The primary use case for AI is to eliminate White collar jobs. Let China have it. It'll be a few more years before America's economy collapses and it's only going to benefit America if China's economy collapses first.

It's going to be fun to see communist China with 20 or 30% unemployment. I mean I know they will just kill anyone that steps out of line, and I'm not so naive to believe that America won't be doing the same and 10 or 15 years, but it'll be fun to see the contradiction all the same.

Rand Paul was selected among three other right wing Republican voting senators to vote against the bill because they are the most vulnerable. He did not take a principled stand it was a cynical strategy and trick..

I'm not sure I'm explaining this simply and clearly enough for you to grasp.

The Republicans all get together in a room and figure out which of them can safely vote against the bill and which of them can safely vote for the bill. They don't want to lose elections because they have not fully consolidated their power and we are still nominally a democracy. Propaganda and voter suppression are powerful but they can only do so much

So the guy who is running the Senate right now figures out from polling data which Republicans are the most vulnerable to losing their elections and tells them hey you, you over there, you go vote against this unpopular bill so that when you campaign you can tell your voters you try to save them.

Every single one of them is lying including and especially Rand Paul. But libertarians love him because he says the things libertarians want to hear while he always does the things they don't want done.

Pay attention to how he votes when the margins are closer and you will find it's 110% Republican platform / project 2025. He is a heritage foundation's bitch. They all are.

Frankly so are you. At the end of the day you do basically whatever the heritage foundation wants you to. Different reasons but the result is the same.

Of cops showing off their hauls was when they busted a shoplifting ring focused on a drug store and it was something like $5,000 worth of merchandise and it was a couple of tables worth because it was a bunch of machines used to treat diabetes and those are ludicrously expensive.

It's another one of those pictures that wouldn't exist in any other civilized country. Then again we shouldn't be criminalizing drugs in the first place. Only reason we did it was so that Richard Nixon could attack his political enemies on the left.

Yeah. Even here in Iceland, which isn't exactly a solar paradise, these would be really useful in some places. Though realistically your best option would be a mix of solar and wind.

I think we're forgetting the other two possibilities in this grid: "solar mine" and "strip farm".

The... trees?

If you're annoyed by jet skis, I would strongly recommend not living on the shores of Lake Havasu. Also, yes, it does take way more energy to get there than it does to jet ski around while you're there. Also, there are electric jet skis.

That's not going to be a matter of competition when you can just type into a prompt and get a fully functional application there's no competition there. That's not a job so you can't compete for it.

what we need to be doing is transitioning from a competitive society to a cooperative one but screw that. Too much pride and too much lizard brain. Also too much moral panic

in modern history

Do you drive long distances without stopping to get food and drinks?

If so: please stop that.

My language does reflect the new reality. By your own admission EVs are a minority.

Would you say that white people should be called "normal people" in front of a bunch of black people in the US, because the black people are a minority?

You talk about EVs like they're some obscure just-invented thing. They're not esoteric.

We're not talking weight, we're talking wind resistance.

You very much are talking both. For an extreme case, with freight trucks, aero is only like 1/3rd to 1/2 of aero losses. And they have aerodynamically awful shapes and are on very low rolling resistance tyres (though also have very heavy cargos... but also very large frontal areas).

For a passenger vehicle / truck towing a trailer, it will really depend a lot on the vehicle and trailer. It's not even some simple additive process, the aerodynamics is complex; it's actually possible to even lower Cd by towing a trailer in some cases (though not usually). And if by definition of the topic at hand (discussion was of a "big" trailer), then you're talking something like similar to the vehicle's mass (F-150 can tow up to 3 times its mass). Which - if on the same tyres - then doubling your mass equals doubling the rolling resistance. The ratio between rolling and aero resistance at highway speeds varies on speed, vehicle, tyres, weather, etc, but saying 60:40 aero:rolling is probably reasonable at normal "towing" speeds (somewhat lower than drivers without trailers) and averaging across weather conditions. Doubling the rolling drag increases the total drag by 40%. If your cross-section stays the same (again, this depends on the vehicle and the trailer), the Cd would need to rise by 67% to keep the ratio between rolling and aero the same. Which is a really big Cd rise. Now, if you're starting with a very aero vehicle and have a very unaero trailer, sure, you might pull that off and then some (but remember that it's not additive, the airflow is complex). Or if it's a low car and a high trailer, again, same story. But to treat rolling as negligible is just not right. Trailers add a lot of rolling drag, amounts that very much are relevant.

