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Comment Re:BUILD (Score 1) 208

And what if a pre-assembled PC is cheaper than your custom built PC by $300-$400 provided certain minor things are inferior to your custom PC?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! sides! You should have been modded +5 funny!

This never happens. Ever.

Businesses can buy components in bulk, at a far cheaper rate than the huge markup a typical customer gives to component makers when he buys individual components.

Ok, think about the market. Is the largest market segment high end or low end? The answer is low end. Vendors have a much easier time moving low end systems than high end systems, so they always bulk rate the low end in significantly higher quantities. The markup is lower, but they move a hell of a lot more of it. That's where the bulk of their profit comes from.

If you order a machine (via some configurator or something) and select a component that is either higher end or not something they're trying to dump, then you will pay a significant premium.

Go over to someplace like PC part picker and put together a machine for some budget. Then go to someplace like CyberPower and try and configure one with the same parts for the same price or cheaper. Even for low end you can put together a machine for at least $100 cheaper (and with better parts).

You also don't have to deal with malfunctioning parts because the pre-assembled PC has been tested.

You missed your calling. You should have been a comedian.

Perhaps you should go read forums about some of these vendors. DOA's. Foreign call centers. Botched RMA's. Runarounds. You're at the mercy of whatever QA process and team they had test these machines, then your at the mercy of whatever craptastic customer service they're running.

There are quality vendors out there, but you're going to be paying a premium. Good service isn't cheap and neither is good QA.

So it's not all black and white.

Yeah it is.

If you're fine paying a premium from a GOOD vendor, then by all means go ahead and do that. If you don't mind taking a chance with dumpster vendors or don't really care about getting the best value for your money, then go ahead a buy a prebuilt. But the best bang for your buck is going to come from building your own.

Comment Why not both? (Score 1) 208

Look what you want in a self build system and then look if you can buy anything like it. If not, you build it.

That said, I always build because I like doing it. But then I only upgrade and not buy a new machine. So to me that means:
New Mobo, CPU and memory if I need a new machine. And when I need a new videocard, I just add that.
I have 3 videocards, 4 monitors, so I do not have a standard setup that I can just buy and I only run Linux. can be a nice place to start.

Advantage of pre-build and running Windows is that the PCs are full of shareware who pay for your Licence. Companies get money to put their crap on your PC.

And to be honest, instead of dualboot, I would go with two systems, unless thye both need to be gaming systems.

Comment Depends if you want to support it (Score 4, Informative) 208

That really is the big issue with a self build: If something goes wrong, you have to track it down and handle all the support. If you get a pre-built from a good vendor, they'll handle it all. Say what you want about Dell, but all you have to do is run their diags (baked in to the UEFI) and call them with the code, they'll send a dude with the parts needed.

So that should be the major thing you think about. If you don't want to do support, then buy it from a vendor that will provide you with support to the level you require. I tend to recommend Dell because their hardware is reasonable and they have support available everywhere. They subcontract it, but it all works well. We use it at work all the time.

If you are willing to do support yourself, then building it gets you precisely what you want. I build my system at home because I have very exacting requirements for what I'm after and nobody has that kind of thing for sale. Like I don't want a "good large power supply", I want a Seasonic Platinum 1000, nothing else.

Also you'll find that generally at the higher end of things you save money building a system. For more consumer/office range stuff it usually is a wash: They build the mass market systems around as cheap as you could afford to. However when you start talking higher end gaming stuff, you can pay a large premium for things.

As an example I just built a system for a good friend of mine. He wanted some very, very high end hardware and pretty specific requirements. Origin PC would get him what he wanted... for about $9,000. I put it together for around $6,000. The gamer stuff often commands a hefty premium.

Comment Re:Lack of network connectivity is a deal breaker (Score 2, Informative) 98

even that is more difficult on the Zero because it doesn't have full size USB ports anymore.

do you have some sort of physical disability that prevents you from plugging in a USB cable?

Do you have some kind of developmental disability that causes you to miss points? The problem is that the USB port now requires a special cable which not all of us have lying around in quantity. It doesn't make it impossible, but it does make it more of a hassle.

Comment I'm going for the Pi... (Score 4, Informative) 98

Because it can EASILY be integrated into a project that needs very thin and small space used. No I am not interested in desoldering the headers. Plus the built in storage is useless. I would rather swap out a microsd card to update a system than upload changes to it.

And nobody sane believes the advertised prices.

