"a do no harm oath, just like most other industries"

Like which other industries?

First, an MBA is not an industry. Most likely they are not even industrialists. They are cogs in the machinery,

Second, again, what other industries have a 'do no harm oath'? Doctors claim to subscribe to this, Realtors purport to adhere to an ethical standard that could be confused with the do no harm mantra, Professional engineers have professional responsibilities to do work 'correctly', for lack of a better single word.

Do you think pharmaceutical researchers even bother with pretending to adhere to such an oath? recent experience would seem to deny this. Same for much of the food industry, certainly the financial industry (such so that we need copious law to restrict their behavior), and there are other examples. Even if you exclude sales, which if they followed such oaths would be in a position of serving two masters...

The premise is flawed, and demonstrably false. We wish everyone else treated us so, but in reality we often do not ourselves, out of self-interest. Which is sometimes understandable, and sometimes excusable. But not always.

We do not know that Autism sets in before birth, or, before brain development, and importantly, we do not know if you can develop it later on. I don't think any doctor would put aside the idea you can develop it during your early childhood. We know children can develop epilepsy, after birth, and in early childhood, and basically at any time, so why not Autism? That's objective, you can't absolutely state that we know when you “develop” autism, and that's important because it means there could be contributing factors. Does that mean I think vaccines are that contributing factor, no, there's been enough research to show the chance that vaccines could cause autism, or lead to it, is microscopically small.

That means you can't say for certain they don't, that's objective, it's a fact, you can't absolutely state we know they don't, again, you can't prove a negative. The first part of their statement is really just playing with that, and stating because we can't say it's absolutely a 0% chance, it's not 0, and that's fair, it's not 0, it could be (1 × 10^-10)%, but that's not 0. I developed a seizure condition as a teenager, no doctor can explain why, and I've seen 4 neurologists, since age 13. They have no idea, at all, why I have a seizure problem, MRI's can't show it, but you can watch me have a seizure. Since I have Asperger's, objectively, again, no doctor is going to state they absolutely know when I developed it. I know they won't, they can't tell me because the research doesn't exist.

Joe! for the win.

Why wait for MS? Just call the fake Amazon customer service line and ask them for help...

Interspersed with the occasional foray to the back porch, the better to put a few shells through the 12 gauge towards the cross-country skiers averting their eyes from the glare of the basement windows on Thanksgiving Eve... And blissfully somewhat out of range of #6, since Bill is too cheap to buy 00.

I'd happily use Joe, even in Windows, but alas even many Linux distros consider it unworthy of inclusion. Ya have to go get it

And I remember WordStar, the somewhat-less-obtuse-than-and-inspiration-for-Emacs editor...

And you, in particular, can be assured that few of the billion+ users of Windows care at all about this. Your low 6-digit UID notwithstanding.

You overlook WInME...

I'm unaware of any other sort. Paper checks are considered fraudulent by the trades I have access to, in Arizona, and not without good cause.

Your locale is not at all like mine.

...and it doesn't really have bugs...

Actually, it's an Office sort-of-clone, so OF COURSE it has bugs. It's Office (inspired).

Because, and read carefully, we all know only Microsoft and its lackey sycophants deliver buggy software.

Not an excuse, just a reality check. Once you get past Hello World, software gets, well, difficult. Film at 11.

Obviously, many people use Microsoft products, but not productively. You can't use them productively, the latency on their tools is so extreme, it's a fluke if you can get anything approaching “real-time”. Even if we ignored that major issue, the constant feature break, confusing circular portals, broken licensing, predatory licensing, lack of support, and everything else put together, you can't be a professional and a Microsoft user. At best, and I'm being generous, you could be an unwilling fraud posing as a professional, but that's as far as I'll go.

Not to mention, 85%+ of the computers on earth run a Linux / Unix variant. The vast majority of what you use or do, has to be done on Linux or Unix, which really poses the question, why does anyone hold out to be part of the 15%? If Microsoft didn't have a monopoly on preinstalls, I don't think they'd have any desktop share.

It's not the year of Linux on the desktop, that's been a meme for 20+ years. Providing the computer you buy comes preinstalled with Windows 11, Linux isn't going to become the new desktop king, but it already has every other market, so do we care?

Excel is a great example of a terrible and broken program. Contrast Excel against LibreOffice Calc, and it's striking the quality difference, and usability difference. Don't waste time learning Excel, learn Calc, and you'll be fine, then just tell everyone they have to use ODS, and you're off to the races.

If the feature count means 90% of the features are rushed, broken, nonsense, what use is it?

No it's not, I can't think of a tool that is good enough, from Microsoft, in 2025, that I would feel confident in trusting from a security, stability or usable prospective. Their best tools might get a tarnished aluminum foil award, and that would be a stretch.

Time and time again, three things keep constantly get proven:

1. Windows is a joke operating system for some weird end-game.
2. Microsoft's tools aren't meant for professional use.
3. Microsoft doesn't care, and isn't accountable to anyone.

I don't think Windows 11 has ever worked, I've faced unusual problems with it since the release, continuously. Add on to that constant reports of major degradation / feature breaks, and what are we left to assume? If something in Windows breaks, Microsoft will rarely admit it, throw blame like it's a contest, and then blame the user base, and everyone else. I've made this claim before, in multi-forms, and here again, the issue started in July, and it's November before they take any accountability?

When I say (paraphrased): “Professionals don't use Windows.”, this is why, you can't use it. It's either broken, breaking, frozen, stalled, disabled, unusable, or moving between one of those states. When you run into an issue, have you tried to get support? The support is so poor, that it's again some weird end-game to prove something, but what? The support isn't less than ideal, it's almost inspiring in its incompetence.

What was point 2? Have you tried using MS Office? I have a constant problem where my key buffer is delayed by seconds. This means I press “A”, it will take 1+ seconds to show up. I have demoed this issue to our CSM, and “support” only to be told it's my system. When I pushed back, and they asked for reports about my internet stability, front door server locations, and other points. I ran their support tooling, all the reports came back with I green star? They were excellent, and what did Microsoft do? Blame my system. In that email thread, on that message, they said (paraphrased): “Just use LibreOffice.”, what? Microsoft can't even keep up the lies, they admit their offerings are sub-par.

I'll wrap it up, I could go on about other tools, other platforms, portals, management, support, it's all crap.