I don't know normally talk about it because nobody here wants to hear it but just this ones I'll tell you guys what you need to be doing.

First we need strong unions for higher wages for the remaining jobs so that those people can drive a service sector economy with their purchases.

Next we need ludicrously high taxes on the rich in order to control their power and to get the resources we need.

Then we need enormous government programs. Trillions and trillions of dollars of government infrastructure spending. Trillions more social programs. We also need single-payer healthcare and huge investment in education with literally everyone spending half their life in college and education. That keeps them out of the workforce which is going to be shrinking and shrinking and shrinking.

All this just buys us time. I've mentioned it on other comments but the problem we have is we are running out of work to do but we're still going to have some work that has to be done, typically unpleasant backbreaking work that pays very poorly with it requires a large number of well to do white collar workers to fund via service sector jobs

The idea is to do all this to by time while we get used to a completely different society.

Without all this the economy collapses you have literally billions unemployable, not unemployed unemployable, and eventually you've got massive wars and people firing nukes off.

This was actually the plan Joe Biden and Kamala Harris had in store if you were paying attention...

And we aren't going to do any of this. Because as soon as any of this money starts getting spent it's going to trigger the lizard brain of all the people reading this because some of you are still going to be working while other people are not because they are completely useless and you're going to want those useless people to suffer because you're suffering at your miserable job.

So you will not allow any of this and we're not going to get the time we need to transition and we're going to do those wars instead.

I don't think our species is going to survive any of this.

Hackathons do bits and pieces of cool stuff.

Typically they do the hard stuff.

So yeah there is still going to be somebody to go look over the code and make sure it's functional and secure. But that person is going to be doing a hell of a lot less work.

I think it's safe to say about half of White collar workers are going to be permanently unemployed within the next 5 years. If not sooner.

That's going to hit blue collar workers like a truck. Because white collar workers higher blue color workers to do a lot of stuff. So no we can't all just go be plumbers and HVAC welders

this is a fundamental shift in how human beings do work. And none of us is emotionally ready for it. We are still a, if you don't work you don't eat, society.

What's worse is we're still going to need a lot of people doing work. What this does isn't eliminate work it eliminates the work that a lot of people are capable of doing.

In other words you are going to have tens of millions of people who society has absolutely no use for.

Right now economists are saying we're all going to get low paying service sector jobs. But who the hell is going to hire those people?

It's like that joke about Uber drivers hiring Uber drivers.

So you're going to have a shitload of people who have to work and a shitload of people who can't work. That's a recipe for social unrest and violence.

Traditionally when our species has too many people and two little for them to do we start big wars and kill each other until we get the population down to something manageable. That's not overpopulation mind you, it's not that there isn't enough food there isn't enough jobs.

Of course this time we've got nukes.

It's like visual coding or RAD all over again. Whenever suits and PHBs are told there's a magic wand that'll allow them to do without paying people for the nitty-gritty bits, they get all excited and convince each other in their echo chamber that their dream of a company of all managers and no workers is just around the corner.

Then reality says "hi", the hype dies down, a few scam artists got rich and the world continues as it was, with a couple new cool tools in the toolbox of those who know how to use them correctly - which is generally the same people that were supposedly being replaced.

That's how I see AI. I've been writing software for the better part of 40 years. What I see from AI is sometimes astonishing and sometimes pathetic. I would never, ever, ever put AI generated code into production software without carefull checking and refactoring, and I would fire anyone who does.

Code completion is mostly in the "astonishing" part. If I write a couple lines of near-identical stuff, like assigning values from an input to a structured format for processing, the AI most of the time gets right the next line I want to write. Anything more complex than that is hit-and-miss.

Mostly, I use AI the way I would use an intern. "Can you look up how to use this function correctly? What are the parameters and their defaults?" or "Write me some code that's tedious to write (like lots of transformation operations) but not rocket science by far.
Essentially, it does faster and a little bit better what previously I'd have done with Google and Stackoverflow.

I have no fear it'll replace developers anytime soon. Half of the time the code is outright wrong, most of the time it has glaring security issues or isn't half as fault-tolerant as it should be, and for any case where I know how to do it without any research, I'd be faster writing the code myself then going through several iterations with an AI to get it done.