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Oracle to Boost AJAX, Java 25

InfoWorldMike writes "Oracle will submit its AJAX render kit to the open source community, and announce a reference implementation of the Java Persistence Architecture at next week's JavaOne conference." From the article: "To bolster AJAX, Oracle will submit its AJAX render kit to the open source community as a follow-up to a previous donation of JavaServer Faces (JSF) components. 'It allows people to work with the JSF components but [they] can display that using AJAX technology, which basically allows them to [have] a much richer environment in the browser,' said Ted Farrell, chief architect and vice president of tools and middleware at Oracle. "
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Oracle to Boost AJAX, Java

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  • grar (Score:4, Insightful)

    by GigsVT ( 208848 ) on Friday May 12, 2006 @11:45AM (#15318124) Journal
    Am I the only one that cringes when people say they want to give me a "richer environment"?
    • Re:grar (Score:3, Interesting)

      by baadger ( 764884 )
      a richer environment is what you give plants when you give in the form of manure.
    • AJAX and techs of it's ilk are providing corporate developers the tools to better address business requirements and do it faster. Part of the long-term stateless web-based app dev that we've been suffering through since the client/server days has been presentation and smarter data delivery between the user and the back-end.

      I've never been one to jump on bandwagons, but AJAX really does make not only my job easier, but the 'richer' apps make the business-side end-user's job easier as well.

  • When I was working on the PMD [] plugin for JDeveloper I had some problems getting it up to date for JDev 10.1.3. But a couple of Oracle guys monitor the JDev forums and were quite helpful in sorting through the updates.

    End result was that I was able to get rid of a bunch of my old JList hackery and just use their built in CompilerPage component; good times. Screenshots [] are here...
  • That's the sound a thousands of Java devs thinking "so what".

    Oracle *really* wants to be seen as a market leader in java, but the last time they did anything really innovative was Java Stored Procedures, and that was the 1990s. The only people I've ever met who use Oracle Java products (eg Oracle Application Server) were people who liked being wined and dined by a sales rep. I've never met anyone who did their own performance tests and ended up choosing OAS.

    Happy to be proven wrong, but 7+ years since the l
    • In TFA there is a link to Grails [] , which is slightly different than jumping on the Java bandwagon. The Grails base is Groovy [], which is a promising (still little immature) dynamic language. I think Java developers better take a look on the changing world, otherwise they will end up as their COBOL ancestors. Similarity: how many big-iron J2EE servers were 3 years ago, and how many were "upgraded" to Dells running whatever-app on Linux.
    • Although the parent post could be thought of as a troll, I think it's just a typical response by someone that hasn't kept up with Oracle. If you think it's 7+ years since Oracle's done anything in the Java market, then you haven't been paying attention.

      OAS was discontinued several (3?) years ago. It was crap. Oracle acknowledged it, bought the code for the Orion app server, updated it, added functionality, and released it as their app server. It's a very powerful product, and has very good performanc []

    • My point was that Oracle haven't done anything *innovative*. Toplink was bought by Oracle in 2002, long after hibernate became popular. Nothing innovative in buying something.

      Grails seems like more evidence of the same M.O. from what I can see. Wait till something's cool then buy it ... that's the behvaiour of a venture capitalist, not a market leader in java.
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  • Is the part about grails []... This is starting to look intresting, and would allow me to combine my lust for Ruby on Rails with my knowledge of all things java... And since it runs in a J2EE appserver I bet companies would actually use it... Groovy is looking very nice now that they have figured out some of the syntax issues... I would love to have closures and method injection for some of my code, and typesafe java everywhere else...
  • The truth is more like write once, crawl anywhere. Years ago, Oracle used a Windows installer to install their Windows client, etc. Then they switched to a Java-based installer for all supported OS's. It sucked dead bunnies through a garden hose. Installing the client went from a few minutes to a couple of hours. It was also so painful and complex, that our office stopped asking people like me ("power user") to install Oracle client and turned over Oracle client installation to CS staff. All this so O
    • Well, the Java installer for Oracle 10g (10.0.2) worked just fine for me last week. On Linux (and also on Windows NT too). At least they killed the Y2K problem in the Oracle 8.0 installer.

      The web-based OEM is pretty nice as well.
  • to get evaporated after a typical Oracle's approach.

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