Second Generation Aibo Specs Officially Released 148
pastie writes "The second generation Sony Aibo now has a full and glorious specification at the Aibo homepage. "
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The new design looks too unfriendly.. (Score:1)
Compare the ERS-110's to the new ERS-210's and you'll see what I mean.
Re:Love it love it love it. (Score:2)
Re:The new design looks too unfriendly.. (Score:2)
No, realy baby, that's my name for it...yeah,.. that's it....
Real dog...? (Score:1)
An Aibo is for Christmas NOT for life!
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(for those outside UK, this is a play on the tagline from the xmas RSPCA campaign in the UK ;)
Comparisons (Score:3)
Re:Beware of Cheap Imitations (Score:1)
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PC card slot (Score:2)
"Oh dear, honey get the pooper-scooper the dog is crapping out his 56K modem again."
Re:All I can say is.... (Score:1)
Wraithmaster
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Re:I WOULD buy one... (Score:1)
Where is the MPEG of it walking around someones house?
Take a look at Ella the Cat's homepage [f9.co.uk]. OK, it's the original Aibo, but the movies are MPEG so you don't need a weird codec, and it is our house it's walking around.
If it was really for spying... (Score:1)
Care about freedom?
real emotions and instincts (Score:1)
There is nothing worse than a depressed dog.
Re:20 degrees of freedom (Score:1)
You could program to do sign language. Or just flip people off.
Re:The new design looks too unfriendly.. (Score:1)
Re:Hey it could be worse (Score:1)
Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:1)
something else overlooked (Score:1)
Tennesee leg hound (Score:2)
I'll be shure to keep my leg at a 10 degree angle or less......
Re:Aibo=Sony Spy Dog? (Score:1)
Even better than Furbies... I can see that the FBI will have to update their banned equipment list for Federal Buildings.
Now someone needs to strap a Furby onto an Aibo 2, and send them into an FBI office or SS post.
Of course, you'd have to plan on being talked to for a while... These people have no sense of humor...
Other things it can't do. (Score:2)
Shed.
Die.
Devour tons of expensive food.
Visit the vet.
Refuse to learn new tricks once it gets old.
Ooh, the pretty lights... (Score:1)
As a matter of fact, I think we should all have blinking lights on our asses!
girl: "Were you just staring at my butt?!"
guy: "Oh, uh... No... I was, uh... just distracted by the lights..."
Store Locator! (Score:2)
Model numbers even. Now we can expect "upgrades" with new version numbers and minor pointless configuration changes, just like stereos and TVs (and WinDoze :-). Dr. Doi (the head of the D-21 lab at Sony HQ) must be sitting pretty. Not quite Kutaragi (of Playstation fame) levels of prestige, but still doing quite well.
And they haven't even released the coolest stuff yet (and no, I can't talk about it - even though I don't work there any more, NDAs still apply).
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Re:Who's going to be the first...? (Score:2)
Re:Who's going to be the first...? (Score:1)
Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:2)
Re:Two reactions... (Score:4)
Second: I'll buy one when it's capable of being a guard dog, a la Snow Crash. I'd love to see the neighbors get mangled by my nuclear attack dog!
Well, if you look here, [aibo.com] you'll see that "AIBO learns from your praise or scolding. Praise it for playing with its ball, and it will enjoy playing with the ball more than ever. But if you scold AIBO when it is only looking at the ball, it will soon ignore the ball altogether."
So I suppose if you scold it when it's around you, it will ignore you, but if you praise it when it's around the neighbours, it will go after the neighbours.
Some computerized weaponry and a little bit of hacking later, you have a psychologically-warped little robot dog that's armed to the teeth.
Re:No not really (Score:1)
It is *not* something I would compare to an Aibo. (No joints in it's legs, no camera, no advanced behaviour AI etc.)
But hey, $30 is cheap, buy one to freak out the ducks in the park or something.
Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:1)
You mean you don't think this thing would attract geek members of the opposite sex? I do...
Re:Poor Aibo (Score:2)
Someone will probably install Linux on him and then hook him up to a sewing machine for slave labor.
Worse yet, some sadist will install Windows on him just to see him writhe in agony, and perish with a hideous blue scream of death.
