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Comment Re:Has already been discussed in literature (Score 1) 162

Take 5min to read this short essay by Asimov, you won't be dissapointed. Asimov was more than just the guy who wrote about fictional robot laws, for example, he was also well known skeptic. Not the modern anti-science kind, a real skeptic, spelt the old fashioned way!

None of it is about robot ethics, it's a metaphor about the folly of thinking that a list of rules, such as the ten commandments, could ever encapsulate all the vagaries of human morality.

Well, Kant with his categoric imperative managed that with even a single rule. (But kind of cheated as it was kind of recursive)

Besides, thanks for the hint. I know I should have read more Asimov (as I always liked what I read) but somehoe never could quite adjust to the style somehow.

Naturally, the theories we now have might be considered wrong in the simplistic sense of my English Lit correspondent, but in a much truer and subtler sense, they need only be considered incomplete.

But the importantthing is to keep the basic humility and remember that no matter if your current knowledge is incomplete or plain wrong, one day it will be amended or rectified. And by his own logic, the diffrence between remembering that and assuming your current theory is "right" in the simplistic way, is much much larger than between "wrong" or "incomplete"

Comment Has already been discussed in literature (Score 1) 162

c.f. Isaac Asimov and his laws of robotics, for example "I, Robot" (not the unrelated movie of the same title) Whatever I read so far by Asimov (not THAT much I admit) centered around such robo-ethical questions and how to circumvent them

So, according to the robot laws:

No, it SHOULD not as it would endanger a human.
Thinking this through to the end would mean that a robot should never serve any drug (down to coffee) to a human.
But yes, it would serve alcohol to an alcoholic as he would be kept from checking the contents of the brown bad it serves to the human and that has been packed by ANOTHER robot. Neither wrapping a beer bottle in a brown bag, nor fetching a brown paper bag is dangerous.

The realistic solution would be (as circumvention is that easy) to serve that drink but log it.

Comment Re:Nice work if you can get it (Score 1) 305

I don't mean that it should be like that, but it would be an alternative to those multi-million development companies that are currently for big construction projects. Rental houses create a constant stream of revenue and a share of that probably would make much a bigger difference for a construction worker who build the house than dumping it on top of the pile of a nameless hedgefund.

Comment Re:Too Much or Too Little? Economically? (Score 1) 305

Already posted, so please accept this +1 insightfull.

But there is one flaw: How would you measure if we have "enough" people in music creation? Do numbers count at all? What about quality? How many pop idols would be needed to outweigh a Leonard Bernstein? How many for an Elvis Presley?

Comment Re:Nice work if you can get it (Score 1) 305

Why should something that generates revenue over time not be paid out the same way to the creator? A book or a movie (that is more than single-use-pulp) may be selling books and DVDs and ads in TV reruns for decades.

if you're asking for the creators to be payed upfront when the work is finsihed, you'd need to find someone who is going to finance that - paying with money that has not been earned yet.

There are certainly advantages to such a model, but it would definitly create a middleman with too much power. (Or restore the power of publishers that they are currently losing due to easier self-publishing and self-marketing online)

But I agree that the whole system is broken at several points

Comment Re:Doesn't matter. (Score 1) 126

you can't tell the difference between obvious propaganda and a news organization which tries hard to be impartial?

Of course I can do that. That's easy. The problem starts where you have to tell the difference between non-obvious propaganda and sloppy journalism due to budget reasons.

Yes, your course of action (reading and comparing multiple sources) would help, but boils down to do your own research and become your own expert, just to recognize bad newspaper articles.

And if that wouldn't be hard enough, you would have to be self-reflecting enough to recognize your own bias. Which is harder than you think, because to yourself, bias appears as knowledge. Usually of the "Everyone knows that..." or "Someone who I accept as expert once told me that..." or "It's common knowledge that.." varieties.

And it takes a really scientific mindest to accept that what you know may be completly wrong. (Our brain is wired to work with inaccurate information which is cool on its own, but the opposite of scientific)

Comment Re:Doesn't matter. (Score 1) 126

we're human beings. we're all biased. if you want your media to be free of bias, you will never read anything ever again

That would be indeed more of a solution than a problem.

But in reality, people who want their media to be free of bias rather tend to consider media, that shares their own bias as bias free.

Comment Re:Amateurs... (Score 1) 378

But what if they would find out that there is MORE stained money found in the debris than there was inside?

In what way would that benefit a thief to leave money, stained or not, at a crime scene?

I left open the option "just for lulz". Yes, not everyone personally benefits from causing confusion.

Sounds to me like either a source for lulz or a way to wash (somehow literally) dirty money. (with a little inside help of course)

Nevermind. I didn't realize you were the actors in Office Space that had to look up the dictionary definition of money laundering.

Money laundering only works if you get the "clean" money back after it's been "laundered". If you have a guy on the inside that would get the money after it's been replaced, whether it's extra or not, it's not money laundering. It's just plain theft. And you wouldn't even need to go through hassle of laundering it, they would just steal it to begin with.

I even wrote "literally" laundring it - like removing stains.

And there is a huge difference if your inside man is replacing extra money: it won't be missed, lowering the risk of detection.

Sorry I'm not comming up with laid out plans for the perfect crime as a response to a /.-post, but I guess getting finding a way to have someone trusted (like another bank) replacing your stained bills would be the way to go if you were in that line of business.

Comment Re:Amateurs... (Score 4, Interesting) 378

Many times, it destroys the money completely in the process, but as it seems, usually enough remains that the practice continues.

Well, it's not their money they're destroying...

The most effective measure taken to discourage the practice was to pack bags of dyes inside the ATM cassetes, so that the money is stained and rendered unusable. If you try to deposit stained money, it'll be confiscated on the spot.

Hmm... they can take the stained money, but neither deposit or spend it.....

They're probably going to leave behind stained money, as it is of no use to them. The bank, on the other hand, of course will re-deposit their own stained money....

But what if they would find out that there is MORE stained money found in the debris than there was inside?

Sounds to me like either a source for lulz or a way to wash (somehow literally) dirty money. (with a little inside help of course)

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