Amiga's president unexpectedly resigns 116
TuxDaddy writes "Jim Collas has resigned as president of Amiga-however
no details are available yet.
" Well, let the speculation machine run rampant-is Amiga serious? Is there anything happening with them?Update: 09/01 07:42 by H :Well, they've announced their new president as Tim Schmidt. Collas has left to "pursue personal interests".
Amiga Pie (Score:1)
... and this one time... at band camp.. we were talking about bringing back the Amiga.. and it was.. like.. so cool...
... Hey guys!. I know what we could do... we could like... tell lies about the Amiga.. but this time.. say the lies backwards... that would be so cool... like: "Revolution new the start will we." That would be sooo funny..
Re:The Curse Of the Amiga - TI too (Score:1)
There was always interesting projects done by people in the TI field doing revolutionary software or hardware, but then, suddenly out of nowhere, the author dies, or gets completely fed up with the TI scene, and disappears altogether.
Re:Collas out.. (Score:2)
Just one nit to pick... the Amiga isn't tightly coupled with NTSC/PAL at all. Many Amiga users with graphics cards haven't seen an Amiga chipset screenmode in years. Heck, the Draco Amiga clone didn't even have all that hardware. The Amiga does indeed have a few problems with being held back by legacy concerns, but graphics/display isn't one of them.
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Have a Sloppy day!
Real Amiga People? (Score:2)
Here's where he went! Atari! (Score:1)
It's going to be amazing stuff. They've been demoing a prototype running a new version of Star Raiders at 1600x1280 on stereoscopic goggles. It's fully immersive, especially if you use the full-body tactile suit.
McEwen is out too (Score:1)
http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/local/31_8mcewen
A2000 (Score:1)
Gratuitous Startrek-Like Quote. (Score:1)
Steve Jobs: There you are! Revenge!
(Stabs Amiga with new G4-virus poisoned Klingon Knife)
Amiga: Ahhh!
Kirk: Emergency beam up, now!
(Weeooohoowoo)
(In transporter room)
Bones: 20ccs of Torvaldsisol...
(Injects Amiga, Amiga seems to struggle for life, but then stops moving).
Bones: She's dead, Jim...
Jim: Damn. I guess I find a new job now.
So much for Jim's job
Precisely! (Score:2)
Except of course that Jay Miner is still dead... Who else could they get?
Still dead, you say? Ahh, but that's what Transmeta's really working on!
Berlin-- http://www.berlin-consortium.org [berlin-consortium.org]
This is no TROLL... (Offtopic: Nick) (Score:2)
Yup, just like SGI (Score:1)
Step 1: Witness your business struggling. Step 2: In a last ditch effort, embrace Linux. Step 3: Watch your company leader leave posthaste as your company crumbles.
Cheers,
ZicoKnows@hotmail.com
Re:Hmm! (Score:1)
Re:Get out while the getting is good... (Score:1)
As for the supercomputer thing, well, it's obvoulsy marketing speak BS, but it will be intersting to see a P3, Athlon and G4 benchmarks.
Anyways, this is totally offtopic, I can't wait for the next installment of the Amiga soap opera.
Optimistic (Score:1)
Fast forward to today. I imagine a room full of Gateway execs looking at the goings on and deciding that something has got to change. I also imagine a bunck of Amiga execs wishing that the spotlight would go away so they can get some work done. So they get rid of Collas to return some sanity to the workplace. Anyone else out there buy this?
If the Amiga is so dead, why are we all still here talking about it? I was a great concept that we refuse to let die.
Although, I am really enjoying my G3!
Re:Well... (Score:1)
Re:My Lame 2 cents (Score:1)
My thoughts as paraphrased... (Score:1)
C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
O: No no! 'E's pining!
C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
Shamelessly stolen from Monty Python
Re:Let it die. (Score:1)
Re:This is a publicity stunt (Score:1)
Re:My Lame 2 cents (Score:2)
Seriously I had read an account that a presentation that Amiga was giving used the name "Transmeta" in it. The people giving the presentation would not comment on it.