Kismet (Score:1)
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Will it be house-broken? (Score:2)
Re:Love it love it love it. (Score:1)
A lot of the teams in robocups Aibo division have reprogramed the robots walks and vision processing systems to be more efficient. Here is a quote from the match report of the grand final from this years winners (UNSW United [unsw.edu.au]) - :
I think the previous couple of years the winners had been the ones who had done the best job of reprogramming the vision processing system.
All I can say is.... (Score:5)
I can't believe it! (Score:1)
Re:All I can say is.... (Score:1)
I'm sure they are going to release Mrs Aibo (or Aiby?). According to some company leaks, the PC card in Aiby will be almost in the same location, may be a little lower. The difference is that will accept double sized cards.
--ricardo
Quick Updates are Needed (Score:1)
Two reactions... (Score:2)
Goto the pound, and get a much better pet, for quite a bit less. They actually need homes.
Second:
I'll buy one when it's capable of being a guard dog, a la Snow Crash. I'd love to see the neighbors get mangled by my nuclear attack dog!
Interface/Expansion of Aibo (Score:1)
However, I am just a little surprised to see that they've also included a type 2 PC card slot, as the functionality of these two i/o options overlaps in many ways. Admittedly, there are PC card options uses that the memory stick hasn't been used for yet.
It's nice to see that Sony isn't so intent on pushing its own technology that it'll refuse to use more standard hardware as well. In their laptop computer offerings that kind of philosophy is a given, but the AIBO is a real example of what I am talking about.
-inco
Warranty (Score:3)
Sony: "Yes, this is Sony technical support. How can I help you?"
Me: "Well, I bought this robo-dog for a couple grand a few months ago and it was pretty slick."
Sony: "Was?"
Me: "Well, you see, Spot started following me around wanting to play ball."
Sony: "And?"
Me: "I was playing ball in the pool with my kids and Spot jumped off the diving board trying to fetch the ball. You know, metal sinks like a rock. Spot doesn't even sniff himself anymore. He just kind of sits there and twitches. Is that simulated hypothermia? Can I get him fixed or do I need to put him out of his misery?"
Sony: "Sorry, stupidity isn't listed on the warranty card."
Strange design... (Score:1)
The start of something new? (Score:2)
The first Aibo can be compared to the Commodore PET and Apple I. Almost zero expandibility and functionality, but a computer you could buy. The homebrew computer builders of course are equivalent to the homebrew robotics builders of today.
The second generation Aibo is more like the Apple II, TRS-80 & Commodore 64. More functionality and almost assured to get many people to start actively using and programming it.
The next generation will be more like the IBM PC. Something where you can actually consider changing not only hardware but also the OS (remember you could get CP/M as well as DOS). Don't forget respectability (GM? Ford? Sony? AOL?!)
Ultimately we will be able to roll our own hardware (choice of motherboards, processors, chassis, actuators, drive, etc) and OS/Apps (Embedded Linux, vision software, viris, etc.). As always their will be the user friendly robotics with their colourful transparent cases!
We may even have a Linus T. of the robot era in grade school right now.
When my front porch collapsed it killed all my (Score:1)
Looks hard to train. Probably can't teach it to hole a rabbit too easily.
Hmm... (Score:2)
Long live MIBO!!!
I support the EFF [eff.org] - do you?
Re:Poo-Chi (Score:1)
But you can also get beer, liquor, ramen noodles, Pocky, and pr0n from Japanese vending machines.
IMHO, Amerika really needs to import some of this amazing vending machine technology.
That and smartcards. We really need smartcards.
And just to stay slightly on topic, the Poo-Chi doesn't seem nearly as advanced as any Aibo,
not to mention you can't stick a PCMCIA card up it's arse.
--K
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This is no dog, this is a cat! (Score:2)
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accessories? (Score:1)
So do they have add-ons yet? You know, useful stuff, like drink-holders and remote-control finders?
What about screw-on spikes for the post-apocalyptic punk look? I don't want no sissy-ass Aibo, I want something that can beat the shit out of my neighbor's Aibo and the Palm robot [zdnet.com] across the street.
