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Comment Re:College education is still worth it (Score 1) 74

It's worth *something*, but the price has been outpacing inflation by a wide margin for years and years.

So we have value, but the price has been running away...

This is my thought. Being somewhat pedantic I feel like oversold is not quite right as there is still value in what they are selling, but they are going overboard on the costs to provide the degree. Many local/State colleges are still more than worthwhile.

If I were to hazard a guess, I'll note that in my place of employment for the past 30 plus years, there were groups like HR that would employ some of the more esoteric Liberal art majors, degreed people.

Today, there are perhaps more candidates than positions, and yes, some majors are considered a bit toxic.

We have created this problem by making available loans that allowed people who perhaps didn't have much business being in college to spend 4 years or more of their life living and going to school and having "the college experience", then, to borrow a phrase, having the "Surprised Pikachu Face" when reality hit that they were going to have to obtain employment and actually pay off that loan. Some have debts amounting to a modest house's value.

In reality, there is a difference between degrees that have gainful employment prospects, and those that do not. As well, I'm a little suspicious of the monovariant analysis that has been quite popular regarding employment renumeration, especially when dealing with large groups.

Comment Re:Meanwhile (Score 1) 41

It's better for you.

It's not better for a lot of businesses. The collaboration features of openoffice are sub-par. That alone excludes openoffice from most shortlists.

Then they are happy, and I am happy for them - they have found their solution. Ten again - If you as a business have zero options. than A Microsoft product, if the very success is predicated on Office 365, without which it all falls apart - you've created a monoculture.

Comment Wut? (Score 1) 74

There are two parts to this Culture and education. No doubt I'll anger some people, but here we go.

Colleges played an integral part in the incredible lack of connection he decries.

Because right now, they are pretty darn toxic.

He speaks of a "Loneliness epidemic". It certainly is true, there is one. But that atmosphere that has been created doesn't help a bit. As the female to male ratio has been increasing, there are less men available, and the ease with which a man can be destroyed plays some part in young college age males avoiding relationships.

I get Cleary reports as required by law. I get maybe one a year now. That colleges have been an unqualified success in reducing sexcrime, real or interpreted is beyond argument. They have also caused many young men to avoid young women completely as a protective mechanism.

And many of these young ladies understandably hate the results.

Whereas once upon a time, you would see many men and women in obvious relationships or just friends around the campus, today maybe 10 percent of the people I see are interacting with the opposite sex. Guys hanging out together, gals the same. So many more woman than men, and the males don't seem to be affected much by the situation. No question that this is not a good situation.

Can this change? It will require a huge culture shift. I do note that a lot of women are changing their approach. In the past year, I've seen a lot of women have lost the "College scowl" that was so popular since around 2005. More women actually smile and speak to me without prompting, and without the "whatever" attitude. I believe that the loneliness epidemic affects women more than men.

Point is, the College culture has to change - a lot. And those who created the present culture are going to resist, mightily.

Now Education

Sure - education for many of these kids was a colossal waste of money. Loans that they lived on before getting a worthless degree, graduating in big debt and finding out they have less employment opportunities than the guy who quit high school in 10th grade. They might have had fun living their best life and having that sweet College Experience, but really - didn't they check on the post graduation employment prospects?

Meanwhile those in majors that had good employment prospects have been able to secure jobs that pay well, and have paid down their loans.

We really do need a lot of revamping of academia. But it's going to take a miracle to change the present culture, which is the polar opposite of Genuine human community, but rather a deconstruction of human community. I suspect it will have to completely fall apart, then rebuilt with a more even handed paradigm.

Comment Sharing is caring (Score 1) 17

Maybe it is just synchronicity, or maybe these mega corporations like Google and Faceplant share way too much of our data.

I was using tent heater reviews on Youtube, lo and behold, the very brand I was gravitating towards on YT, shows up in my FB feed. Other times, similar things happen.

I don't consider it a huge invasion of privacy, but the creepy level goes up to 11 that I'd much rather not have. I hate to see how much of that happens with a computer that isn't battened down hard.

