it is handling 90% of our usage. We only fill up the other car with petrol once every 8 weeks.

Comment Re: Bullshit (Score 1) 990

A Mini doesn't suit 99% of peoples needs ALL of the time. Neither does a minivan. But that doesn't mean the are useless vehicles.

Even a short range EV such as the Nissan Leaf will suit 90% of people, 90% of the time without question. If you're a two car household. as many families are, it's a perfectly functional option.

Comment Re:More context (Score 1) 228

The electric charging stations need to be a lot more ubiquitous for the situations to be similar.

Well, not really. Assume equal numbers of electric and petrol/diesel vehicles, you are only going to need 1/20th as many EV charging locations. The distribution will differ - you will need more on long distance routes (highways) and fewer in the suburbs.

Not to mention EV charging facility are not dedicated buildings themselves - they are simply additional facilities in a car park, so you don't need to build new dedicated stations.

And I could completely fill my old car's gas tank in five minutes as well. The fast-charging stations are exceedingly rare, even in California.

Last time I did a highway stop on a road trip, I was stopped for 40 minutes. Ten to queue up at the station, refuel, go in and pay. Then move the car to a general car park, get coffee, food, take the kids to the toilet, let the kids have a quick run in the playground. Had I been driving a Tesla and used a supercharger the car would have been charging for the entire time. I would have been no worse off. It's an example I love to use, of course not all stops are like this, but I bet this sounds familiar to many parents. Certainly more familiar that those people who claim they drive for five hours, stop for five minutes and then drive for another five hours.

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