Of course there is a reason. They got away with it, so they'll do it again.

Kinda like rioters and looters we've seen recently, and those inciting a riot.

They get away with it...lather, rinse, repeat.

Thank you. You bring up a great point, namely that there is no alternative except for "don't use this part of the universe at all". I think that's a problem.

While I agree this is distasteful, and I hate the companies are doing this...I have to say, it isn't the worst thing in the world to say I won't use this.

It isn't like we're talking life/death here, just a loss of a newly discovered convenience. I mean, what did people actually do back in the dark ages, before Fitbit or cell phones? How did they ever manage to exercise and track their progress? Hmm....

Seriously, while these things might be nice, you have to decide if it is worth your trading in your privacy info for God knows what purposes it may be repurposed into?

I generally vote no on things like this, and my quality of life hasn't degraded to any extent I can measure.

I remember not that long back...early to mid 90's when you rarely ever saw an advertisement.

People need to be reminded that the internet is supposed to basically be a large network, where anyone can connect and set up a peer computer/server and trade information. I wasn't set up for making $$. While business is extremely valid on the internet, that is not the primary reason for its creation, and hopefully...not for its continuance nor regulation.

2. There are already safegards for this in place such as annual safety and emissions inspectsion. Granted not every state requires this, but I see nothing wrong with a law that states "your car must meet these safety parameter to be driven on public roads". which could include (an in many states already does include) a sanity check on the engine control module.

Ahh...nice to live in a state where there aren't any emissions checks. I didn't realize this was something states other than CA did frankly, until recently reading posts like this on /.

And even here..inspection is just honk horn, turn on lights and wipers and you're good to go.

You see the tech person as lacking something that needs to be improved in order to join the frat brothers.

No, I do find tech people that ALSO have people skills. I'd be hiring them over someone that can't talk to his co-workers or employers very well.

*consuming* alcohol simulates and increases human reproduction, and therefore, the evolution of humans continues.

Hey!!

Ugly chicks need loving too!!!

;)

...therefore I am.

Rich white frat boy "tech founders" like being around other rich white frat boys.

You had me at rich.

:)

But seriously...if they got rich by knowing enough tech to found and build a startup, what's your beef with them? And, of course, most people like to hang out, and associate with people that reflect the same traits and beliefs that they do, that's just human nature.

But if YOU are a flexible person, you should be able to get along with most anyone. Me? I went through high school and ran with many crowds. I hung out with the potheads in the parking lot, I knew a lot of the jocks and went to parties with all strata of kids, many of whom had FAR more money than my family did, but that didn't stop me from connecting and making friends of all types.

I found that working early jobs in the service industry helped....bus boy, waiter, bar tender, retail sales all helped me learn even more about how to work with people.

Same skills took me from there to college and later to my professional life. Know what? I still am able to generally speak with and deal with and even schmooze with folks of all types in the world.

Learn some people skills, and don't get so hung up on what other people are like. So what if it is a rich white frat guy.

Learn to deal with them and it might get you in the circles of people that are getting wealthier and help you do the same.

It will often carry you much further than just being the best technically.

I've seen it over and over in my professional career and even with myself. At many jobs, I've been the least qualified as far as pure, hard core tech skills, but having people skills, being outgoing, and NOT being afraid to stand up in front of even a small group to give a presentation has carried me further than many people I knew starting out, and knew the tech far more than I did or still do.

It will help you get your foot in the door on many interviews, and it will carry you in the company quite often. You can't be an idiot and no clue about the technical skills required, but if you aren't the #1 tech stud in the group, having people skills can actually make you a stand out that will get promoted and allow you to progress in your career.

And , it also helps you get laid a bit more too, but that's a different thread.

Definitely justifiable....what's next? Mexican only New Years Eve fireworks there? Blacks only 4th of July BBQ at the Whitehouse....?

Seriously, why is discrimination based on sex ok in THIS case?

Maybe we had more practice back in my day, or less overall distractions?

I mean...worse distraction you had was jamming to the stereo on way home from the bar, now....you have folks trying to do cell phones while driving and listening to stereo.

:)

I can't stand roasted/baked turkey, ugh.

And by the way..what's wrong with eating an EGG?

Simple, natural food. I'd rather have that than a bunch of man- made chemicals. I'm currently trying to get rid of most of the chemicals man puts into things these days....and it ain't easy.

Just locate the "hot" end of the firing range along the MX border.

Anything that crosses into it...is a valid target. I figure after about 4-5 boxes of .50cal ammo, word will get around and we won't have the illegal crossing problems we currently are saddled with...

Dig the moat, set mines....etc.

That would solve a LOT of problems and actually be within the mandates the federal govt has from the Constitution....protecting our borders.