Comment Meanwhile (Score 1, Informative) 41

I've run along for years using one or the other Open Office applications. Right now, I'm using Libre Office and their spreadsheet app. It's ahem... better. It will open documents 365 won't, and it is cross platform compatible.

If people want to spend money on something they can get for free - you know what they say about fools and their money.

Comment Re:shame on you slashdot (Score 1) 237

Slashdot's mod system is not perfect, but it is better than most. They can spout whatever nonsense they want, you don't have to see any of their posts, or even know they posted something. It's like you can personally shadow ban them, and see less things that upset you.

It's amazing that after all these years other sites haven't cottoned on. Maybe precisely because it *is* better and harder to gamify.

True, dat. Drama lovers maybe? The Reddit model completely sucks. mods there have their little fiefdoms, utter one "wrong" word and you are gone or berated. Or stray from the topic a little, as normal people having normal conversations do, and you get hammered.

In here, yes, we are at the mercy of the mods as far as levels, I've posted factual things and ended up at -1 troll. But who gives a rats ass? Nothing has been deleted or blocked. Slashdot has a system that works, doesn't discard unpopular posts, yet allows people to avoid those posts if they like.

Some have tried to call this censorship. It is far from it.

Comment Re:ADHD does not exist (Score 1) 237

Yes, licensed physicians make mistakes, lots of them. And educated patients and their families *should* second-guess and question what their doctors say. But that doesn't make you qualified to determine that your son's psychiatrist "rubber-stamped" the teacher's hunch.

It appears you are not proficient at paying attention - My son had no psychiatrist, Notnone of these boys did. In the event that I ever said there was a psychiatrist involved, cite it. the teachers Mande the announcement, and then medical doctors obeyed and wrote out teh prescription. Perhaps your idea of a perfect step filled world is not as accurate as you think it is. Now one psychiatrist was involved in this. SO if you think I'm being obtuse, there might have been a tad more veracity in your idea that I was adverse to psychiatrists or some right wing weirdo.

Further, as someone who has been an educator, I have observed that parents are often the *least* aware of their own children's behaviors and problems in school.

You appear to be making a very prejudiced and quiet bigoted statement. And aer you a doctor in Parentchild relationships? Using your metric, unless you have that doctorate I must summarily reject your conclusion Just being a teacher is not enough, you are not qualif9ied - you only have an opinion that is not accurate - Your rules Tony Issac, not mine. Come back when you have the doctorate in psychiatry, otherwise you are not qualified. Your opinion means nothing - I follow your metrics.

It seems fashionable these days for parents to insist that their sweet little angel couldn't *possibly* be a mean brute to their classmates.

I agree - however once again you make a bigoted post claiming that I am in that subset of parents. I was a coach of youth ice hockey, and I ran into parents who acted as you describe. But no one was rougher on my son than me. I set strong boundaries, enforced them, I had no part on the trendy parenting. He never had a discipline issue in school.

Doctors make mistakes, but they don't just rubber-stamp teachers.

Perhaps I've seen that they do. So which one of is a liar, Tony Issac? You who say that Doctors never rubber stamp anything, or me, who has experience both in school and family matters, and say they sometimes do. I suppose as a teacher, you find my personal experience so repulsive so wrong, that you need to claim I am dissembling. So be it, and may none of your loved ones never have to go through what I have. May all of your teachers, psychiatrists and medical doctors be as perfect as you assume. Any further insults? I must say, your attitude is not dissimilar to many of my son's teachers.

Comment Re:ADHD does not exist (Score 1) 237

No, grade school teachers are generally not qualified, and as a result, they are unable to provide a diagnosis. But a teacher, seeing many students, might recognize the symptoms and refer a student to a psychiatrist, which sounds like what happened here.

YOU are not qualified to determine that the doctor's diagnosis was a rubber stamp.

Are you trained in psychiatry? Do you have a license to practice medicine? If the answer is no, then you are not qualified to determine whether your son has ADHD, or to determine that the doctor's diagnosis is incorrect.

I am "trained" in Electromagnetics. DC to daylight. Fully qualified. It is most interesting you believe that I am unqualified to make any judgement, other than in my field.

