Novell Story Site Launched 75
An anonymous reader writes "Novell launched a Linux/Open Source story page where everyone can briefly describe how he/she helps pushing Linux or Open Source forward. For every submission a marker is set on a world map. You can also win prices, among them, although yet not mentioned on the page, 50 SLED 10 licenses."
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Useful (Score:4, Funny)
Just what I need, more prices.
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Other prizes. (prices?) (Score:3, Informative)
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Your impression was incorrect. Linux plays very nicely with ipods (nicer than itunes even) - its just itunes music store and the crud downloaded from there that can be problematic.
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Viral (Score:4, Insightful)
And of course the way a viral campaign really spreads is if you tell people. So if you feel this is important to promote and you want it to get more press, then write about it on your blogs.
No, I don't work for Novell, but I am involved in advertising and viral advertising in particular and I'm hoping that by explaining how we can harness this, people won't just jump down their throats and start bitching out all advertising in general, and slashvertising etc.
Marketing is not "bad". (Score:2)
This attempt at "viral marketing" is stupid because your chance of winning anything DECREASES as it spreads.
Not to mention that they really need different levels of participants. If Linus enters his story, but all the prizes go to people who "evangelize" Linux
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Which is not the case this time.
"This attempt at "viral marketing" is stupid because your chance of winning anything DECREASES as it spreads."
Isn't that the way most contests work?
" Not to mention that they really need different levels of participants. If Linus enters his story, but all the prizes go to people who "evangelize" Linux .... yeah, that's dumb."
The whole point of the contest is for people to say good things about Linux. That's what is be
From the article (Score:3, Informative)
Or... (Score:2)
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I'm sure you weren't trying to compare Ubuntu's free support with SuSe's paid support, that's unpossible!
My Story (Score:2)
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Even better: http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html [openbsd.org]
Open Source Contributors Anonymous... (Score:3, Funny)
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We are also very sorry that you do not know anything about SuSE, the difference between SLED and OpenSuSE, and what the license is actually used for.
Now that you know you are lacking in the necessary knowledge to make the statement that you did, please go educate yourself using the free resources located at http://www.google.com/ [google.com] http://www.novell.com/linux [novell.com], and http://www.opensuse.org./ [www.opensuse.org]
Good luck on your mission.
Non-US not welcome (Score:3, Informative)
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I was there a couple of weeks ago, I can assure you that they are correct
A Scotsman
Ideas? (Score:3, Insightful)
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* customer demand vs.
* technology push
I am a customer. I don't want technology imposed on me. I liked Suse and I want to continue to use it. Opensuse.org is only "translated to German". This sents a negative message to the German market, which is that Suse lost one of its features.
Next they will further shorter the Suse manual, support Gnome only, add mono dependencies,
1) Novell, or better SUSE listens to its customers.
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Now are you still so upset? Do you STILL think Suse is letting KDE support fall by the wayside and not paying any attention to its users' needs/wants?
BTW, what ever gave you the idea that Gnome is a **default** in the new versions? In SLED maybe, but certainly not in OpenSuse. (Unless you consider a default radio button nex
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Just take XGL. RedHat did the proper solution AIGLX. But Novell developed XGL in a closed manner and Friedman presented XGL as a Gnome-only "showcase" and made a lot of fuzz. KDE to follow....
We all know that AIGLX is the future and will get included in X. But Friedman wanted to advance the show and the worst case is that XGL survives and we will have AIGLX
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"Novell presented a new menu for Gnome. It is really ugly..."
It's also optional.
"Friedman wanted to advance the show and the worst case is that XGL survives and we will have AIGLX and XGL in parallel....Be sure Novell will standardise on XGL..."
Your claim is incorrect. In fact, I recently interviewed Friedman at LinuxWo [novell.com]
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What is true?
* Friedman presented the 3d Desktop
* Novell developed it in a closed manner.
* They gave Gnome an artifical competitive advantage
* They did it as a Novell showcase.
The ugly(my taste) 'optional' menu is also bad from a Gnome user perspective. Because Gnome has an unique default feel which is 'not bad', not at all. But here Gnome gets a menu whic
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That articulates your concerns much more clearly. Thanks. I don't expect to change your opinion, but perhaps I can provide insight into how and why Novell operates the way it does. I speak here from my personal perspective, and not as a cannonical voice.
