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cote finally sent us a candidate worth voting for: Joseph Fitzpatrick Fitzgerald Fitzhenry Quimby! He's anti gun control (but pro bullet control) and his tax plan is perfect! (With our first week of election coverage finally wrapped up, I needed the laugh).
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
I must concur fully! That's what makes the episodes I listed what I would consider to be "classics". No humor that references topics that will come and go in the next 10 years.
Someone moderate this guy up!
The Decline of the Simpsons (Score:3)
The cause? Ian Maxtone-Graham.
Ian Maxy-Pad and the other amateur's who've been brought in to write for the Simpsons will gladly destroy characterizations built up over years in pursuit of a few laughs for poor jokes. In a 1998 interview, Graham admitted he didn't even watch the Simpson's before he was brought in to write for it. Perhaps it's worth noting that Graham also wrote for SNL, and left that program in shambles when he left.
I suggest everyone write to Fox, and demand the ouster of Fagboy-Graham and the current crop of shitty writers. Bring back Conan. Bring back the other decent writers. Even new writers who have at least seen the first four seasons are better than the assholes who are now writing the Simpsons.
You forgot to mention: (Score:1)
"This slashdot posting payed for by the commitee to elect Diamond Joe Quimby."
Re:Quimby2000.com doesn't support Linux (Score:1)
Re:Carnivore Review Toothless skipped for this??? (Score:1)
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Debates (Score:2)
BRAK, OOG, and Slashdot Cruiser are all viable candidates for the US Presidency. Personally, I was going to vote Nader, but I would much rather vote BRAK, if only to get funding for the Cartoon Network!
So, in this election, vote your conscience.
ALL HAIL BRAK!
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Re:George Meyer (Score:1)
(what this means, AC, is that it does not go up when a comment is moderated up. In fact, my posting it twice just increases the likelyhood that one or both will be marked "Redundant", thus reducing my precious, precious karma)
Repeating an interesting post as a topic that came up inside a thread is a common and accepted practice in usenet, you know.
The truth is, I really enjoyed the article. It's well-written (it was in the new yorker) and I thought a lot of slashdotters would like it. If you want to know what I think about karma, look at this post I made a while back [slashdot.org].
so basically, go to hell.
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Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
The Simpsons goes quite some way to crushing that notion.
Re:I don't think so.. (Score:1)
(Hasbro owns Parker Brothers, makers of Monopoly. See SatireWire [satirewire.com] for details on Hasbro's new printers.)
Vote Quimby (Score:3)
Quimby: Demand? Who are you to demand anything? I run this town. You're just a bunch of low-income nobodies!
Assistant: Uh, election in November. Election in November...
Quimby: What? Again!? This stupid country.
Watch Futurama (Score:1)
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Re:Watch Futurama (Score:1)
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Re:I don't think so.. (Score:1)
Re:I don't think so.. (Score:1)
Re: I concur,... (Score:1)
Re:Timeline (Score:1)
and then...
1978 - Joe Quimby reluctantly graduates from college, after his father threatens to take away his girlfriend.
I guess that Joe Quimby Sr. was a very influential man.
And who says that Joe Sr. is actually Joe Jr.'s dad?
What, you're going to believe a politician's web site?
Jay (=
My Simpsons takes ... (Score:1)
... yeah, I agree, a lot of the more recent episodes are not as good ... still, there is a gem here and there ... I hadn't thought about the guest angle aspect, but I think that is a perceptive assessment ... my wife seems to think that the last several years episodes start out fine for the 1st 5-10 minutes and are a hoot, but the remainder of the show sucks ...
My favorite episodes ... here goes ... not in any particular order ...
Some of the worst episodes have been indeed recent episodes - the one where Homer and Flanders go to Vegas, I can't think of ones right now but there have been more than a few stinkers lately ...
Re:Wrong! (Score:1)
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Re:Timeline (Score:2)
Weeeeeeell, it doesn't say his dead body, does it?
Haiku (Score:1)
The internet's true founder:
Vote Professor Frink [lowb.org]
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:2)
The real genius behind the Simpsons is George Myer and his fellow writers from Harvard's Lampoon and Army Man. I think most of them are gone.
