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Comment Re:Science! (Score 1) 737

Anna. Yes, there is a difference. Scientists (alone or in groups) publishing science that conflicts with mainstream is encouraged. But that's not the case here. This is about very large corporations (oil, gas, and coal) being accused of deliberately misleading the public for their own gain. That is, these companies are very well aware of the actual science, which poses a threat to their business. So they fund campaigns to cast doubt on solid scientific evidence.

This has happened before, repeatedly. Most notably with cigarettes, where the companies' own internal documents, from their own scientists proved cigarettes caused cancer in the 50's. Yet, for over 30 years they publicly denied any health issues and actively spread doubt on the growing evidence against cigarettes. "Merchants of Doubt" is an outstanding account of the history and methods industry has used and is using today to spread doubt on otherwise sound science.

I don't know that I'm for RICO. I am attempting to thwart attempts to misrepresent the argument, as was the case here.

Comment Re:Climate Change Deniers aren't stupid... (Score 1) 737

So we know we're changing the climate, but don't know how it's going to work out. Might be bad. Possibly not. Conclusion ... continue on with the experiment.

Found some tasty berries in the woods and started eating them. Might be good for me. Might kill me. Could possibly make me immune to snake bites. Tastes good - I'll keep eating them.

Comment Re:Science! (Score 1) 737

What's up with the mods? How is this obviously weak argument a 5? The data was solid for cigarettes and it is solid (and has been) for AGW.

This isn't about censorship. It's about massive and deliberate deception that causes harm. Cigarettes killed people for 40+ years AFTER the evidence was clear. Clear data showing cigarettes caused disease and death wasn't enough because the cigarette companies launched a massive campaign to cast doubt among people. The same thing is happening now, scarily often from the same groups and people (Heritage Foundation, Fred Singer). "Merchants of Doubt" contains impressive research on the subject, for those who want details.

Comment Re:Whoa! Consider the Law (Score 1) 737

Do know a single person who wants to "slam the brakes on business"? A global conspiracy among client scientists to slow down the economy - how does anybody take that seriously? The same people who say the government is hopelessly inefficient and incompetent claim the same government has coordinated a global effort to deceive the public, recruiting the entire population of publishing climate scientists for 20+ years. To what end? "to slam the brakes on business". (Brain explodes)

Or maybe it's this simple. Those that stand to lose money (coal, oil, and gas) launch a campaign to cast doubt on the science that would hurt their core business.

This has happened before with cigarettes. History is a great teacher.

And before you throw labels at me, I value liberty above "safety". I voted for Ron Paul and Gary Johnson in the previous two elections. Ultimately I look for the truth, and it is as clear as clear gets for AGW.

Comment Re:As a Canadian (Score 1) 311

He chose to say he don't see the cost, not the more common (and perfectly easy to understand, yet constantly people choose to not) wording of "it's free", probably because he knew people would choose to think that the writer doesn't understand his paying for it through taxes. He knows there is a cost, and so does everyone using the words "free healthcare" - everyone knows what it means so please people stop knowingly choosing to misunderstand it every chance you get, pretty please.

Comment Re:So this kills AdBlock and NoScript, right? (Score 1) 152

Firefox is the slowest, least memory efficient browser out there. It regularly breaks several GB of memory after only a day's use. In fact, Firefox is already up to nearly 3GB of memory use, which is somewhat worrying for a 32-bit process. Looks like I'm going to have to quit and restart after this comment.

I've actually never witnessed this, but I hear it so often I'm beginning to believe the issue exists - but perhaps only for the Windows version. The few times I've had to use windows in the past few years has given me the experience that all browsers tend to be rather sluggish on it... oh well, that's what you get for using subOS. Oh, and I keep Firefox running for days, even weeks, and have generally around 100 tabs open at any time. There was a time when my average was closer to or even over 200 tabs, and back then I had only 512MB's of RAM - yet I have no idea what this memory use issue so many talk about is.

Theory is gray, but the golden tree of life is green. -- Goethe