Comment Which one is sub-$10? (Score 2, Informative) 98

Unless you get your hands on the MagPi or live near one of the twenty-five Micro Center locations in the USA, you can't get one Pi Zero for less than $9 even when they get them back in stock in the Swag store. CHIP is not yet preordering, they are still just taking email addresses. We don't yet know how much it will cost to get one in one's hot little hands, although my name is in to be notified when it happens. element14 wants $13.50 for one, because for some reason people who haven't discovered eBay are willing to keep sending them money even though they lie about stock on hand in the best case — which is what they did during the first Raspberry Pi launch. They weren't even fulfilling orders in-house, and they had no idea how much stock was at the fulfillment center, but they were reporting stock on hand. Ask me how I know.

Comment Re:It's a Criminal Organisation (Score 1) 143

yes her complaints are fact, they are not doing what she wants. Thank fuck for that, people like her always believe they can do better but instead of actually doing better they whine about others that are actually making an effort.

You do realize that Bill Gates essentially stole his fortune, right? The DoJ found that Microsoft had illegally abused its monopoly position in pretty much every way we have a name for. Then Ashcroft (under Bush) announced that even though we had already spent all the money and done all the work to figure that out, there would be no penalties. Shortly thereafter, Gates turned his ill-gotten gains into a foundation, and now we're arguing about whether he's helping or hurting more people, which is what we've been doing for basically the entire time it's been a thing. How quickly you rubes forget that Bill Gates is a career criminal.

Comment Re:The problem is that nothing they give is free.. (Score 2) 143

Medical: When working in 3rd world countries, those strings are absolutely necessary or the money just goes into mansions and swiss bank accounts.

It's actually much worse. If you don't play the Big Pharma Strong IP game, you can't get help from the Gates Foundation. And if you do, and then you have an outbreak of something expensive to cure in your country, you have two choices. You can make the medication yourself, and eventually end up with the world bank owning your country. Or you can pay whatever the market demands for the medication, and you can end up with the world bank owning your country.

Comment Re:It's their money... (Score 1) 143

A favorite target of the 'inequity' crowd seems to be Walmart.

Yes, that makes sense; they don't pay a living wage, and their existence destroys [small] businesses which do, at least to a larger percentage of their workforce.

And why not, after all their average employee makes about $15K/year, while the CEO makes $26M. Until you do math, that is. There are 2.2M employees. Paying the CEO the same as everyone else, assuming you could find someone to do the job, would result in an extra $10 PER YEAR for each employee.

There's lots of other places that you could squeeze money out of Wal-Mart besides just the CEO's salary. You've actually overestimated his pay for 2015, at least according to the official filings.

C. Douglas McMillon, President and CEO: $19,070,249.00
Charles M. Holley Jr., Executive Vice President and CFO: $7,294,712.00
Neil M. Ashe, Executive Vice President: $9,434,570.00
Rosalind G. Brewer, Executive Vice President: $9,549,184.00
David Cheesewright, Executive Vice President: $10,059,475.00
Gregory S. Foran, Executive Vice President: $19,531,039.00

But that's not all! For the fiscal year ended January 31, 2015, Walmart increased net sales by 1.9% to $482.2 billion and returned $7.2 billion to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. So yeah. On one hand, there's a lot more executive compensation than what you accounted for in your calculations. On the other hand, that's totally irrelevant, as you said. On the third hand, it's still a shit argument, because Wal-Mart actually spent billions of dollars on dividends and stock buyback. Surely they could have given one of those seven billions to their workers.

Comment Re:Ahh yes (Score 1) 143

"They are acting liberal but not liberal ENOUGH! They don't subscribe to precisely my kind of politics, so I need to hate on what they do."

No, the argument is that they are acting conservatively. Conservatives will tell you all day that there's nothing liberal about charity, and arguably there's reason to agree; you can participate in charity due to enlightened self-interest. Gates has decided that he wants to live in a world with less infectious diseases, and sure I'm on his side in that. But the way he spends the money to "fix" the problem is a band-aid. The problems are caused by poverty, and if you don't fix that problem then there will just be new problems — some of them caused by the way in which the Gates foundation spends its money! If they spent the money to reduce income inequality, then they would make the world a better place persistently. But they spend the money on fighting symptoms, and resist actual change. That's why when the Gates Foundation was revealed to be making investments that kill people, the end result was nothing. The foundation put a press release up on their site claiming they would review their investments' ethical impact, then the next day they took it down and put one up saying that they would be doing no such thing because that would be hard. The simple truth is that neither Gates nor his foundation give one tenth of one fuck about people. They are just making the world a nicer place for Bill Gates, while protecting the money he made by illegal means from taxes. There's nothing liberal about that.

The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was.