Re:The real reason Collas left... (Score:1)
Re: algorithm (Score:1)
Amiga (Score:2)
Re:WE WILL FIGHT ON FOREVER AND NEVER SURRENDER. (Score:1)
Re:Collas out.. (Score:2)
Well, that is true, but then again, when doom came to those products, the companies quit building and selling them.
But then no-one has said they will develop the Classic hardware, but they will support it as long as it is feasible.
Actually I've seen more than a few Amiga fans suggest that (at least as an interim step) they more-or-less reintroduce the 'classic' hardware with a few hot-rod type features. Personally I don't think that would be a very commercially viable thing to do since it is unlikely anyone other than a few Amiga diehards would buy one. Especially given the retooling costs, I don't think that they could be built at a reasonable price and still have enough features and performance to be competitive with current PC clone and/or Mac hardware.
Also, there are several Amiga companies working on PPC systems (although IMHO the early "PowerUP" cards are rather poor), with 68k emulation & porting parts of the OS to PPC.
That sort of approach would have made sense to do around the time that Apple made their 68K->PPC transition, but it seems a little late in the game to do it now.
Axed because.... (Score:1)
QA? What's that?
Transmeta? Don't hold your breath - VC sponsored wankfest with no product to be ever delivered.
Re:Well... (Score:1)
Hmm! (Score:1)
Get out while the getting is good... (Score:1)
The Curse Of the Amiga (Score:1)
Maybe it's for the best (Score:1)
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Full story here. (Score:3)
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*sigh* (Score:1)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
Excellent News! (Score:1)
THANK GOODNESS.
Now maybe Amiga can get back to developing a WORTHWHILE ALTERNATIVE.
Good riddance Collas.
Re:Well... (Score:2)
Well... (Score:3)
Collas out.. (Score:2)
Or maybe they just fucked up and are about to bankrupt again...
Hey! (Score:2)
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Re:The Curse Of the Amiga (Score:2)
Hmmm... I am not sure who is victim and who is villan here, according to what some people have said about this guy.
Even if they were to bring product to market today, would anyone have enough faith in the company to purchase it?
No way. I never trusted Commodore enough to buy anything from them. I trusted Escom even less. I've been wondering if Amiga will somehow end up killing Gateway since they bought the corpse of Amiga.
Somewhere, Mehdi Ali is laughing at all of this...
Laughing while he counts his ill-gotten gains, no doubt. On the other hand, hindsight being what it is, I don't see that things would have been that much different in the long run had Commodore and Escom had less incompetent and/or corrupt management.
Re:Collas out.. (Score:2)
Many of the custom chips in the 'classic' Amigas are built to operate on frequencies derived from NTSC/PAL signals that don't make sense if you are running with a PC style video card. This is true even for things like the Zorro bus timing, sound and floppy disk control.
Many Amiga users with graphics cards haven't seen an Amiga chipset screenmode in years.
One of the few niche markets that the Amiga was moderately successful in was video production, where NTSC/PAL video modes make sense. Unfortunately for Amiga, as I point out, NTSC/PAL are going to get phased out in favor of HDTV in the next few years so that will be a dying market.
Heck, the Draco Amiga clone didn't even have all that hardware.
And how compatible was it with the typical hardware-hammering software of the 'classic' Amiga period?
The Amiga does indeed have a few problems with being held back by legacy concerns, but graphics/display isn't one of them.
Unfortunately for the Amiga, if you are going to use a graphics chipset designed for a x86 PC clone as most of the Amiga video cards do, you lose one of the major differentiators of the Amiga hardware, which was all of the video coprocessors. Also unfortunately for the Amiga, its custom video hardware isn't all that impressive compared to the current state of the art in the x86 PC world.
Re: Hmm. First Amiga Goes Silent... (Score:2)
Re:Precisely! (Score:2)
They'd be better off calling the 'Psychic Fraud^h^h^heinds Network then.
Re:Wake up call. Amiga is DEAD. (Score:1)
But that was a long time ago...
