> Does still not make sense. The cost for a particular function is the exact same regardless where you call it.

Do you even understand what an Instruction Cache is?? And the importance of locality?? Too -much- inlining can be worse then not enough inlining. If had actually worked on a C++ compiler on consoles then you would understand.

On PS3 some games can have a performance delta upto ~10% depending on a) the DISTANCE away non-inlined functions are, and b) HOW MANY functions are inlined. I'm talking from real world experience not from your theoretical clueless assumptions of how CPUs work.

In theory every memory access has the same cost (time), in practice the 3 levels of cache show a wildly varying performance difference.

You really should read: "What every programmer should know about memory"

http://www.akkadia.org/drepper...

Before continuing to spout off your ignorance.

Considering Minecraft has sold over 54 million copies, a few million which are on PC and OSX, yeah, people STILL use Java.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

The hypocrisy of the government is retarded.

--
"It is the government proselytizing it is propaganda. When it is people promoting it, it is outlawed."

This 100x times.

I'm so tired of my C++ programs breaking from one version of the compiler to another or from compiler flags. /glares at gcc and clang ...

Do you understand profile-guided optimization ?

You feed the results of the profiler BACK into the compiler so it can adjust inlining as necessary.

If you don't understand a concept, ASK.

You're right!

I should of said: over-engineering.

We _already_ went through the "mistake" of Embedded C++ in the 90's -- a subset of C++ with no RTTI and Exceptions turned off.

We don't need sub-sets of languages. We _already_ have those when programmers don't use all the complicated and over-engineered parts of C++.

And this is any different from local, state, and federal laws how again?

A community always has its own laws.

Whether this happens physically or virtually is no difference. Why?

ALL (man-made) laws are relative.

A good moderation system is:

a) fair; in that everyone can vote
b) doesn't censor; perspectives that aren't in alignment with the community "standard" are still there, just down-voted

Politics is a "moderation" system but completely corrupt because those with the most money are the "loudest."

Groupthink isn't the problem. Not allowing those with a differing (or opposite) opinion, aka censorship, IS.

This needs to be modded +10.

C++ has become a clusterfuck of engineering.

Some of the most painful moments of my life were working on a professional C++ compiler. Almost everyone uses the EDG front end to minimize the pain of parsing C++ into an AST.

When is C++ going to natively support multiple return types?
i.e.

float sin, cos, angle;
    sin, cos := SinCos( angle );

Right now we can use a struct hack, but native support would be appreciated.

_When_ are pragmas going to be standardized instead of relying on brain-dead proprietary extensions where MSVC does things one way and GCC another way? i.e. I'm specifically talking about the idiotic verbose

__attribute__((always_inline))
 
    __inline
    __forceinline

intead of having a native way to hint the compiler about how hot or cold a function is.

inline = 100 void Foo(); // function is 100% hot, always inline
 
inline = 0 void Foo(); // function is 0% cold, never inline
 
inline = 75 void Foo(); // function is 75% hot, inline most of the time

Lastly, C++ has been extremely complex. When is C++ going to simplify the total over-engineering of the language?

Banning images isn't the problem. Why do you think /. has a lame-ass "lameness" filter? Because people were posting ASCII porn.

i.e.
8====> or whatever the penis bird crap was back then.

As another user pointed out, the ability to FILTER and MODERATE allows the community to self-police itself. You can post offensive stuff _solely_ with text using words. The "classics" are the N, C, or F words. i.e. http://southpark.cc.com/clips/...

Sites that only allow upvotes are retarded as they don't give people the option to filter out the "noise".

A _good_ site allows people to upvote the signal and downvote the noise

Mod parent up.

Plus the ability to borrow books and loan them to family members.

Indeed. $100 seems to be a common barrier.

With the 256 GB Samsung 840 EVO less then $100 ($0.78125/GB) and the 256 GB for only $130 ($0.5078125/GB) people really don't have an excuse anymore.

* http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-...
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