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Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:3)
Diamond Joe is l33t! (Score:1)
"Hey, who's the chick in the third row?" -- Diamond Joe, speaking on Wacking Day, Springfield
Re:Quimby2000.com doesn't support Linux (Score:2)
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
I dont think Simpons is like this at all...One of the large parts of the appeal of the Simpsons seems to be that you can not get the reference at all, and its still funny! That is why kids can enjoy the Simpsons, as well as adults.
But he didn't thing of this!: (Score:1)
Re:I don't think so.. (Score:2)
i like this guy even better (Score:1)
Sounds like a good write in protest vote... (Score:1)
>br> Seems Mickey Mouse didn't fit the bill.
In the words of the comics guy... (Score:2)
Wow! Finally somebody worth wasting a vote for! (Score:2)
Gun Control...Bah! (Score:4)
Re:Duke2000.com (Score:1)
If its Bush, Gore or Quimby... (Score:3)
You can have Gore's "Fuzzy Math", Bush's "Lock Box" or Quimby's "CHOWDA!"
If you want a good candidate, Vote Quimby!
Wow! (Score:1)
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
You're just moaning because The Simpsons is referring to pop culture instead of something more esoteric. You're entitled to dislike the thing, but "They don't make 'em like they used to" is a tired old song.
Most comedy is "about" something. Sometimes the idea is strong enough that it will support an entire series (I'll grant you Fawlty Towers is in this category) and sometimes it's not. Hardly a terrible fault.
So is the new star trek any better or worse than the old one ? Have another look in 20 years and they'll both be better than whatever remake just hit your screens/holoprojector/neural implant.
Dang it... (Score:1)
And for VP? (Score:1)
"I created the Internet" - Al Gore
"Its potatoe, not potato" - Dan Quayle
"Some people have too much freedom" - George W.
"My cats breath smells like catfood" - Ralph
Re:I don't think so.. (Score:1)
Re:George Meyer (Score:1)
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A write in Candidate? (Score:1)
Well I'm going to write him in just for his tax plans... We should up the amount of H1-B visas for his immigration plan too
"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten."
-- George Carlin
Peace, prosperity, and massive corruption (Score:1)
Sounds a lot like our non-toon government. Bring us prosperity and you can have all the blowjobs in the Oval office you want! If the economy had turned sour though, I doubt if Quim^H^H er... Clinton would have survived.
I watch the sea.
I saw it on TV.
Re:Quimby2000.com doesn't support Linux (Score:1)
I'm using Netscape Communicator 4.72 on Linux. I had no problems viewing the site
Re:hello news for nerds (Score:1)
News for nerds. Stuff that matters*.
*stuff that matters to those with a measurable IQ
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Re:Bah!.. (Score:1)
Re:My Simpsons takes ... (Score:1)
Trash of the Titans was season 10 (the one coming up this year is 12), and I really enjoyed Treehouse of Horror X (Y2K, The Collector and I Know What You Diddly-Did Last Summer) and Brother's Little Helper.
Again, they pulled the celebrity card (Mark McGuire at the end of Brother's Little Helper and Xena and Tom Arnold (celeb? you make the call) in Treehouse X), but overall, good episodes with great one liners.
Re:And for VP? (Score:1)
(Watch the first couple of episodes, then respond.)
Re:Quimby2000.com doesn't support Linux (Score:1)
Picture of him. (Score:1)
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Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:2)
I have a theory that the reason for this is the feminisation of modern entertainment. Everything now has to be comfortable, known and within safe boundaries. Another example of this would be Star Trek (not humour, I know). It used to have people of real character - Kirk, Spock, Bones etc - and almost every episode involved travelling to new planets and having new experiences. But, in TNG, they hardly ever visit new planets! They are always getting trapped in their damned holodeck, stuck in their own minds. Everything is directed inwards, rather than outwards, towards the frontier. This inward directed cancer of self reference seems to be spreading throughout our entertainment industry, and it's really pissing me off!
Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.
90th POST! (Score:1)
Shut the fuck up! (Score:1)
Re:Carnivore Review Toothless skipped for this??? (Score:1)
Re:Quimby2000.com doesn't support Linux (Score:1)
Re:Shut the fuck up! (Score:1)
Phoey on these small fry! (Score:2)
Have any other candidates released their dental records to the press? I think not! Gotta wonder what they're hiding, eh?
...And if you think Vermin's a joke, you should see the other candidates!
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:2)
Btw, it's Meyer, I misspelled it before.
