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Comment: Re: Pairing? (Score 1) 235

by macs4all (#47482133) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

This old-time Mac user who was forced to do tech support for Microsoft Word 6.0 for Mac (blech!) in college doesn't know whether to laugh or cry over your innocence. Don't worry, kid, you'll have your own set of trauma to deal with as you grow older. More recently, though, you may remember that Microsoft conveniently forgot to implement VBA in Office 2008 for Mac, rendering it nearly useless for enterprise applications. So much for "on-parity."

I wondered of someone would remember Word 6.0... ;-).

That was actually MS' only attempt to actually "Port" MS Word from Windows to Mac. And yes, it sucked. Badly. That is why, At all other times before or since, all the Office Apps are actually a completely separate codebase from the Windows versions. This is why there are minor differences, such as the lack of forcing ONLY the "Ribbon" UI (which is a Good Thing, IMO), and the VBA debacle you speak of.

. Speaking of VBA, do you know that what became "Visual BASIC" actually started out FIRST as "Microsoft BASIC for Macintosh". Then one day, rather than make the changes necessary to make it work under System 7, MS abruptly killed it off.

. Then about a year later, "Visual BASIC" for Windows appeared, looking almost EXACTLY like their Mac BASIC. Bit sadly, they never brought it back to the Mac. And because of this, Mac Office has had a sordid history when it comes to VBA support., you are correct.

. However, for the 99.5% of MS office users who never touch VBA, it matters not a whit. And for those who do need Macro capability, the Mac Business Unit has tried to provide same, even going so far as licensing and embedding a version of third-party "Real BASIC" at one point.

. And BTW, I am 58 years old.

Comment: Re:Pairing? (Score 1) 235

by macs4all (#47478157) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

No memory protection. No virtual memory. The switcher. Sad Mac Icon. Things were not perfect.

No memory Protection: Neither did Windows.

No virtual memory. Actually, starting with System 7.0, which was released in May, 1991, MacOS had a virtual memory system. And unlike Windows' version, the Mac version almost never made you feel like you were trapped in Swap-File Hell....

The Switcher: The Switcher was really only released as a "toy", and was fairly irrelevant after about 1987, when Macs could have more than 256K (yes, that's KILObytes) of RAM, and since System 7 supported Virtual Memory, it was REALLY irrelevant then. Heck, I wrote a floppy-based "Switcher" for my Apple ][. Took about 4 seconds to swap-out 48K of RAM (pretty much every single byte of it!). Was cool to be able to run Magic Window (for documentation) and your Software Development "IDE" (in my case, usually my specially-modified version of the TED][ Editor/Assembler) and be able to flip back and forth.

As far as "stability" goes, I never had that much problem with MacOS, as long as I stayed out of Aldus Freehand or Photoshop. Those apps were pretty much guaranteed to elicit at least one "bomb" per hour... ;-) Windows, on the other hand...

The tradeoff is that is it a government and corporate portal into your home and life.

Citation, please.

Comment: Re:From what I've read: (Score 0) 235

by macs4all (#47477035) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

along with peripherals for their 'proprietary' (Nu)bus)

NuBus was not a "proprietary" Apple bus.

NuBus was supposed to be "the next big thing", and was actually created by MIT, and was used by Apple and Texas Instruments, among a few others.

According to this article, it is still being used in some high-end embedded applications.

It just lost out to PCI bus, mostly because of connector-cost and cost of the host interface.

Comment: Re:PPC macs were awful (Score 1) 235

by macs4all (#47476915) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

In the meantime, USB was everywhere on PCs. It just wasn't forced down everyone's throats.

USB CONNECTORS were everywhere on PC MOTHERBOARDS and even though the Windows OS theoretically had USB support since Windows 95 R2 ("OSR2") Service Release 2.1 came out in 8/96, virtually NOTHING was available to use it, and when someone named Bill Gates stood up at COMDEX in 1998 and tried to actually USE the USB support in Windows 98... well, we all know how THAT turned out...

While it is true that Apple didn't "invent" USB (that prize goes mostly to Intel, which is why the CONNECTORS appeared on Wintel mobos for nearly FOUR years before Windows users could actually do anything with them), but the instantaneous and huge popularity of the iMac certainly catapulted USB into the mainstream in a helluva hurry!

Comment: Re:PPC macs were awful (Score 0) 235

by macs4all (#47476731) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

When Macs didnt just needed a restart every 24 hours (like windows did) but would outright ruin there system install every other week?

You MUST be confusing MacOS and Windows.

I have been using Macs since they were called Lisas (yeah, yeah, I know. Different OS (sort of)), and using Windows since at least version 3.1, and in all those years, I have only had to resort to an OS Reinstall ONCE on a Mac (68k or PPC). I cannot even begin to count the times I had to do a reinstall on Windows. That stuff didn't even BEGIN to abate until Windows 2000.

As far as having to restart, both OSes had their fair share of memory leaks. But when it comes to "outright ruin there[sic] system install[ation]", there is simply no comparison.

