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Comment Re:Our own backyard? (Score 1) 167

If there are extraterrestrials found at some point and they are vastly different from us then whose image did God create them in?

Whose image were squids and starfish and platypuses and kiwis created in? And how is a mockingbird any different than an ET life form in this respect?

Comment Re:Consumer spending never goes back up? (Score 2) 130

Medical is not innovative for consumers.

Holy crap, you're either very young or you haven't been to a hospital in a long time. Ever hear of ether? That used to be used as a anasthetic in surgery. They used cloth and plaster for broken bones, hot as hell if you sweat. They never had defilibrators, OR monitors, stents, artificial joints, CrystaLens implants, MRI, sonograms, cochlear implants... no innovation? Congratulations on the most ignorant comment I've seen today, son.

Food is certainly not innovative

I see you've never been outside a city. Farming technology is nothing like it was 25 years ago. Hell, they have harvesters that run themselves using GPS now. And without farms, there's no food. Without food innovation there'd be a hell of a lot more hunger in the world.

Where do you kids come up with these dumb ideas, anyway?

Comment Re:U.S. is established on religion, so (Score 1) 900

There are no good arguments in favor of the truth of sentience (please feel free to provide any, if you can). I can no more prove I'm sentient than I can prove God's existance, or you can prove his nonexistance. Religious people are religious because they had an indescribable religious experience, not because they've been brainwashed or browbeaten. Once that happens, disbelief is impossible, no faith necessary. It's athiesm that demands faith; unless you've had a religious experience the only logical position is agnosticism.

Even many organized religions are aware of that, which is why they insist so much on faith.

You misunderstand "faith". It isn't "having faith that God exists, it's "faith" as in being faithful to God and not worshiping another god, such as money or "mother nature" (the Wiccan god).

Comment Re:Our own backyard? (Score 1) 167

Most main stream religions seem to pontificate about how God created man in is own image

Only if you only count Abrahamic religions as "mainstream". There are millions upon millions of Bhuddists and Hindus, you know. AND, if and when we do find ET, do you really think he's going to be a Vulcan? Look at the diversity of life on earth, all of which has a common evolution. The sci-fi idea (usually in movies and TV, seldom in literature) that ET will look anything at all like us is ludicrous, even more ludicrous than the insistance that there must be or cannot be life elsewhere.

The main religions of the world which are Christianity and Islam were created are to serve as a control mechanism that allowed the people at the top to gain power and wealth.

That's just flat out incorrect. Christianity is decidedly against power and wealth; and yes, I am a Christian. It is against wealth, greed, pride, narcisism. It is for peace, humility, forgiveness (above all), and happiness. I'll lay a few passages from the Christian bible about wealth and power:

Blessed are the poor, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

âoeBlessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

That led to his execution.

Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Comment Re:Not a bad idea but... (Score 1) 725

The clock is unimportant for outdoor work. Lots of construction workers go to Felbers (in fact most of them are in construction). In the summer, the roofers start working as soon as it's light enough to see and quit when it gets too hot, at 11:00 am to 2:00 pm depending on the weather (and usually head straight to the bar).

DST is for us desk jockeys to get a little sun, the guys working outside get plenty.

Comment Re:Our own backyard? (Score 1) 167

If clear evidence of extraterrestrials is ever found can you imagine the gigantic shit storm it would create?

I'm a Christian, and I think the liklihood that this rock is the only one one bering life is improbable. On the other hand, there are so many here at slashdot that are 100% certain we will find ET. Such faith! Me, I think it's unlikely we'll not find ET sooner or later, but it's not unthinkable that this is the only place with life.

Back in the day anyone claiming the Earth was round and not flat were labeled heretics and killed.

Incorrect; Galleleo was persecuted for saying the earth wasn't the center of the universe, not that it was round. I have herad of no incidents where someone was stoned for not thinking the earth was flat, do you have a citation?

Comment Re:Visible hand of state corruption (Score 1) 435

Nixon wasn't impeached, he resigned before impeachment proceedings started. And far from being less than Soylandra, it was far worse a scandal -- Republican burglars broke in and stole Democrat documents with Nixon's blessing, sodomizing the democratic process itself. Soylandra is more like what put Nixon's VP in prison.

Comment Re:U.S. is established on religion, so (Score 1) 900

So here's a thought :
the only way atheists get convinced of atheism is exactly the same way people get convinced of religions.

There was a study recently that I found fascinating. They did MRIs on people's brains, and asked them their religious preferences, which (coming from a bible belt state) were Athiest, agnostic, Protestant, Catholic, and fundamentalist. They found that athiests and fundamentalists had smaller hippocampuses than agnostics, Catholics, or Protestants.

There sure seem to be a lot of evangelical athiests at slashdot, seemingly interjecting religion into every topic, no matter how off the topic they are (and they still get modded up by their fellow zealots).

The most devoutly religious are those who worship money. I'm ok with athiests, I'll pity them and laugh at them while they're pitying and laughing at me, but money worshipers make me sad and angry.

e.g. atheists pushing climate regulation. why ? it won't crash before you're dead

"Survival of the species is everybody's business." -- A Child's Garden of Grass: A Pre-legalization Comedy (audio version)

Comment Re:And the other reason is... (Score 1) 397

and had made the interface so that everything wasn't buried 3 dialogs deep

That's one of the problems I have with ALL Microsoft products and one reason why I wouldn't buy a Microsoft phone. MS is terrible at useability, but their marketing department is so good that they've convinced most everybody that they're user-friendly, when they're downright user-hostile.

The only folks I know of who make a worse interface is most of the dweebs who set up DVDs. First you have an unskippable piracy warning, then trailers, often unskippable themselves. Then a menu with two minutes of music before the actual menu comes up -- which contains only two items, the PG rated version of the movie and the unrated version. Then yet another version with "play movie", chapter selection, audio selection, and special features. Go into the special features or chapter selection and it's likely to be several layers deep. IMO it's retarded.

Comment Re:"Earlier than expected"? (Score 1) 421

The universe loves organisms

Very likely, but unproven. The Earth loves organisms, Mars not so much. If and when we find life elsewhere in the solar system you can say the solar system loves organisms and the galaxy probably does. If (big if considering the speed of light and distances between star systems) we find life in other solar systems, we can say the galaxy loves organisms. It will be a LONG time before we can say with certainty that the entire universe loves organisms.

It's far more likely we'll find extraterrestrial organisms than not, but to say "the universe loves organisms" is a bit premature.

Comment Re:"Earlier than expected"? (Score 1) 421

So basically the projections were wrong, but the culprit is the evil consumer who does not recycle his soup can

If you'd said "beer can" you would have a point, as it takes five or ten times as much electricity to produce aluminum from ore as it does to recycle. Soup cans are mostly made of steel, and throwing them away does nothing to harm the environment. To nature, and old unrecycled soup can is just another rock, but an old unrecycled aluminum can causes global warming to worsen.

And by "earlier than expected" they mean earlier than science projected them to.

Comment Re:Invisible hand of the free market (Score 1) 435

People like to invest in things that don't seem completely like magic

You mean like computers? A few years ago when my nephew was four, he asked my sister how computers work. She just shrugged and said "it's magic". Do you think the average person has a clue how a radio works? Or a TV? Or even an automobile engine? Sorry, but you're going to have to explain why you think people don't like magical devices, because damned near everything is non-understandable and just "magic" to the average person.

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