There's still features the Amiga had I miss, and wish there were clean implementations of on Linux:
Filesystem assigns, datatypes, a graphics subsystem with an easy to use API (X is way to clunky), scrollable "screens" with different resolutions and colour depth visible at the same time (allthough Enlightenment comes close to that one :), Arexx (allthough I hated the language itself, the system was easy to use, and lots of scripts were available so it was seldom I had to resort to writing any).
And I miss Cygnus Ed.... I've still not found another editor I'm happy with.. Jed is the closest, but I'd still take CED any day. And I miss Asmone etc. too. Simple, elegant and fast - not as heave as DDD, and not nearly as cryptic as running gdb directly.
Not to mention that I miss programming Amiga E. Now THAT was a nice programming language. Anyone know of a language with similar features? And as clean a syntax? C is a mess... And C++ even worse...
Sigh. Maybe I'll dig my A3000 out of the closet for nostalgias sake.
Re:The Curse Of the Amiga - TI too (Score:1)
The basic language that came with the machine was alright, but it lacked any sort of peek or poke command. There was no way to program to the hardware without getting some expensive assembler cartridge. It was also dog slow compared to the competition. The an empty for-next loop iterated about 180 times per second.
And if you breathed on the cartridge when it was in the slot the machine would crash.
The "curse" of the TI was simply a bunch of pissed off users yelling "FUCK" because they just lost a lot of work in a crash.
Re:Schmidt appointed new Amiga president (Score:2)
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Sounds like the basis of a new game` (Score:1)
Re:Hardly surprising is it? (Score:1)
Let's just be thankful that no-one asked them to arrange a piss-up in a brewery.
My Lame 2 cents (Score:3)
Gotta admit, there is no basis for this guess, but what basis do you have for Amiga using a Transmeta Super CPU, and becoming the ultimate graphic workstation of the year 2000? People seem to believe that with no evidence, why not just accept they are doing nothing exciting at all?
for $50? (Score:1)
Re:Well... (Score:1)
Re:Real Amiga People? (Score:1)
I was a die-hard PC fan, just bought myself a brand-new Compaq Presario 600, 486-DX2 CPU. I was rocken w/ 256 colors. I thought nothing could toast me.
Then I saw my first Amiga.
It was nothing too spectacular, an Amiga 3000. Commodore had been bankrupt and gone for 5 months at this point, but this little 25Mhz box was ripping my 66Mhz box a new posterior. I felt jipped.
What did I do?
I kept on using my Compaq, upset that it wasn't the coolest or the smartest thing since sliced bread.
After that, I bought myself another PC, Pentium 166. Thought "Aha, I can beat that Amiga now" so I went to my friends house again. Nope, couldn't do it.
Guess what I did then... I bought myself an Amiga! Amiga 1200 w/ PPC/060 card. I've had problems with workbench, but otherwise, the machine is fine. I had never worked on such a logical machine before.
When I'd heard that Gateway had bought the Amiga, I groaned. I knew that Gateway couldn't bring out a decent product. So far, all indications say that I am right.
Something about the Amiga is different than any other computer. It's not the OS, it's not the hardware. It's the fact that everything works together. No PC or Mac in the world can do the same feat, nor will they ever. They're designed by committe, not by inspiration. The "new Amiga" is no inspired design, not from the likes of gateway. It is yet another "ok folks, what can we hack together to make money with?"
One day, the Amiga's concepts will live again, in some new machine w/o an Amiga logo on it. Probably won't even be backwards compatable. Actually, I'll guarantee that it's not. But, the ideology will be the same. Integrate, cooperate and distribute.
My 2-bits
IBM is cool (Score:1)
Re:Let it die. (Score:1)
Re:WE WILL FIGHT ON FOREVER AND NEVER SURRENDER. (Score:1)
Re:Hmm! (Score:1)
Re:Collas out.. (Score:2)
The classic Amiga is doomed in the long run by its tight coupling with NTSC/PAL video and custom hardware tied to that legacy. NTSC and PAL are soon going to be dead as they are replaced by HDTV. The Amiga is also aflicted by goofy hardware driven by compromises Commodore made to be 'cheap' that only made sense in the 80's (like the bizare floppy drive hardware), but don't make sense today. And also by the essentially dead (68K, RIP) processor architecture it was tied to.
