So you agree with me then. Great.

PDO was released with PHP 5.1 and available for 5.0 8 years ago.

Your only complaint was address a long time ago. Let it go, man, let it go.

I wouldn't. Name mangling being a good enough reason for the instances that pop in to my head at the moment.

You're drowning. Sorry, but reality doesn't agree with your uninformed opinions. JS has been impressively stable, and cross-browser issues have been negligible for a long time now -- none of which, I'll remind you, have been language implementation compatibility issues.

Listening to you, one would think that the web barely functioned, with users needing multiple browsers, and various versions of each, to use a handful of sites. That's clearly not the case.

Here in reality, the web is developing nicely in to a convenient application platform. JS is an impressive language, far more sophisticated and capable than the alternatives you've suggested. (New and constructor functions were the big mistakes, leading to all sorts of confusion, and later hate, for those who didn't take the time to learn the language before using it. Luckily, they're unnecessary. Try actually learning the language. I'll bet your opinion will quickly change.)

I'll bet your python program doesn't run either. What was your point again? That you don't like JS or that the web is incapable of being used exactly how it's being used?

Well, okay. It's never caused me any problems and it's been useful to me.

Your experience is different. You've never found it useful and it's caused you problems.

I'll bet we could make a whole list of common language features that match that. Should we call those design flaws as well?

Maybe. Which version of python does your program run under? They have a lot of trouble maintaining compatibility between minor version numbers.

Further, everyone has a browser. Not everyone has python. Fewer still have the random version of python you need to run your program.

LOL! One of Randall's worst, by far. IIRC, he even takes a beating on the forum for that one.

Neither. Teach a man to fish, you know?

I could provide an argument, but it's pointless. They'll just spout more nonsense in defense of the nonsense they're repeating. If you're ability to reason and understanding of logic is that poor, you're not equipped to handle it. Better to let them work out the details themselves. Thinking is skilled work, after all.

Seriously? This isn't complicated.

If you visit any video sharing site, you'll find countless amateur videos purporting to be evidence of those 'kinds of things'. Now ask yourself: "Why don't these videos constitute evidence?"

Got it? Great, let's take that and apply it to the statement in question:

Do you see the problem with that statement now?

This is what happens when people trust Randall Munroe to do their thinking for them. (See: xkcd 1235 for the origin of the parent's nonsense.)

Think about that for a bit. Do you see the problem? If you're having trouble, check out a website called youtube.

8 years ago is 'rather recently'?

I'd change your emphasized "is" to a "was" or even a "was a long time ago".

Just to add: If you actually need something like C++, you should probably use C.

To the parent: Linus would like a word with you.

When you understand that, you'll be enlightened.

When you can answer that, you'll be on the path to enlightenment!

This is just silly. I'm guessing you're joking here.

Yes. We took the time to learn the language first. We understand things like closures and anonymous functions and understand the value of prototype-based programming. We know how dynamic typing works because we're not morons. We know how 'this' works and understand that the language would be completely broken if it worked like you think it should.

Yeah, I'd call that a 'different mental space' from yours.

It has flaws, sure, but so does every other language. It's also an incredibly clever and well-designed language. You're obligated to learn it first, of course. I know the syntax looks familiar, but it's not Java or C.

I don't get it either. It seems to have an awful lot of trouble maintaining compatibility between minor versions.