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Comment Re:Not believing everything your read (Score 1) 361

That would be good. Ideally, people would increase their domain knowledge anytime they find they don't have enough. It's far easier and more convenient today than it was even 10 years ago. Wikipedia is a great starting point and something like Google Scholar helps take it to the next level.

Unfortunately, many people learn critical thinking and the scientific method (I know the scientific method was drummed into us in high school) but don't apply it to other areas of their lives. How do we get them to do this?

Comment Re:Why bother. (Score 1) 361

One area that fixes this problem entirely is completely ignored in public education Why are critical thinking skills not taught in school? (Sometimes it's voluntary; or it people think it doesn't apply to anything outside the subject - see scientific method that most public educations teach). Everyone should learn that they are capable of being wrong; that they need to listen every side of an argument; and that should they be wrong, correcting their view is good.

I find that many people have to be right about whatever their views are, and convincing them otherwise is like pulling teeth. Sometimes when the evidence is simple and quick, it happens easy. However when things require more than several minutes of thought, their eyes glaze over, they lose interest, or they think it takes too long. So my question is, how can we get the masses to take critical thinking and the scientific method seriously? How can we get them to apply it to political arguments and their daily life?

Comment Re:First Yea!!! (Score 1) 216

Yes I see no problems with eating humans, meat is meat... If you bred and raised them and killed them with them barely being aware of it yes.

You expect me to believe you have no problem with me eating my children? Or perhaps I can capture you and a woman, get you two to breed and then eat your offspring. If it's not okay for me to do this to you, then you can't expect it being okay for anyone else. Thus we can't eat humans.

we evolved to process it, hence it's totally natural for us

Fair enough that factory farming is not at issue, however just because we evolved a natural process doesn't mean we succumb to it. We also evolved processes for sex and forcing it upon others - that's not acceptable in any fashion. It's different from bear hunting because the bear isn't capable of taking things into account other than it's own hunger and instincts how to quench it.

Still didn't explain why it's ok to kill plants and not animals..

Plants don't resist me when I pick them from the ground. Ever seen chickens go to slaughter? They do everything in their power to get out of there, and every other chicken in the vicinity is very well aware of what's going on. In contrast to plant, I can take off leaves, take a nib while it's growing, and no reaction. There are physiological reactions, but nothing that shows pain, resistance, or even awareness. Just a reaction to matter being removed. If you need me to cite this I will, but there are many studies out there observing plan behavior.
Please explain what you mean by:

kill a plant on a timescale where it can react

Also, plants have no CNS, therefor cannot feel pain/suffer, thus okay to kill. With meat that can do this, I eat it. For example oysters which are closer to a moving plant than to a cow.

Comment Re:First Yea!!! (Score 1) 216

Explain why it's ok to kill living non sentient beings but not sentient ones?

So according to your logical chain of thought, I should be able to eat a human? It's just another life being killed either way, right? It also logically follows then, that if killing a human life for sustenance is acceptable, there's no moral issue with farming humans and selling chunks in grocery stores. Sure some might resist come slaughter time, but hey, so do cows and chickens.

that is just how nature works

You'll be hard pressed to find in nature, chickens living and barely moving in tiny tiny cages. Also note, that unless you live in a very cold climate, freezing isn't natural either. "Natural" killing consists of an animal following it's eating instinct and killing for food - it has no consideration of another being's will, wants, needs, or personality. I'm not advocating for stopping bears from killing deer, I am advocating for humans who realize how horrible killing something that doesn't want to die is, to stop doing so. Though I have to admit that if your stance is that all life is edible including human babies - you are being consistent and logical. You just have zero empathy for other life :(

Comment Re:First Yea!!! (Score 0) 216

Why would you eat something you can be friends with when you can sustain yourself perfectly well on insentient foods? I wouldn't eat my friends just because I'm hungry and they taste good. Not wasting their flesh doesn't make things better; you're attempting to rationalize something you know isn't right.

Comment Re:Let's be accurate here (Score 2) 815

We don't let them deceive and exploit the dumb with broad claims that could be interpreted falsely. Investing in education is good for the future; but we still need to deal with the real world now where masses of people, both rich and poor, could be exploited by marketing. I am all for not allowing people to be taken advantage of in this manner.

Comment Re:I'm glad they didn't (Score 1) 397

Absolutely! Thinking that someone who does the right thing is to blame when nut jobs do horrible things is akin to blaming a beautiful woman who got raped for being pretty. It's no one's fault besides the murderer/rapists. You might have angered them, but they chose how to react. All attention should be on their shame and prosecution. If everyone who knew of cartel members exposed them, it would be much harder for them to find people to play along. Lots of people doing very small things makes an enormous impact! (see latest season of Furturama where there are tons of tiny benders for a great and funny example).

Comment Re:Who's Anonymous (Score 1) 397

Hey, watch it. Where do you think you are- an established and reputable newspaper? Oh wait, they're playing along as well. Look buddy, no one wants your "reasoning" and "logic" here, people want to be sensational about a hacking group. No one can claim to be anonymous except people who are really members, k? Just stop thinking there!

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