I work in an academic environment where I give counsel to doctors in many fields. They seem to have less disdain for it that you do. Although I've run into a few, like the Doctor of Engineering that tried to have me fired because I called him by his first name. Or the one I insulted by correcting an egregious mistake on his part to one of his students. It would have destroyed the student's work his grade, and cost possibly millions. Neither got far. Insecure people with degrees.

Smart people listen to what others have to say. I do. I've asked for and taken advice from the person cleaning the office, or more often from electricians. I gauge if the advice or statement has merit, and accept or deny it based on the merit, not the person's education level. I don't have a doctorates in anything, yet I'm considered a resource among many who do. As expensive as my burn rate was, I was in high demand for different groups, many of which had little to do with my field. For crying out loud, I was a process chemist for a year. So far from my field it was ridiculous. But I did well, filling in and learning until they hired a new chemist. I got the work because I had developed a unique photo exposure and processing method for metallurgy, I supposed.

Now on to these medical experts. I've had 3 relatives killed by doctors. Bad professional Medical Doctor prescription work damn near killed my wife. My mother in law had a TIA, was in the hospital in the ER. She said they had given her a diuretic and she was peeing a lot.

Wife and I were talking to the ER doctor, a nice lady, who told us they were concerned about MIL's strange low potassium levels. I noted that they had given her a diuretic was urinating a lot, which probably caused the low potassium. The ER doctor went wide eyed and blushed. "Oh - yes, that's what caused the low potassium. Thank you!" Stopped the Diuretic, and the potassium levels returned to normal fairly quickly. I am presumably not allowed to note that - except I will, and I am. One does not need a Doctorate to know that potassium levels can get unbalanced when taking a strong diuretic.

The only place where the degree makes a person "correct" is a courtroom, and everyone has their doctors with different opinions. Which one is correct?t. People who are not doctors are on the Jury, casting judgement. You see my friend, that doctorate (in any field) does not make a person an ubermenchen. The only people who have issues with my judgements and opinions are people who are insecure. the idea that I am someone whois versed in many fields, and sorry, I've been around long enough to know that they are not infallible, and have seen their qualified "professional" mistakes often enough that if they don't want to hear my thoughts - they won't be my doctor. They are not in any way superior. And the smart ones listen. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. But determining I am wrong because of my background - that's wrong.

Comment Re:ADHD does not exist (Score 1) 237

I don't know which one you are. But I'm confident that every single psychiatrist that diagnoses a child, is more qualified than you.

Do you believe that grade school teachers are qualified? I was very clear about grade school teachers diagnosing entire population of male students as suffering from ADHD. Interestingly all males, no females.

The parents took them to a doctor and he or she rubber stamped the diagnosis. What are your bona fides to say that you are qualified to dismiss my experience. I'm diagnosing nothing except that my son did not have ADHD, when the administrators threatened me with liability because my son was a big strong lad - that didn't seem like an indication, and I told them so Pissed them off royally . Did some of his male classmates have ADHD? Considering the number, a good chance. All of them? Nope.

Comment Re:ADHD does not exist (Score 2) 237

What is your solution to this however, a person who needs extra time or to bring mommy along because they have anxiety - how are they going to be accommodated when they graduate and look for a job?

There is a simple (and difficult) solution, but it destroys the illusion that having a college degree is a simple way to determine if someone will be a good employee.

If the degree is meant to show that someone has the knowledge to do the job, it isn't great because they don't teach enough on the job related skills in college. If the degree is meant to show that someone has the critical thinking skills to do the job, it isn't great because those skills aren't focused on much in most colleges. If the degree is meant to show they can work and think quickly under pressure, it isn't great because schools will often accommodate for students who struggle in those areas. If the degree is meant to show they can work hard and follow through with a fairly challenging four year task, it is pretty good at that. If the degree is meant to show they have enough foundational knowledge to learn to do the job, it is pretty good at that. If the degree is meant to show they came from an upper middle class socioeconomic background (so they fit in with the corporate culture), or at least had middle class families that worked hard to give their children the benefits of an upper middle class upbringing, it is pretty good at that too.