Comment: Re:Intel (Score 1) 235

by macs4all (#47476569) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

I was always surprised that software emulation of x86 was not significantly attempted on the other RISC platforms given the success shown by Apple.

Actually, I believe that was thanks to Apple's bitchin' JiT Cross-Compiler, not actual "emulation".

If you want to see i86 Emulation on the PPC, look at something like Connectix' VirtualPC (part of which lives on in Windows as Hyper-V).

Let me tell you, the performance was not wonderful in that product...

Comment: Re:Pairing? (Score 0) 235

by macs4all (#47476317) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

Also, MacOS was horrible in 1991.

Horrible in what way?

Windows didn't even have a Hierarchical filing structure at the GUI level until W 95.

And let's talk about FAT vs. HFS...

Plus, no Multi-Monitor support, Y2K issues, peripheral driver nightmares, severe memory limitations, complicated application installs... the list goes on and on...

MacOS definitely had its flaws, but as user of both since version 1.0 of both, I will take a Macintosh CS (current in 1991) running MacOS 6.8 or 7.0 ANYTIME over a Windows 3.11 386 machine.

I know my Username will get me unnecessarily bashed and down-modded for this; but can anyone disagree on a FACTUAL basis?

Comment: Re:Pairing? (Score 1) 235

by macs4all (#47476153) Attached to: Nearly 25 Years Ago, IBM Helped Save Macintosh

Too bad the PowerPC machines *couldn't run the damn games* or the requisite MS Office suites for students and business people to use them.

Your comment about "games" was a matter of most developers not caring enough to write for a platform with only about 2% marketshare (one of the reasons there aren't more Linux games right now).

However, your comment regarding MS Office is completely off-base.

Other than Access (which MS refused to port to MacOS) and (much more importantly!) MS Outlook and Exchange Server (which MS refused to port to MacOS), Macs have always been "on-Parity" (or even ahead-of) Windows systems as regards to MS Office capability.

You do know that both MS Word and MS Excel were Mac-ONLY at first (MS Word existed, but didn't have a GUI for at least 2 years after it was available on MacOS). I don't know about PowerPoint, but that might have been Mac-Only too for awhile.

Comment: Re:I guess they won't need any more foreign Visas? (Score 1) 381

by macs4all (#47475999) Attached to: Microsoft CEO To Slash 18,000 Jobs, 12,500 From Nokia To Go

"In order to ensure continued access to scarce skillsets that are key to our ability to innovate, we need to be able to draw flexibly from a global pool of professionals."

Wait a minute. Microsoft has the ability to innovate? Who knew!

Wait a minute. Microsoft has the ability to innovate? Who knew!

Are you kidding? All Microsoft DOES is "innovate".

What they NEVER seem to do (or only rarely), is stick to a particular technology long enough to actually get it working, before abandoning it for the next generation of buzzwords and alphabet soup that never quite work, before it's time for "Rinse and Repeat"...

Comment: Re:Perhaps stupid question (Score 1) 310

Please educate.

They were under ATC. ATC can track objects in the air, even if they're not using a transponder. Using primary radar, ATC will be able to provide traffic advisories. Police helicopters usually fly under "flight following", meaning they would like to be informed of other traffic.

Oh, noes! You KNOW that isn't true!

Don'tcha remember?!? On 9/11/01., all the "Hijacked" Airliners simply DISAPPEARED from RADAR because they switched their Transponders off... (Rolls eyes) [/sarcasm]

Comment: Re: It was never about Jobs, but rather his adhere (Score 1) 209

by macs4all (#47252833) Attached to: How Tim Cook Is Filling Steve Jobs's Shoes

No, those kids grew up to be responsible adults with good paying jobs while you grew up to sit around in a Starbucks all day, mooching off of their free wifi and refills trying to show everyone how much of an arteest you think you are.

You are like one of those guys with bad priorities who spends hundreds of dollars on a pair of shoes because you think it will make you a sports star.


I've only been in a Starbucks once in my life, and that was because someone I was with wanted to stop there.

And as for shoes, the most expensive pair of shoes I have ever bought was about $135. And I have never paid ov $20 for a pair of "sports" shoes. Doesn't make sense for me. I run the heels over too fast to make that make economic sense.

I have, however, been employed pretty steadily for the past forty years as an embedded engineer and applications developer.

So, what was that, again?

Comment: Re:It was never about Jobs, but rather his adheren (Score 1) 209

by macs4all (#47247207) Attached to: How Tim Cook Is Filling Steve Jobs's Shoes

No longer is Little Johnny just the nancy nerd artist that the varsity football players make fun of. Now he thinks he's Big Johnny, a Ruby on Rails ninja and web designer guru, all thanks to his MacBook Pro.

And all the snot-nosed, socially retarded, little script kiddies huddled in their Mom's basements pawing their greasy fingers over their creaky little POS plastic shitbox computers somehow don't think they are the "World's Greatest Hax0rs(tm)"?


An Ada exception is when a routine gets in trouble and says 'Beam me up, Scotty'.