* Friedman presented the 3d Desktop, Novell developed it in a closed manner.
If I understand it correctly, Xgl/Compiz was originally being developed in open source. David Reveman, the maintainer of Xgl and Compiz, has reported to me that he
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In any case, I'm glad they're improving Gnome support along with KDE simultaneously. Gnome needs more help, whereas KDE doesn't as much. I'm also glad that they're rewriting Yast--the important thing is that they're improving it,
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---> Users think KDE was slow.
+ Novell introduces dependcies on immature Ximian technology
KDE prepares strigi, tenor etc. I guess Novell will not respect that. No, they will impose Beagle so that a better tool has no chance. They want Mono dependencies. You don't like it? You think it's too slow. Oh well, subscribe to the mailing list and contribute.
Next?
Kontact is canceled, Evolution becomes defaul
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It's hard to predict the future, so maybe you're right there. You know, I don't mind them improving their GTK support. Though I personally think Gnome it's far, far inferior to KDE's technology, I've very little against it and I
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No. Novell is _still_ putting efforts into KDE because actual customers (Suse customers) demanded it. No one asked for Gnome.
"KDE is great if you love to customize, but Gnome just works, when alot of the time you have to edit settings to get KDE to work right"
That's typical Gnome bullshit. Even if it was true, that job would be up to Novell, not the user.
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Novell looks for a new market and they destroy the old core market of Suse. They turn a soccer club into basket ball just because they also had a basket ball group. It is difficult to turn a Soccer fan into a basket ball fan. So Novell looks for new cusomers. But who will serv
Something's not right about this. (Score:1)
OK, we have a contest for people who contribute to open source software, and the prize is a license for proprietary closed-source software. What's wrong with this picture?
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Re: Something's not right about this. (Score:2, Informative)
Maybe you're looking through dirty lenses?
SLED10 is far from proprietary. I posted an update on my blog [wordpress.com] about this mischaracterization. I'm hoping that you will be willing to read it and reconsider.
England invalid? (Score:1)
Well, I tried the signup but to my surprise "England is not a recognised country". Even though I picked it from their drop down box and it was quite clearly visible and zoomed in on the map.
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> I picked it from their drop down box and it was quite clearly visible and zoomed in on the map.
And SuSE used to be an European company...
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This reminds me: why is it that Americans think England is a country? I'm sure they'd think it odd if I put a form on my site that listed "Texas" separately from "United States." I'm glad I'm not Scottish, Irish or Welsh.
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Erm... Because it is a country? I refer you to an authority [number-10.gov.uk] on the matter.
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My contribution? (Score:1)
I just tell everyone to get rid of the zen/zmd crap and install Smart ( http://labix.org/smart [labix.org] ). This way, they can also enjoy one of the best distributions available today, only held back by your stupid screw-ups.
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Joo-boon-too (Score:3, Funny)
However, you won't win any prices, so you won't have to pay
Once... (Score:2)
In 2004 we went back to burning our own, Somebody in Oakland dropped the ball during the merger (likely the Oakland office closed).
Last summer and this we got Ubuntu, as many as we wished.
Well, we'r
Accused as Being Proprietary? (Score:3, Informative)
An OpenSUSE user (Score:2)
I'm just another opensuse user (actually I'm relatively recent user having avoided SUSE for years due to the inability to download the ISOs for free). As I'm an administrator of a few (60+) opensuse desktops too, I'm going to guess that the not-ready component you included was novell-zmd right? That thing is painful... Is it as slow for you as it is for me? Why does it go to sleep? People who think yum is slow should give this thing a whirl just after boot... Plus I never thought I'd say this but
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Regarding the updater, indeed that was the piece in question. Patches have been put out, and it's performing well now. But negative publicity on it continues. >sigh
Not sure about the change on the Xgl keybinding. If you use the mouse wheel to zoom in, then you only need to hold the "super" key in order to pan about. Probably you already know that.
Again, thanks.
--Ted
http://reverendted.wordpress.com
Correction: Accused as Being Proprietary? (Score:1)
SLES Roadshow (Score:2)
I don't know when the mapping thing was set up, but I imagine it's got something to do with the Roadshow - getting an idea of how many people would attend, perhaps?
There aren't many people (maybe 6?) around my city (Dallas, TX) that are mapped.
phhht you can keep the reward (Score:2)
/. affect in place (Score:1)