If you want someone to do a job that is high stress and requires quick thinking, you better assess for that competency yourself instead of assuming a college degree is enough of a hiring filter. But most jobs don't (or shouldn't) require those skills.

I am in corporate strategy, and while I can think on my feet well enough to handle meetings with executives, I do my best thinking after a few hours (or weeks) of contemplation and research. No one should want someone to help advise on critical business decisions just because they are better at coming up with a decent answer in 5 minutes. Different jobs require different skills.

I don't disagree with what you wrote - but it doesn't answer the question I posed. Adult children didn't bring their parents along to job interviews or work in the past. I'm referring to say, before 20 years ago. In the academic environment I was in - I still am, but not much academic work around students - in the early 2000's, during orientation, we ended up separating the parents from their children, to tell the parents that they needed to allow their children to grow up. We had some"humorous" examples of student's calling their parents to have a professor or instructor fired because they were "mean to them". And no, we were not going to fire our professors unless they did something criminal. And told to not go to their children's job interviews, or overly interfere.

And it was semi successful. You could tell which parents ignored the advice. We had some millenials who had a stress tolerance of zero.

One of our hires was a guy who freaked out every time I spoke to him. "Good morning" delivered as chirpy as I could, was enough to trigger a minor panic attack. I had to assign one of the women to give him his work, and I avoided him until he washed out.

He was an extreme example, but except for two women who were some of the best employees I ever worked with, these kids were simply not ready to adult. So it was about bit less than 10 percent success rate in my department. And before that people didn't stress out of the job.

Comment Re:ADHD does not exist (Score 1) 237

I have no doubt that some children have been misdiagnosed. But the claim of over-diagnosis is generally made by parents who are skeptical of psychiatry in general, believing it to be a bunch of mumbo jumbo. These parents are not well educated in the seriousness of the condition, and are not qualified to judge who is properly diagnosed and who is not.

Which am I Tony? Unless you are an expert with bona fides in Psychiatry and psychiatric drugs, You aren't qualified to have an opinion either.

Comment Re:"disabled" (Score 1) 237

If the kids are looking for the real surprise, it’s at the bottom of the box.

When “disabled” college students graduate and find out what “word” got added to the default rejection filter at LinkedIn.

Then they’ll find out the value of honesty and integrity.

This! So much this. What was used as a flex in the education is a terrible liability when they are expected to adult.

If you are incapable of handling anxiety and stress, your employment opportunities shrink dramatically. And even if you do get hired in some of these jobs, you will wash out pronto,

Comment Re: "disabled" (Score 1) 237

Do they also get to bring their "emotional support animals" to the test?

Hi, Prof. Here for the test. I've brought my emotional support nerd. Nerds aren't people, so he counts. Don't mind if we wispers emotionally supporting right answers into my ear.

TFA has a bit about a kid who brought his mother to class and she ended up doing all of his class participation for him.

Bastards won't let me bring my emotional support stripper into the classroom. Tatianna relieves all of my stress.

Comment Re:Have you met these kids? (Score 3, Insightful) 237

I think anxiety is pretty common in college students.

Exactly. After getting through the teen years - which has anxiety, then college - which has a lot of anxiety, they will enter the workforce - and find out just how much anxiety there can be. You might get extra time on a test because of anxiety, but that isn't going to fly when you miss hard deadlines.

I think there has to be some sort of talk therapy for kids to be able to handle anxiety. If you feel anxious, explore that with a therapist. It is not going away, and you cannot be shielded from it forever. Children need to understand that, and that a certain amount of resilience is needed to become a full fledged adult.

I'm dealing with that right now. I was called back from retirement to work at a job that all the new hires were failing. A lot of responsibility, and some stressful moments. They stressed out, and either became belligerent or so anxious they stopped functioning. Granted, not everyone wants to be in that sort of work, but the rewards are also great. Stressful, anxious moments? Sure. A countdown to a Rocket launch invokes some anxiety. I feel concerns until my project is finished. Just natural. When the day is done, I'm happy about it.

But calling back the old dude because the young people can't handle it tells us a lot, and it isn't good.

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