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Comment: Re:Err... (Score 2) 246

by phantomfive (#47960757) Attached to: Fork of Systemd Leads To Lightweight Uselessd
I mean, just to go a little deeper, look at this example:

Myth: systemd is complex......rebuttal: systemd is certainly not more complex than prior implementations of the same components".

Do you see how that's not actually a rebuttal? All he's said is, "it's not complex." But the criticisms are that it is more complex. He hasn't said anything to address the criticisms, except that he disagrees with them!

Does it really surprise you that he disagrees? I hope not.

Comment: Re:Alright smart guy (Score 1, Insightful) 217

by amiga3D (#47960525) Attached to: Ask Slashdot: Is iOS 8 a Pig?

I've got a Samsung S2 Skyrocket and my wife has a Samsung Note 3. My Skyrocket hasn't had an upgrade available since just after I bought it over 2 and a half years ago. The Note 3 upgraded just after I bought it but it's only 3 months old. I've seen my friend update his iPhone 3 times now and he just put iOS 8 on it. He says it didn't seem to slow it down any and he's waiting on the next iPhone to upgrade so he must be okay with it. I don't have phone religion but I wont buy a phone without an SD slot so that leaves Apple out.

Comment: Re:Err... (Score 1) 246

by phantomfive (#47960193) Attached to: Fork of Systemd Leads To Lightweight Uselessd

Unless someone is going to dispute his responses to the myths with good arguments and real life repeatable cases then his blog response is more valid than a bunch of whiners repeating shit without checking it out.

That's not a very good argument, I might as well say, "unless he's going to write code that's not crap, he's just a whiner." Woohoo, a point that makes no sense.

For specific, easy to see problems with the blog post, start by noticing that he actually agrees with many of the points that he calls myths. You don't even need to dig deep! The following are quotes from the actual post:

Myth: systemd is difficult.
This also is entire non-sense.......systemd certainly comes with a learning curve.

Myth: systemd is a freedesktop.org project.
yes, we host our stuff at [freedesktop.org]

Myth: systemd is not UNIX.
There's certainly some truth in that.

Myth: systemd is complex.
There's certainly some truth in that.

Myth: systemd is a feature creep.
Well, systemd certainly covers more ground that it used to......

Comment: Re:kill -1 (Score 2) 246

by squiggleslash (#47960039) Attached to: Fork of Systemd Leads To Lightweight Uselessd

Must admit that's news to me. Kinda fed up of the subtle changes to shell commands we've seen over the last few years especially as this one conflicts with the kill -{SIGNAL} syntax we're used to.

Either way, this sounds like a non-issue. (1) if we're routinely trying to determine how to kill EVERY CORE PROCESS ON THE SYSTEM then we have bigger fish to fry than whether init/systemd is capable of working with that.

(2) It sound scriptable to me, assuming systemd itself isn't capable of doing it. /proc should give you all the information you need.

I worry that this is the kind of concern holding back adoption of systemd. Good reasons I understand. Bad ones, that seek to blame systemd for major system problems that exist under init too, are bad.

Comment: Re:Not a boycott but a confirmation (Score 1) 246

by phantomfive (#47960033) Attached to: Fork of Systemd Leads To Lightweight Uselessd

I'm not a lawyer either, but this is obviously unexplored territory for the GPL

The main thing it needs to fall under GPL is to be a derivative work. That's a legal term, and as you mention, a grey area.

But merely using RPCs instead of linking isn't enough to keep it from being a derivative work: I'm sure you can think of ways a product could still be a derivative work.

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