Re:Aibo=Sony Spy Dog? (Score:1)
Re:All I can say is.... (Score:1)
Re:What (Score:1)
Re:Hey it could be worse (Score:1)
Re:Hey it could be worse (Score:5)
"No, he's just uploading data."
"Don't tell me. He uses burst transfers, right?"
--K
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Oh great! (Score:3)
Aibo...not all it's cracked up to be. (Score:1)
Man, I wish I had an Aibo.
Re:The new design looks too unfriendly.. (Score:2)
So (Score:1)
Any fun
Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:5)
Actually, you can probably knead a pure bread dog (or cat, for that matter) with buying a couple loaves of bread from the nearest Safeway and softening it with water. You can leave it soft if you're a cat person with a longing for a warm, fuzzy cat, or bake it at 400F for that hard Doberman look.
A purebred dog can be more fun since it's actually alive, and it can lick you in the face, catch a frisbee and all.
Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:2)
Re:From the Aibo page: (Score:1)
I guess "AIBO is a friend for life." sounded better than "AIBO is a friend for exactly as long as he has to in order to not get returned, so after those 90 days, watch your ass and secure your valuables."
Re:What (Score:1)
Real Hamster [realhamster.com]
I beg to differ.... (Score:1)
Visit the "Sony" Metreon next time you're in downtown SF.
It's rathar sad actually, that even a company like Sony is forced to whore themselves out to gates like that. But then... given Sony's more recent actions, I've developed a distince lack of sympathy for Sony themselves.
john
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I WOULD buy one... (Score:2)
The only way sony offers to get detailed specs is to sign up. Is it me, or is this ridiculous? When was the last time you had to give your name address and phone number to a store before they let you shop there? Why would Sony be interesting in turning people away like this? It seems like they are hiding the real info because product isn't half as good as the specs.
What is the point of this infernal thing? (Score:1)
Just yesterday, I saw a Japanese game on the PlayStation demo machine. I called over my friend Josh, who has learned Japanese, and asked him if he could translate the title screen. He didn't remember the proper name, but he translated literally: "I am the chef." This game puts the player in the position of diner chef. You have to boil ramen and cut vegetables. You even have to pour the bee... ahem, sake the right way. Is it just me, or does this seem like Sony has developed a covert way of hypnotizing the American children into servitude? I'd be very paranoid if the "Chin'PokoMon" scenario became reality.
Re:Strange design... (Score:1)
I want one of these puppies! (Score:1)
Any chance of the first gen coming down in price, or will they simply not manufacturing any more?
This is not to say I have anything worthwhile to contribute to the discussion though.
Sorry.
:)
Re:Aibo=Sony Spy Dog? (Score:1)
$? (Score:1)
Refrag
Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:3)
I'd rather spend $2000 on a beowulf cluster of Lego Mindstorms sets and make a 1/2 scale Dalek(hey, they even have a camera for Lego now!) and be my own Davros.
Re:No Linux drivers! (Score:1)
Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:2)
It's a decent article. Check it out.
Why is an AIBO k3wl3r than a real dog?
It won't freak out my cats.
Re:Store Locator! (Score:1)
let it be known I'm running debian 2.2 and win98 so it's not a flame.. it's funny.
Re:Poo-Chi (Score:1)
Slashdot typos are contagious. (Score:1)
Ugh!
- A.P.
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AIBO knock-off (Score:1)
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CCD sensor is NOT a digital camera (Score:1)
...so here I go also.
The image sensor need not be very detailed in order for Aibo to appear visually responsive/intelligent. Only, a few tens (or at best, hundreds) of cells per dimension would be necessary to perceive obstacles, hand motion signals, or gross contrast changes for night/day detection, for example. I suspect one function might be too discern when Aibo has been covered (like in a blanket, box, or skirt (oops!)).
However, I think it would be exceedingly cool if a rudimentary sense of smell were incorporated in the nose. (see above "oops").
1.5 hours running time? (Score:1)
I prefer my pets to last a little longer...
"Excuse me, please, I have to go recharge my dog..."