A lot of these things could have been overcome if someone had been working continuously on them (as Apple overcame many of the same problems -- proprietary floppy->standard and 68K->PPC). Unfortunately for Amiga, they essentially stood still from about 1993 until recently. Six years is practically three lifetimes in the computer business.
Now I get it! (Score:3)
Maybe they should hire Gil Amelio. He can hire on an original Amiga founder, get dumped, and the other fella can take over as iCEO...
Re:Get out while the getting is good... (Score:2)
Re:Sorta crushes my idea of buying a new amiga (Score:1)
It's not impossible that he genuinely has resigned for legit reasons, given what the Amiga community's like. I know, I'm still on the fringes of it myself.
I'm still asking myself whether he was jumped or pushed though. He's annoyed me already with the Linux decision which, realistic as it may be, substantially reduced the probability of it turning out anything revolutionary. Downgraded a near-certain purchase to a fairly likely one. Nonetheless, he seems to have made some good decisions too, so I dunno.
Either way, this alone shouldn't influence my likelihood of getting one and I can't see why it should for anyone else.
Greg
This is becoming a freaking soap opera... (Score:5)
Last time, Amiga was released from the hospital after a miraculous recovery from total paralysis and amnesia to be reuinted with Jim, her husband. The couple decided to adopt the little orphan Linux. Now, on their first night together after the car accident that separated them, she finds Jim cold and distant...
[Amiga] What's the matter, Jim? Don't you love me?[Jim] No... Amiga... I'm sorry, but you're just not the same woman I fell in love with
[Amiga] It's that hussy Apple, isn't it?! Her and those flashy G4s...
[Jim] I
[Amiga] ADMIT IT!@#$
[Jim] I can't lie to you
[Amiga] You bastard! GET OUT#(@$&*(@# GET OUT OF MY HOUSE(#@*($#@
* Jim slams the door
* Amiga sobs
Tune in tomorrow for another episode of As The Workbench Turns...
Berlin-- http://www.berlin-consortium.org [berlin-consortium.org]
Let it die. (Score:1)
Re:Yup, just like SGI (Score:1)
Just because QNX decided to pretend that they'd not been dropped and bring out their tech just before the Amiga was finally announced properly, doesn't mean that was a last minute decision.
I think it was quite a wise decision personally as linux has more developer mindshare (to coin a phrase), there are fewer licence restrictions and if you believe the rumours it is not as if Linus Torvalds is not too far away to get advice from, is it?
Why don't we al wait till November to see what is released, or if you're impatient, the next press release? Might save premature obituaries.
This is a publicity stunt (Score:1)
When an Amiga is released, everyone will be so amazed, that we'll have to buy one just to see that it is real.
phrase (Score:1)
you did not coin that phrase. Someone else did, you are just using it. don't be exspressionaly illiterate! (to coin a phrase)
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
The real reason Collas left... (Score:1)
BTW, the math gives him something like $11.2 million from that stock deal.
The Real Story (Score:3)
In other news, Sapphire and Steel (the British version of the X-Files) will also be returning, this time as the new joint presidents of the Amiga. Apparently, mixing the old and the new was causing a timebreak, and will require the sacrifice of AmigaOS and two christmas party hats.
The new Amiga was last seen in the Bahamas, in the company of Gillian Anderson. Rumours of an electronic affair were denied, but reports suggest Gillian may be getting a surgically-implanted network port for her left arm.
Re:Excellent News! (Score:1)
Re:Now I get it! (Score:2)
Hey, Gil is still available I think.
He can hire on an original Amiga founder, get dumped, and the other fella can take over as iCEO...
Except of course that Jay Miner is still dead... Who else could they get?
Hardly surprising is it? (Score:1)
Schmidt appointed new Amiga president (Score:2)
Amiga said Wednesday it had appointed Tom Schmidt as it's new president to replace Jim Collas who unexpectedly resigned from the company. A spokesman for the company said Collas had resigned to persue personal interests.