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Comment Re:Woohoo! (Score 1) 794

Are they not allowed to be upset at both?

They aren't, that's the point.

Manning's intent was not to help America as claimed. It was revenge for perceived treatment after attacking another soldier and getting demoted.

Stupid bullshit is stupid.

Manning was also egged on by Adrian Lamo.

Who was obviously trying to work off time from the state by being an informant.

There was not even a remote chance that it was reviewed to see if anything there was bad before it was dumped.

They did before Daniel Dumbshit Berg lost it.

Should the sentence be commuted? I don't believe so...

1) She's already served more time in prison than any other whisteblower

2) You care only about the propriety of the leaker, not the murder, torture and rape revealed by the leaks. Which makes you a depraved authoritarian.

Comment Re:Stranger Logic (Score 1) 272

She didn't just distribute information showing abuses though- she distributed everything she could get her hands on without care.

A canard already addressed: "you mean she didn't have time nor the resources to sort the data."

Snowden managed to

Snowden was a high level data analyst who worked for both the government directly and a contractor. That means he wasn't pressed for time, and could pick and choose what he wanted without fear of being detected - as opposed to Manning who had to a snatch and grab.

Of course some of the things she uncovered were horrendous and if that's all she did

Yes, you would rather talk about the propriety of the leaker than the torture, murder and rape that was revealed by the leaks. Your priorities are noted.

Comment Re:liar (Score 1) 550

So far there's no evidence that anyone was persecuting Assange.

Other than the open secret that the DOJ has a sealed indictment against him.

He was wanted for questioning

He's offered to answer questions to Swedish authorities if they were to come to the embassy, or do it remotely.

tried to convince British courts not to extradite him back to Sweden

He doesn't want Sweden to hand him over to the United States, with good reason - the country participated in Bush's extraordinary kidnapping program, handing people over who were promptly tortured. So, Assange has also offered to return to Sweden if they promise not to give him a short ride from a Swedish plane to an American one on the runway. Maybe both of those offers were mere bluffs, and he would have found a reason to back out.

But it would be easy for Sweden to call those bluffs, and they haven't - meaning credibility issues here did not start with Assange.

Comment Re:Does the US government want him? (Score 1) 550

You mean he really wants to avoid being handed right over the U.S. government, that tortured Manning with more than a year in solitary confinement, by the Swedes. Because that's exactly what Sweden has done in the past. Assange has also offered to be interviewed by Swedish prosecutors if they came to the Ecuador embassy, or to return to Sweden if the government promises not to hand him over to the United States. Maybe he would find a reason not to fulfill those promises - but it would be very easy for Sweden to call his bluff.

They haven't called his bluff. Which tells any person with two functioning neurons that it's not about rape allegations and never has been.

Comment Re:Assange lacks integrity. (Score 1) 550

Zimbabwean opposition members

Who you DGAF about, and are using as mere props in an argument. Protip: the next time you're throwing Assange under the bus with props, you might decry the lack of prosecution for the torture, killings and U.S. sponsored child rape at the same time, so it's harder to out you as a hack.

Comment Re:What Clinton did (Score 1) 550

So did Trump's nominee for Secretary of State.

Irrelevant.

or something that's been done by high profile member of the incoming administration.

See above.

GOP shenanigans do not excuse Democratic shenanigans, and vice versa. Case in point, you probably didn't give Trump a pass for being a sexually harassing womanizer during the election last year, because Bill Clinton did it first.

Comment Re:WHat I said on ars: (Score 1) 550

At one time this very transparent concern troll vehemently faked support for wikileaks, but learned to hate Julian when he

FTFY.

I believe all information on all parties should be treated equally and should be liberated to enact change as it will. Julian clearly believes information is leverage to apply blah blah blah blah

Wikileaks is in the publishing-of-leaks business, not the hacking business. They can only publish what they've been given. So if you want them to publish RNC emails or Trumps tax returns, stop engaging in empty character assassination and get busy hacking.

Comment Re:WHat I said on ars: (Score 1) 550

What rock have you been living under? Plenty of originally supportive folks decided Assange was a dickhead a long time ago.

You just gave the definition of a concern troll.

most recently just two months ago

Wow. If I end up saying something stupid, I don't make a point of referencing the stupidity later on:

To summarize: "I only publishes whats I gets and my Russian handlers didn't give me anything damaging on Trump, so... I no publish anything".

1) Wikileaks is in the publishing business, not the hacking business. If you want Wikileaks to publish information on Trump, the RNC, Russia or the price of rice in China, then get off your lazy ass and start hacking.

2) Russian handlers? That's so stupid it's not worth responding to.

So you can fuck right off.

Go fuck yourself, concern troll. At your next troll meeting, you might suggest that you and your fellow trolls back up these character attacks on Assange, so you can't be dismissed as tools in .002 seconds.

Comment Re:I just have one simple question. (Score 1) 550

So anyone who goes outside in a country under occupation - to go to work, to school, to buy food - just has it coming when a helicopter shoots them all for no reason? Did you take classes to engage in this level of depraved idiocy, or does it come naturally?

Comment Re:Is GTMO closed? (Score 1) 550

Do you not recall the furore around here over the rape accusations?

Do you not recall that Sweden has refused to interview Assange in the embassy, or promise not to extradite him to the US if he returned to Sweden? Maybe Assange would have found a reason to back out of those promises as well - but the fact that Sweden hasn't called his bluff means the rape accusations are a joke.

Where the fuck do they find you people? It's assholes like you that make me wonder if humanity as a whole is really that self-deluded, full of shit-stain trolls, or blah blah blah blah blah

Obama's own Vice President went from threatening Bush with impeachment if he attacked Iran without going through Congress, then was part of an administration that ignored Congress for months as he waged war on Libya. If that's not enough, remember how Democrats were furious over the Patriot Act - but DGAF when Obama signed an NDAA allowing the military to throw you in prison without trial?

Comment Re:Is GTMO closed? (Score 1) 550

Assange is very far from a "perfect record for truth telling".

Then you'll have no problem listing some examples of fraudulent documents released through Wikileaks, right?

And the only country anyone has asked him to surrender for is Sweden. Is that "the torture country" in your book?

Are you ignorant of the fact that Sweden was a willing tool of Bush's extraordinary kidnapping program, handing people over to United States custody that were promptly tortured?

Comment Re:hardly surprising (Score 1) 305

Possessing money is a symptom of a certain generation within a family exploiting people or resources

Fixed that up a bit. If hard work == riches, family farmers and public school teachers would be the millionaires, while investment bankers would be living in modest apartments while paying off their student loan debts.

Comment Re:Not a single time traveler? (Score 1) 1398

The U.S. overthrow of Ukraine is no more disputable than the fact that the U.S. government lied through its teeth on Iraq's WMD's. Hillary's stooge Victoria Nuland is on video bragging about spending $5 billion to manipulate the Ukrainian government - and then Democrats whine about Russian interference in their own elections. The legislature failed to get the necessary number of votes to impeach the president, but the US immediately recognized the legitimacy of the coup after the president was forced to flee for his life.

So go fuck yourself, you sucker of anti-semetic fascist cock, you.

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