Well played sir. Gratuitous insults. Those Special Olympic kids are a lot better at being humans thant you and your fear.

I think if your arguents have come down to really really lame insults like comparing me to a bunch of less fortunate children, you got nothing. You can have the last post, because I tend not to argue with creeps. Have fun.

You're really confused, AC I have a number of firearms. I suppose if one were pointed at me in anger, I might have fear.

More the bullet though than the firearm - unless my opponent was using teh firearm s a club.

Definitely. The 45 is not really my choice for self protection - though it wll do in pinch.

I'm always torn between the double barrel shotgun, with one chamber loaded with buckshot, and the other with a slug, and a pump shotgun.

Unlike many, the last thing I want to do is kill someone. I figure the shot load s a way of getting the perp's attention, and the slug in the event I have to take him out if he doesn't pay proper attention to the first shot.

Then again, there is something about the pumping sound of a Winchester 870 that immediately gets someone's attention.

That being said, there's an interesting double barrel bullpup made by the Standard Manufacturing. The DP-12 - that's certain to make a perp run for the hills if he survives.

http://www.downrange.tv/blog/f...

The video is rather impressive.

Tell me kook, where did I say that? I respect everyone's property rights, as well as I will defend my own.

I really have to bow out here, you are going to start making assumptions that I fucked Jane Fonda and burnt tth American flag in a satanic ritual with Bill Clinton and the Acorn people, and assist illegal mexican rapists come across the vborder to infec law abiging Americans with AIDS, and work at a job Pumping the Toxins into Jet planes in order for them to make their Contrals.

Yes, your solution is better. Problem is though, these folks have more than just drone fear going on. . If for some reason I wanted to spy on sunbathing teenagers. A drone ain't the way to go.

It's an interesting concept. If the drone owner can produce video of his flight, that might knock the perp's final claim out of the water.

As we can see, there are a lot of terribly insecure and fearful people in here who have some issues who would likewise shoot a drone down because of that fear.

But let's take a typical toy drone. At 200 feet, if it crosses over some young lady sunbathing, you have some issues with the camaera.

First issue is that these cameras are usually pretty wide angle. So even if a downwad facing camera is selected, the sunbather at 200 feet is going to show up very very small on the video. Plus the forward camera, usually the better of the two (if there is two cameras. would have to be pointed down at an almost vertical angle from 200 feet. Or even 100 feet for that matter. Simple trig. Anyone want to calculte what speed and prop jiggling is needed for the drone to approximate an airplane, and the shutter speed effects that condition would incur?

. Now of course, it's possible that the victim spoofed (dictionary definition) his GPS and date/time and route he took with the drone. How likely is that? not terribly, and the facts in the case would have to have shown what appears to be some close cooperation between the victim and the perp. with both being experts in not only operating drones, but the software running them.

Or did you mean a photo of what she looked like?

yes it is, because you just made a rationalization for shooting down any aircraft at all that travels over "your" airspace.

Very troubling, indeed.

Are you having some kind of imaginary conversation with some imaginary person ?

The guy who had his drone shot down wasn't spying on anyone's children. Just because you are afraid of everything in the world doesn't mean you are allowed to shoot everything you are afraid of.

If a person drives by your house, do you have the right to just say he's spying on your daughter, so you pop a few rounds at him?

Growing evidence is pointing to the shooter as merely trying to protect himself post crime, and you kooks are defending his criminal actions. Owning a firearm is a second amendment right. Committing crimes with it is not.

Oh slag off with your asshole second amendment fearblather.

I own, enjoy, and use firearms. I find especially target shooting, very relaxing. I would have made a damn good sniper.

But the difference between myself and you gun kooks is that I am not at my core, a fearful child who cannot imagine themselves a man without their gun.

As long as a person gets to shoot something, a lot of people think tht's awesome.

Hate and fear of a widdle biddy toy drone is not rational. Non rational people often paint the perp as the victim.

Then they should quit using the word "faster", because that doesn't say what they think it does. I could say my 1 Mbps HomePNA network is faster than my 300 Mbps cable internet and everybody would laugh at me because clearly 300 Mbps is faster (even if is has ten times higher latency).

Next they'll be agitating for their second amendment rights to own and use surface to air missiles.

With all the fear?

In addition, this fear is too fearful to even look like fear - it's masked with goofy bravado. It's like the friend's husband who sleeps with a .45 under the pillow, no safety engaged. (takes time to take it off yaknow) Brags about it. The friend who keeps one in every room, and vehicle and a shorty strapped to his ankle. That's fear

This Tennessee case is just anther example of that fear. "Oh a Drone! Must be th' Guvmint spying on me, or maybe a homo looking for a place to marry his boyfriend! Quick, shoot that fucker down! Not on my property? Well it could fly over my property if it flew over my property - that's all the reason I need"

Lest liberal kooks think I'm just picking on the right wing kooks, your own version of this fear is your ADT protected house in your gated community with your safe room in it. You put yourself in a prison, yet you still don't feel safe.

But right wing kooks - you have a real problem coming up.....

When law abiding gun owners exercise their second amendment rights to weaponize their drones.

Your own divide by zero moment.

How you gonna protect yourself from illegal aliens and skittle brandishing chocolate people if you aren't allowed to have your Parrot packin'?

Fear is the mind killer. And it's doing a hellava job.

He's not listening - he had to go to Panera with his assault rifle to express his second amendment rights. And ye never know, there might be some drones or party balloons to shoot down on the way.