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Comment: Re:edu-babble (Score 1) 275

by khallow (#49560533) Attached to: The Future Deconstruction of the K-12 Teacher

The true power of the public education system is that it gives teachers a great deal of independence in what they say in the classroom.

Unless it doesn't, of course. Let us keep in mind this 1984 experience would still be a public education system. There's already some crazy stuff in public school systems like zero tolerance policies and ideological contamination by political correctness that inhibits a teacher's independence.

Comment: Re:sage (Score 1) 275

by khallow (#49560365) Attached to: The Future Deconstruction of the K-12 Teacher

And the data said that charter schools were failing and the testing was unscientific gobbledygook.

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For example, she knows about the NAEP http://nces.ed.gov/nationsrepo... which actually did a good, scientific study of charter schools and found that they were on average worse than public schools.

No they didn't. On average, they found they were about the same. In some states, charter schools did consistently perform worse than public schools, but in some states, charter schools consistently performed better. Not an argument for charters schools, but not one against them either.

Comment: Re:they've been trying to "join" for a while (Score 1) 80

by khallow (#49560011) Attached to: German Intelligence Helped NSA Spy On EU Politicians and Companies

Why wouldn't it be relevant to governance situations?

Because there aren't any corporate governments out there aside possibly from some local ones.

What governance you get is directly or indirectly shaped by your democracy.

Let's stop the glib bullshit here. The NSA isn't beholden to corporations. It even acts wildly counter to their interests.

Comment: Re:they've been trying to "join" for a while (Score 1) 80

by khallow (#49555563) Attached to: German Intelligence Helped NSA Spy On EU Politicians and Companies

Social democracies, one person one vote, corporations one person billions of votes, the other person fucking none.

I get that corporations aren't social democracies. What I don't get here is why that is relevant here, especially in governance situations that are neither social democracies or corporations.

Comment: Re:News? (Score 1) 112

by khallow (#49555547) Attached to: 7.8 Earthquake Rocks Nepal, Hundreds Dead

While I (vaguely) understand the notion that you are asserting, if the value of people can fluctuate (that is, human life has no intrinsic value), then what is the value standard in such a marketplace? Gold? dollars?

Whatever is traded in the market. I've found that even when there isn't a formal currency of trade (or the currency of trade is woefully inadequate for some reason such as a high rate of inflation or inability to use it for most trade in the market), markets tend to gravitate to a informal standard of trade.

And since human life is rarely traded directly, it is a tenuous connection in the marketplace, say to jobs that risk life and limb or in trade offs (such as where to live or what quality of tool to buy) which impose differing degrees of risk to a person's life.

This also leads to a rather dismal world in which some murders are ok, and some are slightly more ok than others. Of the choices of available dystopias, this one sounds less appealing than average.

It also happens to be the real world. Human life during a famine in Ethiopia is not as valuable as life in normal India (for example, the Thuggee cult, basically a small sect of serial killers, is supposed to have operated with near impunity for many centuries) which is not as valuable as a life in modern Sweden. This is also reflected in how crime is punished or not in these situations.

Ultimately, the poorer and more desperate a part of society is, the cheaper life becomes.

Comment: Re:News? (Score 1) 112

by khallow (#49550967) Attached to: 7.8 Earthquake Rocks Nepal, Hundreds Dead

What fucked up ethical system do you have that doesn't start by saying human life is inherently valuable?

It is we who choose to make human life valuable or not. And there are easy to conceive global collapse scenarios such as a global famine where human life has negative value - each additional mouth to feed takes food from everyone else and causes more suffering.

My view on this is that the economic mechanisms of trade and private ownership of capital have done far more to make human life valuable than any system of ethics. One can say the same of technology progress, particularly in agriculture, transportation, and labor saving devices.

Comment: Re:they've been trying to "join" for a while (Score 1) 80

by khallow (#49550801) Attached to: German Intelligence Helped NSA Spy On EU Politicians and Companies

Those double agents are not working in the interests of their country, they are working in the interests of the corrupt US corporations that control the US government.

You went way off the rails here. NSA has already done a lot to undermine corrupt and non-corrupt US corporations and nothing has been done about it. They still get their usual captive revenue stream (which let us note, will flow no matter how unhappy the business world gets about it). Just because large corporations are more useful to the US intelligence community than you are doesn't mean that they're in charge. It just means that the large corporation has some opportunity for profit as long as they continue to play ball. The tail, corporations aren't wagging this dog.

Do you really believe that curbing the power of businesses is going to result in the NSA spying less or hinder the other power grabs that the US federal government routinely engages in?

One of the huge things routinely missed in this topic is that business versus government is the huge informal division of power in democracies throughout the world. Making businesses absolutely subservient to government is another step towards tyranny. Sure, I don't think it's a good idea to let businesses rule our societies. But neither do I think it's a good idea to cripple them so much that they can't help us resist tyranny from the government side.

I can't help but think that you are an unwitting shill for a statist ideology which seeks to knock out the obstacles to rule.

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