And how long has there been misogny in women in IT discussion on slashdot? How long have guys like you been throwing around "social justice warrior" as an epithet? And I'm the bad guy for throwing a few curses around?

No, I'm not.

Is taking away something from you that you stole and giving it back stealing? No, because you didn't earn it in the first place. You might think you did, but you didn't.

In the long term it is. Because then you will HAVE to earn what you get fairly against real competition without "cheating"
Let me use a gaming example? Isn't it more rewarding to beat a game without cheats, than with? Beat it on "Normal" and not "easy"?

I don't think so, I've not seen any feminist use it, but I sure have seen a lot of anti-feminist men do so here on Slashdot.

Modern Slashdotters in their 20's have more in common with jocks than old style geeks/nerds. You've seen the term "brogrammer" bandied around. They may be a programmer, but they watch ESPN and drink brewskis with the bros rather than put on spock ears, go to a con and play Battletech. Besides, being a geek doesn't mean you can't engage in "locker room style" misogyny even if you're a geek.

The "program" is simple, it's: "Don't be a misogynist/racist/etc, and we need to remedy past and present discrimination" What part of that is controversial? We learned the value of that years ago.

I consider the term "social justice warrior" perjorative. Shouldn't we all be striving for social justice that betters us all? And when I talk about social justice it's something I believe in. I've identified strongly as a feminist since about 1991. I consider myself "Third wave" by the way.

  The overuse of that term (and others like "White knight") over the past few months of the various minorities in computing discussions on Slashdot has made me rather angry at what I perceive as the overly privileged locker room mentality here. Normally I'm rather easy going and don't participate in the women in IT discussions in part because I find the misogyny in them disgusting....but I've had enough of what I think of as overly selfish jerks on Slashdot. It's 2014, it's time for those people to get with the program. I'm tired of being "nice".

The thing is, I'm usually not so free with them. I'm just getting tired of the "dickishness" from people who claim to be so smart and superior that they should be running things. Meaning the average politician-bashing "sheeple-bashing" slashdotter

But basically my response is the same as whistlingtony's

The current remedies aren't racism themselves, though I am aware that certain people, like yourself, consider them so.

If you don't like those remedies, then what do you want society to do?

I would call white males receiving preferential treatment in society ever since the US was created, "when". They still do, to a certain extent, though it is better than it was.

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I am well aware of that, but the surgery helps for documentation in some states doesn't it. And most non-trans consider the surgery the "test of realness"

So the surgery still matters, even if it shouldn't.

Look, I understand how you feel, and posted similar things in the other recent discussions on this...but all you'll get is a bunch of overprivileged twats working together to flame you to oblivion and pulling out various "it isn't a problem" "It's not my problem" or "citation needed" on you.

They simply don't understand that they've been privileged, they don't see their lives as that way. They have no experience dealing with people who aren't like them. It's like how Google and Facebook is full of ivy leaguers, or how there seems to be a fairly significatn number of aspie-ish guys with beards in open source. They hire/work with others like themselves. To them it's not discrimination it's just that "These other people whose backgrounds are like mine and who look like me are the best for the job.."

It's bigotry wearing a respectable suit and tie, the hardest kind to fight.

They essentially did, the fallout from that is why we have the problems they're trying to fix.

No it's not.....well maybe if you use one of those cut-rate docs in Thailand and do the recovery in a hotel. Even in the US you spend a day or so at a hospital, then you go to a "recovery clinic" or hotel. Though I've heard the more expensive docs in Thailand are starting to do the US model.

This doesn't include any breast augmentation or FFS (facial feminization surgery) or electrolysis or laser (which can cost MORE than the actual surgery)

That would make a great sig....but there are too many Sheldon's on Slashdot.

The rich have lower tax rates now than they ever did and they STILL think they're paying too much. If you ever watch mad men you'll remember Harry talking about the top rate being over 90 percent (which even left-wing me thinks was excessive) But then again we had an economic boom, not withstanding the various social inequalities going on. Kennedy dropped that to the high 60's (67% IIRC) which is what I think it should be now..and isn't...what is it, 35%?

INteresting, I'm not sure I agree without, but that is very interesting. You do know, of course, that Richard Nixon was in favor of a National Minimal Income...though IIRC you had to work to get it. Basically what we now call EIC was the pilot program....never fully implemented.

Oh? which ones?

Google "laudanum"...people have been using various botanical based recreational drugs for millenia.

Khat in the middle east, Coca in South America, Opium, Marijuana, alcohol. They've been around a looong time.

People SHOULD drink less alcohol. There is one good that came out of prohibition...Americans still consume less alcohol per capita than they did before. Really, Americans drink less than they did before prohibition. Alcohol consumption was totally insane before prohibition. Prohibition finally got it through everyone's heads that drinking too much was socially unacceptable.

The Prohibition and Suffrage movements were also closely aligned. Both Susan B Anthony and Elisabeth Cady Stanton were pro-temperance. Prohibition was basically women using their new power and influence (thanks to WWI) to reduce a serious social problem. Note that until relatively recently alcoholism was MUCH more prevalent in men. in fact the first AA book was titled: "Alcoholics Anonymous: The Story of How More Than One Hundred Men Have Recovered From Alcoholism"

Notice the "Men" part. Men still drink more than they ought...in part that's because most alcohol advertising is aimed at men so drinking is considered more of a part of "The Rite of Being a Man". Women ARE starting to drink more..that's not a good thing.

That could be used to justify some pretty awful behavior, just so you know.