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Comment: Re:Why not find out how to keep female engineers? (Score 2) 634

by kria (#49569419) Attached to: How To Increase the Number of Female Engineers

I'm a female engineer. I've worked at my place of business for fifteen years. I plan on staying in programming. I have an eight month old daughter and a stay at home father husband.

Most of what you just listed, I would be lousy at. I'm an INTJ and lack the patience with idiots to be a teacher, nor do I have the calling to work the long hours required of many of those professions. (I should note that I'm lucky to be at a company that doesn't have mandatory unpaid overtime, like far too many software places.)

I am lucky in that I had supportive parents and teachers who didn't put up roadblocks to my doing what I wanted to do when I was growing up, indeed, they encouraged me. I went to an all engineering college that was accepting female students for the first time and I'm happy to say that the most sexist attitude I encountered amongst the faculty was from my psych prof (there's got to be a joke in that statement).

I think out of the female friends from college I'm still in touch with (say, 20 people at the periphery as facebook friends), there are only 2-3 who have stopped being engineers.

Comment: Re:Hostile environments (Score 1) 634

by kria (#49569351) Attached to: How To Increase the Number of Female Engineers

I'm not going to disagree, but I think that it _is_ true that the hostile environments can extend back far enough to initially dissuade people from going into certain fields. I had a friend who managed to go to college over the objections of her own father that she would get married and waste all that education (by, in his world, presumably becoming a stay at home mom).

It would be a wondrous world where everyone could support themselves doing something that love, on a very slight tangent.

Comment: Hostile environments (Score 4, Insightful) 634

by kria (#49568575) Attached to: How To Increase the Number of Female Engineers

I am, gasp, a female software engineer. I work at a defense contractor, and I'm thankful to say that every year there are fewer fossils who think that women don't belong in software, let alone working on military software. The hostile environment is sometimes present in subtle ways, such as important discussions that occur spontaneously in the men's restroom or cubicle artwork that borders on inappropriate. Or, of course, trying to get projects assigned to other, male, engineers. Heck, I once heard a co-worker complain that he would have gotten his promotion if he's been a woman, with an obvious implication since I had gotten mine - ignoring that I've worked here three years longer, am considered more helpful and, oh yeah, _trained him_ when he got here. Nope, obviously, it's because I'm a woman.

Anyway, Slashdot is a perfect example of said hostile environment, from the subtle ("You're joking, there aren't any women on the internet!") to the cesspit that the discussion turns into whenever the topic comes up. I'm sick of it, frankly, and I really should just stop bothering to read the comments on most stories, causing me to lose out on the occasional insightful nugget, but helping my blood pressure. Someday, it might even be bad enough to drive me away.

Which was my point. Telling someone that they are imagining there is a problem is highly offensive, really, and tends to make people not want to be around you.

Comment: Re:Pointing fingers at problems (Score 1) 493

by kria (#49025857) Attached to: Will Elementary School Teachers Take the Rap For Tech's Diversity Problem?

(Perhaps things are more skewed in Indiana. It's a surprisingly conservative place.)

And it's very, very difficult to find the line between evolutionary programming and societal conditioning. I'm a female computer programmer at a defense contractor, while my husband has a degree in art and is currently staying home with our five month old baby. Not only is this the best financial situation, but I think that we both are far happier than if we went the opposite routes.

I think that most normal feminists, rather than misandrists on the fringe, just want artificial barriers for everyone in all professions to be removed. We've come very far in a relatively short time, and things will continue to improve. My mother received an education fit for becoming a secretary (and became a waitress), I had friends who were discouraged by teachers and even parents from technical fields, but I didn't experience that myself. Things will continue to be more open for my daughter, I hope.

Comment: Re:Why is it even a problem? (Score 1) 493

by kria (#49025811) Attached to: Will Elementary School Teachers Take the Rap For Tech's Diversity Problem?

I'm a feminist, but not a misandrist. I'm also an engineer, and I want to find the cause of things and fix it. Men have been the ones in a position of leadership for most of human history, nothing more. Women have, sadly, been fairly bad in many points in history at taking and making opportunities for themselves, since society has conditioned both genders in how they should behave.

I believe they didn't grade the test twice because this was an examination of available data rather than a created situation - they were two different tests that were typically graded in these different ways.

Comment: Re:Why is it even a problem? (Score 1) 493

by kria (#49019047) Attached to: Will Elementary School Teachers Take the Rap For Tech's Diversity Problem?

You say that like it's impossible for a female teacher to have biases about what the genders are good at. Reverse it, if you'd like - how many boys with an interest in something typically female may be dissuaded by their own fathers? Personally, I feel lucky in that I had teachers throughout my school career that were encouraging me, telling me that I could do whatever I wanted, in contrast to other women I've met who were discouraged by everyone from their math and science teachers to their own parents.

Comment: Re:shame (Score 1) 242

by kria (#48970937) Attached to: RadioShack Near Deal To Sell Half of Its Stores, Close the Rest

I remember mistakenly thinking that Radio Shack was the place to go look for an odd conversion cable (I think it was for a laptop to a tv that didn't have the most expected combination of ports) and the person behind the counter looking at me like I was speaking Greek. I wonder if anyone still makes the cool little electronics experiment kits?

Comment: Theory (Score 4, Interesting) 219

by kria (#48849611) Attached to: Why Some Teams Are Smarter Than Others

There are studies that show that women are less likely to speak up when outnumbered by men. So if the most successful teams were ones where everyone contributed equally, it seems like those groups would tend to either have more women so that women are more willing to speak up, or no women at all (assuming that men are all likely to contribute in that environment).

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/2...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01...

Comment: Re:Other factors can ease parenting "instinct" in (Score 1) 291

by kria (#47106937) Attached to: Parenting Rewires the Male Brain

Look, look, another woman here! :) Anyway, I was considering joking that as an expecting geek mom, that if men's brains get rewired, then perhaps there's a chance that I'll become more maternal. I worry about it.

The rest of your commentary makes sense to me. So far, I haven't been getting much advice that is critical of our plans, except from one person: my very traditional mother, who is probably secretly horrified that my husband is going to stay at home. She's already claimed that my longterm breastfeeding plans will never work out (no, not _that_ longterm, I just mean that I'm not doing formula if I don't have to), that trying to use cloth diapers is silly and my plans to downsize to reduce debt so that we can afford for my husband to not work mean I'll "never live in a house that big again".

Okay, I've gotten it off my chest now.

Comment: Re:Mirror image (Score 1) 642

by kria (#46712827) Attached to: Scientists/Actress Say They Were 'Tricked' Into Geocentric Universe Movie

re: average age of marriage

BS.

The average age of marriage for women during much of the middle ages was in the early twenties, and older for men. That's for the average person, not some member of the royalty that had an alliance marriage made for him/her when they were children, usually by proxy and certainly not consummated until they were of age. The reason for the commoners needing to wait: they needing to actually learn how to do a job, even if that was farming. Mommy and Daddy peasant weren't going to be able to set them up, so they needed to actually have earned some money to have an independent life.

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