Tsk, tsk Sony. (OT) (Score:2)
Here's a snippet of the javascript responsible for the mis-viewing:
var agt=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
var isWin = agt.indexOf('win') != -1;
var isMac = agt.indexOf('mac') != -1;
if (isWin) { }
else if (isMac) parent.location="macindex.html";
else parent.location="index_unsupported.html";
For even more entertainment value, check out what you see if you go to macindex.html [aibo.com]. ;)
Re:Hey it could be worse (Score:2)
Re:Poo-Chi (Score:2)
Re:And when you get angry at your AIBO... (Score:1)
sign me up!
Re:And when you get angry at your AIBO... (Score:1)
Judgement Day (Score:2)
March 13, 2001, 3:34am - The Sony Abio's become self-aware, humans try to pull the plug but it's too late, The Abio's strikes back.
FoonDog
Re:Aibo=Sony Spy Dog? (Score:5)
Yep, that sure is a great way to collect data on customers. Drive to their houses and control dogs and have them take pictures of toilets or wallpaper or people's feet. Every big company would kill to get this kind of great marketing information! And they get it so easily, too!
Bah.
Re:At last! Now pets can obsolete in a year as wel (Score:2)
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uhhh (Score:4)
i can just see it now.
Is your dogs batteries falling out ? or is he just happy to see me??
mobot platform (Score:2)
For someone with geeky leanings, building or buying a mobot platform would give you something that's just as good around the house, is a lot more robust, and allows lots of actually interesting things to be done with it.
Aibo=Sony Spy Dog? (Score:3)
Hey it could be worse (Score:2)
Considering the sense of humor of some engineers, thank heaven for small mercies.
Re:Aibo...not all it's cracked up to be. (Score:2)
If they can program a 'scare the shit out of it' mode, I'd buy one for him just so he could remember his little doggy.
Re:AIBO knock-off (Score:2)
epinions on poo-chi [epinions.com]
AIBO has gotten a much better response:
epinions on Aibo [epinions.com]
Hope that helps.
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Price? (Score:2)
What could be better than this? (Score:2)
At last! Now pets can obsolete in a year as well! (Score:2)
To me, the idea of a pet obsoleting at the same rate as my computer is frightening...
"Sorry, spot, we had some good times together but...well the new models are out now, and this year they're *translucent blue*. I just really can't be held back by old technology anymore. You understand, don't you, boy? Maybe Mom and Dad will find a home for you with some needy children who can't afford the latest model..."
Actually, having a robotic pet at all strikes me as a bit cold, so I guess this product isn't aimed at people like me. Live and learn.
--Lenny
Poor Aibo (Score:2)
Someone will probably install Linux on him and then hook him up to a sewing machine for slave labor.
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Poo-Chi (Score:3)
It's only a foot tall! (Score:2)
All you'd have to do is write your own little mailman identification script, and ta da! What a grand home movie that would make! You could even watch from the dog's point of view!
Re:Aibo...not all it's cracked up to be. (Score:2)
Fucking idiots around here are really starting to piss me off!
Hack it! (Score:4)
If you hack Aibo, you're just a hacker.
If you hack a real dog, you're a mad scientist and people call the ASPCA.
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Re:Sorry, don't understand why someone would but t (Score:3)
Love it love it love it. (Score:2)
Sorry, don't understand why someone would but this (Score:2)
The thing costs around $2000. A real pure bread dog or cat costs only a few hundred. Can this thing:
For me, the technology is too limited to warrant a $2K price tag.
Too gimmicky... (Score:2)
I suppose I should reserve judgement until I actually see one, but I think they're going to ruin AIBO by making it too gimmicky.
I've had a dog and he didn't need any coloured LEDs to let me know when he was happy, sad, or upset. An AIBO that looks sad by skulking around and not wagging it's tail is likely to get my sympathy, but an AIBO that flashes red lights at me would just be annoying. I wouldn't like a person who shouted "I'm happy now!" or "I'm sad now!" constantly, a robot that was that blatent would have me reaching for the power button ASAP.
Rather than add silly/gimicky features I'd rather they concentrated on things that would make AIBO more useful. Maybe a "call the police" or "call an ambulance" feature. A built-in GPS would be cool too: "AIBO, take me to the nearest pub."