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Comment Re:The researchers concluded... Hmmm. (Score 1) 43

You never get to the point of saying "that's strange" if you can't say "I don't know."

Examples: the discovery of ergot fungus, for centuries attributed to demonic posession or divine punishment; the helicentric solar system, resisted despite centuries of strange behaviour of the planets because of hubris and some old Greek dude; physicians washing their hands between performing autopsies and delivering babies, because lol, what a dumb idea.

Comment Re:Publicity stunt (Score 1) 36

Yeah, big optical telescopes are better in orbit. Not just putting them there, but building them there. The microgravity lets you build mirrors as big as you like, and also get baselines as big as you like. Hey, guess where you can get a lot of quartz to make giant mirrors?

Unless you're at the point where you can literally build them there from lunar resources.

Yes, that is the point. There are both industrial and scientific reasons to go to the moon. Picking up rocks is a scientific reason with some considerable value. But the real payoff for both requires actually developing infrastructure and having a reasonably long term commitment.

Comment Re:Mathematician commentary included (Score 1) 31

I am surprised that a site suppsedly full of computer scientists is the least bit surprised that AI can be good at mathematical proofs. For any formalizable problem you know where you start, you know where you want to end up and you know the legal state transitions. It's a simple tree search that we have, in fact, written lots of standard computer programs to execute.

The difficulty comes because any non-trivial proof is a very big tree search. But learning style AI is really good at pruning really big trees, as we demonstrated quite a while ago with chess and Go.

Comment Re:Publicity stunt (Score 1) 36

How many more moonrocks do we really need? And can't an unmanned craft bring back many more rocks than any manned mission, and much more cheaply?

Pretty much any additional rock would have scientific value, which was your question. Rocks from interesting unsampled locations, like the far side or the south pole have much more scientific value. Potentially we could return them unmanned, but we're still not really at the point where a human with a hammer can be entirely replaced by a robot.

Anything the moon has the Earth has in much greater abundance.

Yes, but a lot of it is inaccessible. We can really only scratch the surface of the Earth and there are often lots of problems doing even that. But the real advantage is, as you put it yourself:

The sheer energy cost of moving anything productive to the moon makes producing all of these things on Earth much more cost appealing.

That's why, if you want to do anything in space, you want to get stuff from space, the moon being the easiest place. Do we want to do stuff in space? Yes we do, certainly for scientific reasons. We are also becoming more and more interested in doing it for industrial reasons. There are lots of processes that might work better in low or zero gravity, some of which have been proven.

I'm not opposed to science, and I'm not opposed to space exploration...but we have not had leaders who have clearly set forth a long-term vision for why we should do this

Our exploitation of space has been scientific, which has had quite good returns, military, the value of which depends on how you value military capability, and prestige, which also depends on your values. The last one gets all the attention and it really shouldn't. The first one is often publicly compromised by the second; the shuttle program, for example.

And the investment is so massive and so cost inefficient,

It's not really. The entire Apollo program, corrected for inflation, cost about 1/3 of a ballroom (Apollo cost realized, ballroom current estimate) or maybe six months of bombing Iran (US cost, not counting Iranian or world cost). The Apollo program, despite being mostly a prestige mission, had lots of spinoff benefits, from electronics to kidney dialysis.

Comment Re:Mathematician commentary included (Score 1) 31

Made up numbers are kind of silly. Especially when they refer to things that aren't easily quantifiable.

If the AI made a non-trivial contribution to a proof then that's interesting. In this case it seems like it did so. I doubt it was something mathematicians couldn't do, but it does seem to be something they hadn't done.

Comment Re:So not a big deal (Score 1) 158

I described transmission, in a hospital in Dallas, to trained medical staff who were warned and taking Ebola-recommended precautions. Your comment:

In countries with functioning public health symptoms, victims are cared for by medical professionals who can avoid coming in contact with fluids.

Let me repeat, because your reading comprehension doesn't seem all that great:

Your ability to not be concerned, and to make up shit you pretty obviously don't know anything about, is due to an army of people who are concerned, and are allowing your elitist ignorance to be merely a character flaw instead of a fatal character flaw.

Comment Re:Publicity stunt (Score 1) 36

Yes. We learned a lot about the formation of the solar system from the rocks Apollo brought back. We'd learn more if we had more rocks. It's also a great place to build telescopes.

More importantly, there are good industrial reasons to go to the moon. It's a big pile of resources and available energy already in orbit. Space habitats, manufacturing, power satellites, data centres and whatnot are silly currently, maybe sort of doable with cheap access to orbit like Starship promises, but pretty straightforward if you have an industrial base on the moon.

A race to put some boots wearing the right flag on the moon doesn't have much value either way.

Comment Re:Right (Score 2) 48

Developing a modern browser is a ridiculous amount of work.

Depends what you mean by "modern browser." The OP is complaining about the lack of diversity in browsers, not the lack of diversity in browser engines. You can write a browser using your engine of choice, i.e. not Chrome's Blink, in a few hours. It will support all the CSS, Javascript, yadda yadda. There are even some projects around that will let you build an app around whatever browser engine happens to be available on the system. That app could be a browser.

It is indeed a lot of work to make a "modern browser" that does things like cache running fetches between restarts and changes something or other with tabs every other release, but maybe people concerned about running Chrome would actually prefer less support for those things.

Comment Re:Right (Score 2) 48

Safari is only Apple stuff

Webkit (what Safari uses) is open source. It runs on Windows, Linux and a bunch of other UNIX-like OSs. It's also used by the browsers in Playstations, Nintendos, and Kindles. If you're using Linux you can use Gnome's default browser, which is Webkit. If you're using Windows your options are limited, but you could try the Orion port.

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