Here's a long story about George Meyer, who is a comic genius and a really cool guy. It's long, but a great read.
http://www.snpp.com/other/interviews/meyer00.ht
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Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:2)
1) Their references are necessary - if you don't get the reference, you don't get the joke
2) The references of older shows are to a wider, or common pool of knowledge among everyone. If not, they are subtle, and not necessary
3) Modern shows make references about other Modern shows and 'fads', which older shows just didn't
4)In modern shows these references are rammed down you're throat all the time. They seem to be the entire point of the show at times (cf The Simpsons)
Anyway, I definately think there is a qualitative difference between the two. Modern shows seem to be all pop culture and making inside jokes that will make the guy who gets it feel pleased with himself for having got it. It just gets a bit tiresome, after a while.
George Meyer (Score:5)
The real reason for the success of the Simpsons is not Matt Groening, but a writer from the Lampoon, Harvard's in-house humor magazine. Sam Simon, a producer, liked George Meyer's Army Man enough that he tracked Meyer down and hired the whole staff onto the Simpsons.
The rest is history.
You can read a nice long story about it here:
http://www.snpp.com/other/inte rvi ews/meyer00.html [snpp.com]
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Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
Yeah, but:
Re:Anti-Gun=Anti-America (Score:2)
"This gun has cost me everything. Everything but my precious gun." -- Homer Simpson
A tip for Linux bashers and other Satanic cults (Score:1)
I'm not Christian but I think lines like this are part of what Christanity is all about..
the "Loving" and "Caring" god of Christianity is missing from todays dogma and thats really sad. A good philosophy lost to paranoia and hate.
Oh about the "Subject" of my reply.. Tit for tat.. I don't see why Microsoft begging Linux bashers can't be called Satanists after all the insults thrown at Linux advocates.
Yes it's a tool.. and carry a tool box full of Fisher Price tools and insult Craftsmen and see if you ever get taken sereously...
I don't think so.. (Score:3)
Oh, yeah, and I don't your Mecha Striesand can stand up to such an aural offense.
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Re:Worth voting for? (Score:1)
Gun Control = Ouch! My spleen! (Score:1)
I give a fukin' hell of a fuk, and yeah -- gun control works, as shown in Australia, among other countries. It works for the proliferation of armed crimes, since they are about 95% sure that their victim is unarmed.
I don't know what you think "pansies" are, exactly, but if you mean that those polititians won't say what they're thinking and they avoid the issues, swaggering up to other candidates in threatening postures, you're right.
MAN... is this thread getting off-topic, or what?
Screw the Quimbey corruption! Vote American [usiap.com]
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Simpsons Rant (Score:2)
Lately, the Simpsons has been declining in quality, there's no doubt about it. I feel the reason is rather than good content with story long shows, they're bringing in guest stars to fill the bill. Last season they had Limp Bizkit, Brittany Spears, Mel Gibson, John Goodman and others.
Don't get me wrong, making use of celeberity guests can enhance a show, but when you use them as the primary reason for viewers to tune in, overall show quality degrades.
Remember the classic episodes like Who Shot Mr. Burns Part I and II, Trash of the Titans, Mayored to the Mob, Flamin' Moe's, Dufflessness and $pringfield? Some of them (Trash of the Titans and Flamin' Moe's) had celebrity guests (Steve Martin and Aerosmith respecively), but the overall story and humor were out of this world. Trash of the Titans happens to be my personal favorite.
The other thing is that Matt Groening is now concentrating on Futurama, so he's not doing any of the writing for The Simpsons. Bring Matt back!
Well, that's enough for me. In summary we want content over guest stars!!
What do all of you folks think of the overall direction of The Simpsons (better or worse, and why)?
Timeline (Score:5)
and then...
1978 - Joe Quimby reluctantly graduates from college, after his father threatens to take away his girlfriend.
I guess that Joe Quimby Sr. was a very influential man.
Re:And for VP? (Score:1)
I say, Smithers for VP.
Bah!.. (Score:4)
That said, I'm voting for Kodos [cantech.net.au].
Quimby2000.com doesn't support Linux (Score:1)
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
I figured I'd pop in to say that I'd be willing to pay a reasonable fee for good quality, stereo VHS recordings of all/most of the episodes. Anybody feel like dubbing off their collection for some cash?
-The Reverend (I am not a Nazi nor a Troll)
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
1) Their references are necessary - if you don't get the reference, you don't get the joke
Not necessarily -- while the Simpsons' "Planet of the Apes" musical was obviously funnier if you'd actually seen the movie, it was pretty funny all on its lonesome as well.
2) The references of older shows are to a wider, or common pool of knowledge among everyone. If not, they are subtle, and not necessary
But this has been around forever... Monty Python made references to other BBC programs and British personalities an American audience -- or even a young British audience today -- would be perfectly unaware of. Not just subtle ones, either -- there are entire running gags or sketches that pretty much depend on the audience knowing about Britishisms like TV licence fees or early-70s-isms like hippie squatters. Likewise with old radio comedies -- these things are teeming with inside jokes that don't make sense if you're not aware of the styles and personalities of *other* radio shows -- especially stuff like Bob&Ray which was almost entirely parodies of standard radio fare like "Suspense" or "Johnny Dollar"...
3) Modern shows make references about other Modern shows and 'fads', which older shows just didn't
Check out war-era Warner Bros. cartoons -- or for that matter all those Tex Avery 'toons with zoot suits and swing music...
4)In modern shows these references are rammed down you're throat all the time. They seem to be the entire point of the show at times (cf The Simpsons)
That should be "your", not "you're".
I think rather, the point is that while in previous eras it could be safely assumed that everyone in your audience shared certain cultural touchstones -- everybody watched the same 3 channels, listened to Frank Sinatra or Bing Crosby, and knew who Mussolini was. But nowadays, the culture pool is astoundingly huge and diverse. There's very little stuff left that *everybody* can be assumed to catch, and what little there is has been comedically strip-mined to the point of exhaustion.
Of course, the Simpsons has always been about the mildly obscure pop culture reference -- certainly it's the first cartoon I can recall seeing references to "Patton" in, much less "The Omega Man". But I don't think it's solely about trying to flaunt the writers' erudition -- Groening referred to the references as "time bombs"... The younger members of the audience may not get the whole joke right away, but some day when they come across the source material, there'll be a flash of recognition and they'll say "Oh! So *that's* what that was all about. I wonder how much more of this kind of cool stuff is out there?"
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Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
You may not get the joke, but you can still get a joke. Part of the reason why The Simpsons is a classic is because the humour works on different levels (to put it mostly basicly, adult and juvenile - cf the old Warner Brothers cartoons, which also worked on multiple levels).
I have two younger brothers, aged 17 and 12, and they laugh their asses off at The Simpsons, just like me. But we laugh for somewhat different reasons. Whenever I try to explain a Simpsons joke which is a reference, they look at me like I'm an idiot. They don't get it, and it's not why they love the show. Similarly, my sister started watching Futurama, and loves it too, despite not getting any of the sci-fi jokes.
In an infinite universe, all things are possible.
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
That being said, I have enjoyed a COUPLE of new Simpsons... but I can't remember what they were about, so obviously they didn't make that big an impression on me...
"It's not just about freaks... it's about music... and advertising... and youth-oriented product positioning..."
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Re:Duke2000.com (Score:1)
Deo
Re:Simpsons Rant (Score:1)
I agree that the show has been declining in quality. But that's part of the natural cycle of any television show. Let it die, encourage others take it's place.
fwiw: futurama can be pretty damn funny.
quidquam
Re:Duke2000.com (Score:1)
Re:But he didn't thing of this!: (Score:1)
Things that make you go "Hmmmm" (Score:1)
Could it be that most of you|us still surf the web using Windows|Mac?
Has /. ever released server stats showing percentage of hits/page views by OS?
I actually knew a guy named... (Score:1)
VOTE QUIMBY! 'Der Quimbmeisterensheitzenhousen
--Cr@ckwhore
Re:I don't think so.. (Score:1)
Maybe he meant Canadian Tire money?
For non-Canadians, this is a company which uses an actual bank-note company to print store money. 3% return on anything you buy.
This must drive their accountants absolutely bat-shit crazy because every bill that they've printed must still be counted on the books. (In case every Canadian suddenly pulled out the $50+ of Canadian Tire money stashed away and bought a tire or an ice-scraper.)
And you can't get rid of the stuff, because you get 3% more of it even if you use their stuff.
Re:And for VP? (Score:1)
Re:Gun Control...Bah! (Score:2)
Joe Quimby is soft on crime! Just a few years ago, he let a madman like Sideshow Bob free! One more good reason to prevent that ever from happening again: vote Sideshow Bob for Mayor!
Duke2000.com (Score:4)